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Fri 09/25/09 06:20 AM
Edited by crickstergo on Fri 09/25/09 06:21 AM
Elementary School Students Taught to Sing Praises of President Obama

Nearly 20 young children are captured in an online video as they sing songs that overflow with campaign slogans and praise for "Barack Hussein Obama," as they repeatedly chant the president's name and celebrate his accomplishments.

Children sing songs praising President Obama's "great accomplishments" in a video that was reportedly made in a New Jersey elementary school. (YouTube)

Some parents in a New Jersey school district are up in arms after a class of elementary school students was videotaped singing the praises of President Obama, an activity that has been criticized as "indoctrination."

The tension at B. Bernice Young Elementary School escalated to such a degree Thursday that the school was placed temporarily on lockdown after its principal received death threats over a YouTube video that showed nearly 20 children being taught songs lauding the president, though back-to-school night events continuing as planned Thursday night at the school.

Video of the students at the Burlington, N.J., school shows them singing songs seemingly overflowing with campaign slogans and praise for "Barack Hussein Obama," repeatedly chanting the president's name and celebrating his accomplishments, including his "great plans" to "make this country's economy No. 1 again."

One song that the children were taught quotes directly from the spiritual "Jesus Loves the Little Children," though Jesus' name is replaced with Obama's: "He said red, yellow, black or white/All are equal in his sight. Barack Hussein Obama."

The video has set off some families in Burlington, who said they were horrified that their children at the being "indoctrinated" to view the president like a cult figure.

"I'm stunned -- I can't believe it's our school," said Jim Pronchik, who told FOXNews.com his 8-year-old son Jimmy was one of the 18 students in the video. "We don't want to praise this guy like he's a god or an idol or a king or anything like that. That's the wrong message to be sending."

Pronchik said he and his wife were never informed about the lesson, which the superintendent of Burlington Township schools says was held in February as part of Black History Month "to honor the contributions of African Americans to our country."

But Andrea Ciemnolonski, the parent of another one of the students in the video, said the song was part of a second-grade project on a variety of topics related to the month of February, such as Groundhog Day, Valentine's Day and Presidents Day.

"They did songs about President Washington, Lincoln, and they did do one about President Obama," Ciemnolonski said. "My daughter was in the class that did the songs about Obama. It was black history month. ... It was something for the kids to celebrate."

Ciemnolonski said she "just can't look at it as indoctrination," though she added, "The comparisons made were a little exuberant."

Superintendent Christopher Manno said in a written statement Thursday that the taping itself was out of order, but failed to address whether the lesson was approved. "The recording and distribution of the class activity were unauthorized," he wrote in a note to parents and the media.

Other families arriving at Bernice Young Elementary to pick up their children said they were outraged at the songs, which also tout a fair-pay bill Obama signed in January: "He said we must be clear today/Equal work means equal pay."

"I felt this was reminiscent of 1930's Germany, and the indoctrination of children to worship their leader," said Robert Bowen, father of two children at Bernice Young Elementary.

"I thought that if this was a civics class in say high school or upper level middle school, in might be appropriate to discuss policies or politics, but as far as children in first grade, second grade -- those types of levels -- it's inappropriate to discuss how a president is changing the world after only six weeks in office."

Parents said the songs were performed in Elvira James' second grade class. James, who refused to comment to FOXNews.com, retired at the end of the previous school year on a full pension in New Jersey.

Bowen said he thought there should be consequences for having provided such a one-sided lesson to impressionable students there.

"It's something that there should be serious repercussions for ... the administration here, and I think the school board needs to be answerable to the parents of the community," said Bowen. School board members did not respond to requests for comment.

Though the school was not planning to address the tape during back-to-school-night events, many parents were heading in with with a lot of questions about the tape.

"This video is disturbing," said a grandparent named Sandy, who spoke on the condition that her last name not be included. "We don't teach politics in pre-school -- or kindergarten or first grade."

"This has no place in the classroom," said Sandy, added Sandy, who told FOXNews.com she has two grandchildren attending Bernice Young Elementary. "It may have been the opinion of one or two, and someone should pay the consequences for it."

The author of the songs is unknown, but a woman -- possibly a teacher -- can be heard in the beginning of the video correcting and helping a student who has forgotten the words. Another woman, the person holding the camera, cheers the students on: "All right," she says. "I like that."

"Alteredbeat," the YouTube user who posted the video on the Internet, told FOXNews.com that the video was first put online by Charisse Carney-Nunes, an activist and author of the children's book "I Am Barack Obama," which her Web site says "allows children to see themselves through the inspirational story of President Obama." Carney-Nunes has been promoting the book during visits to schools on the east coast.

A poster for the book can been seen near the stage of the auditorium in the video of Bernice Young Elementary, but it is unclear whether Carney-Nunes had visited the school or was present during the filming.

"Alteredbeat" told FOXNews.com that he reached out to Carney-Nunes, who insisted that the program had been filmed in June as part of a Father's Day tribute to President Obama. "The kids made up the songs on their own," she wrote, according to the YouTube user.

"Alteredbeat" originally posted the video Sept. 6, two days before Obama made an address to the nation's schoolchildren in which he praised the American education system as the best in the world and urged students to stay in school.

"At the end of the day, we can have the most dedicated teachers, the most supportive parents, and the best schools in the world," Obama said.

FOXNews.com's Cristina Corbin and FOX News' Michael Sorrentino contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/24/elementary-school-students-reportedly-taught-songs-praising-president-obama/?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r3:c0.181451:b27916268:z0

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Fri 09/25/09 06:52 AM
More School Indoctrination:

My child learned worse then that at school last week.

The religion teacher told the class that she didn't believe in dinosaurs. She said that God put their bones here to confuse us.

She also told the children that rocks aren't as old as scientists say they are. She said that God put them on the earth already looking that old.

She told them that stem cell research is when people kill babies for research. That wasn't even age appropriate!

Now...that's some scary stuff to me.

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Fri 09/25/09 06:53 AM

More School Indoctrination:

My child learned worse then that at school last week.

The religion teacher told the class that she didn't believe in dinosaurs. She said that God put their bones here to confuse us.

She also told the children that rocks aren't as old as scientists say they are. She said that God put them on the earth already looking that old.

She told them that stem cell research is when people kill babies for research. That wasn't even age appropriate!

Now...that's some scary stuff to me.


shocked shocked

Winx's photo
Fri 09/25/09 06:56 AM


More School Indoctrination:

My child learned worse then that at school last week.

The religion teacher told the class that she didn't believe in dinosaurs. She said that God put their bones here to confuse us.

She also told the children that rocks aren't as old as scientists say they are. She said that God put them on the earth already looking that old.

She told them that stem cell research is when people kill babies for research. That wasn't even age appropriate!

Now...that's some scary stuff to me.


shocked shocked


The principal is going to hear from me as soon as I get my voice back.:angry:

franshade's photo
Fri 09/25/09 07:00 AM



More School Indoctrination:

My child learned worse then that at school last week.

The religion teacher told the class that she didn't believe in dinosaurs. She said that God put their bones here to confuse us.

She also told the children that rocks aren't as old as scientists say they are. She said that God put them on the earth already looking that old.

She told them that stem cell research is when people kill babies for research. That wasn't even age appropriate!

Now...that's some scary stuff to me.


shocked shocked


The principal is going to hear from me as soon as I get my voice back.:angry:

Hell!!! I'll call him for you if you want... WTF!!!!! frustrated

Winx's photo
Fri 09/25/09 07:01 AM
But you might make him cry, Fran.laugh

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Fri 09/25/09 07:06 AM

More School Indoctrination:

My child learned worse then that at school last week.

The religion teacher told the class that she didn't believe in dinosaurs. She said that God put their bones here to confuse us.

She also told the children that rocks aren't as old as scientists say they are. She said that God put them on the earth already looking that old.

She told them that stem cell research is when people kill babies for research. That wasn't even age appropriate!

Now...that's some scary stuff to me.


well thats just stupid

everybody knows it was the dinosaurs that built stonehenge

makes you wonder where she went to school and got her teaching degree. Prolly from a online diploma course

Winx's photo
Fri 09/25/09 07:26 AM
laugh

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Fri 09/25/09 07:27 AM


More School Indoctrination:

My child learned worse then that at school last week.

The religion teacher told the class that she didn't believe in dinosaurs. She said that God put their bones here to confuse us.

She also told the children that rocks aren't as old as scientists say they are. She said that God put them on the earth already looking that old.

She told them that stem cell research is when people kill babies for research. That wasn't even age appropriate!

Now...that's some scary stuff to me.


well thats just stupid

everybody knows it was the dinosaurs that built stonehenge

makes you wonder where she went to school and got her teaching degree. Prolly from a online diploma course
laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
I guess this was a while back since Obama had only been in office 6 weeks. Still, why Obama? Says other presidents were in songs, too, but I wonder the full content OF THE WHOLE THING, not just the Obama part. How much detail and attention was given the other presidents and WHICH presidents were plucked for the attention? Does sound politically slanted, and like late news. And yeah, he's no god. Kind of creepy sounding, but since the whole kit and kaboodle isn't presented.... can't say for sure how I'd take it all. Scary what our teachers can sneak in for their own causes, too.

Winx's photo
Fri 09/25/09 07:30 AM
This is what all the stink is about?!

"But Andrea Ciemnolonski, the parent of another one of the students in the video, said the song was part of a second-grade project on a variety of topics related to the month of February, such as Groundhog Day, Valentine's Day and Presidents Day."

"They did songs about President Washington, Lincoln, and they did do one about President Obama," Ciemnolonski said. "My daughter was in the class that did the songs about Obama. It was black history month. ... It was something for the kids to celebrate."

Sheesh. Scary stuff.noway


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Fri 09/25/09 07:32 AM
Edited by Unknow on Fri 09/25/09 07:33 AM
AGAIN schools are a LOCAL issue governed by a elected LOCAL School board!!!!!

LEAVE MINE ALONE!!!!! I like mine!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Fri 09/25/09 07:38 AM
Silly teachers, didn't they know that singing songs that demean Obama work so much better these days.

Heaven forbid children get the idea that Obama see's people as equals. What a horrible thing to teach a child. Yupper, it's a sign of the end..

Anyone see the tv ad where very young school children are signing negatively about Obama's administration and him? Guess it's ok to trash him though.

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Fri 09/25/09 07:41 AM
the teacher was a friend and classmate of Obama's...a like minded thinker of course...Mao would be happy that's for sure...:smile:

Winx's photo
Fri 09/25/09 08:19 AM

the teacher was a friend and classmate of Obama's...a like minded thinker of course...Mao would be happy that's for sure...:smile:


Where does it say that about the teacher? The school was in New Jersey.

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Fri 09/25/09 09:50 AM
:smile: There are people putting creationism into schools.:smile: Isnt that indoctrination?:smile:

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Fri 09/25/09 09:56 AM
WARNING! YOUR CHILDREN MAY BE EDUCATED IN THIS SCHOOL. IF YOU DO NOT WISH YOUR CHILD TO BE EDUCATED, PLEASE MOVE TO THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND ISOLATE THEM FROM ANY SENSORY STIMULUS IMMEDIATELY.


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Fri 09/25/09 10:00 AM

WARNING! YOUR CHILDREN MAY BE EDUCATED IN THIS SCHOOL. IF YOU DO NOT WISH YOUR CHILD TO BE EDUCATED, PLEASE MOVE TO THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND ISOLATE THEM FROM ANY SENSORY STIMULUS IMMEDIATELY.


drinker laugh drinker

Winx's photo
Fri 09/25/09 10:00 AM

WARNING! YOUR CHILDREN MAY BE EDUCATED IN THIS SCHOOL. IF YOU DO NOT WISH YOUR CHILD TO BE EDUCATED, PLEASE MOVE TO THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND ISOLATE THEM FROM ANY SENSORY STIMULUS IMMEDIATELY.




drinker

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Fri 09/25/09 01:11 PM
Washington and Lincoln are dead. Obama is alive.

This is indoctrination in our schools at its worse.

Why not sing the traditional songs like My Country Tis of Thee or America the beautiful.

Maybe it's because these have the word God in it.

grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble grumble


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Fri 09/25/09 02:14 PM

Elementary School Students Taught to Sing Praises of President Obama

Nearly 20 young children are captured in an online video as they sing songs that overflow with campaign slogans and praise for "Barack Hussein Obama," as they repeatedly chant the president's name and celebrate his accomplishments.

Children sing songs praising President Obama's "great accomplishments" in a video that was reportedly made in a New Jersey elementary school. (YouTube)

Some parents in a New Jersey school district are up in arms after a class of elementary school students was videotaped singing the praises of President Obama, an activity that has been criticized as "indoctrination."

The tension at B. Bernice Young Elementary School escalated to such a degree Thursday that the school was placed temporarily on lockdown after its principal received death threats over a YouTube video that showed nearly 20 children being taught songs lauding the president, though back-to-school night events continuing as planned Thursday night at the school.

Video of the students at the Burlington, N.J., school shows them singing songs seemingly overflowing with campaign slogans and praise for "Barack Hussein Obama," repeatedly chanting the president's name and celebrating his accomplishments, including his "great plans" to "make this country's economy No. 1 again."

One song that the children were taught quotes directly from the spiritual "Jesus Loves the Little Children," though Jesus' name is replaced with Obama's: "He said red, yellow, black or white/All are equal in his sight. Barack Hussein Obama."

The video has set off some families in Burlington, who said they were horrified that their children at the being "indoctrinated" to view the president like a cult figure.

"I'm stunned -- I can't believe it's our school," said Jim Pronchik, who told FOXNews.com his 8-year-old son Jimmy was one of the 18 students in the video. "We don't want to praise this guy like he's a god or an idol or a king or anything like that. That's the wrong message to be sending."

Pronchik said he and his wife were never informed about the lesson, which the superintendent of Burlington Township schools says was held in February as part of Black History Month "to honor the contributions of African Americans to our country."

But Andrea Ciemnolonski, the parent of another one of the students in the video, said the song was part of a second-grade project on a variety of topics related to the month of February, such as Groundhog Day, Valentine's Day and Presidents Day.

"They did songs about President Washington, Lincoln, and they did do one about President Obama," Ciemnolonski said. "My daughter was in the class that did the songs about Obama. It was black history month. ... It was something for the kids to celebrate."

Ciemnolonski said she "just can't look at it as indoctrination," though she added, "The comparisons made were a little exuberant."

Superintendent Christopher Manno said in a written statement Thursday that the taping itself was out of order, but failed to address whether the lesson was approved. "The recording and distribution of the class activity were unauthorized," he wrote in a note to parents and the media.

Other families arriving at Bernice Young Elementary to pick up their children said they were outraged at the songs, which also tout a fair-pay bill Obama signed in January: "He said we must be clear today/Equal work means equal pay."

"I felt this was reminiscent of 1930's Germany, and the indoctrination of children to worship their leader," said Robert Bowen, father of two children at Bernice Young Elementary.

"I thought that if this was a civics class in say high school or upper level middle school, in might be appropriate to discuss policies or politics, but as far as children in first grade, second grade -- those types of levels -- it's inappropriate to discuss how a president is changing the world after only six weeks in office."

Parents said the songs were performed in Elvira James' second grade class. James, who refused to comment to FOXNews.com, retired at the end of the previous school year on a full pension in New Jersey.

Bowen said he thought there should be consequences for having provided such a one-sided lesson to impressionable students there.

"It's something that there should be serious repercussions for ... the administration here, and I think the school board needs to be answerable to the parents of the community," said Bowen. School board members did not respond to requests for comment.

Though the school was not planning to address the tape during back-to-school-night events, many parents were heading in with with a lot of questions about the tape.

"This video is disturbing," said a grandparent named Sandy, who spoke on the condition that her last name not be included. "We don't teach politics in pre-school -- or kindergarten or first grade."

"This has no place in the classroom," said Sandy, added Sandy, who told FOXNews.com she has two grandchildren attending Bernice Young Elementary. "It may have been the opinion of one or two, and someone should pay the consequences for it."

The author of the songs is unknown, but a woman -- possibly a teacher -- can be heard in the beginning of the video correcting and helping a student who has forgotten the words. Another woman, the person holding the camera, cheers the students on: "All right," she says. "I like that."

"Alteredbeat," the YouTube user who posted the video on the Internet, told FOXNews.com that the video was first put online by Charisse Carney-Nunes, an activist and author of the children's book "I Am Barack Obama," which her Web site says "allows children to see themselves through the inspirational story of President Obama." Carney-Nunes has been promoting the book during visits to schools on the east coast.

A poster for the book can been seen near the stage of the auditorium in the video of Bernice Young Elementary, but it is unclear whether Carney-Nunes had visited the school or was present during the filming.

"Alteredbeat" told FOXNews.com that he reached out to Carney-Nunes, who insisted that the program had been filmed in June as part of a Father's Day tribute to President Obama. "The kids made up the songs on their own," she wrote, according to the YouTube user.

"Alteredbeat" originally posted the video Sept. 6, two days before Obama made an address to the nation's schoolchildren in which he praised the American education system as the best in the world and urged students to stay in school.

"At the end of the day, we can have the most dedicated teachers, the most supportive parents, and the best schools in the world," Obama said.

FOXNews.com's Cristina Corbin and FOX News' Michael Sorrentino contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/24/elementary-school-students-reportedly-taught-songs-praising-president-obama/?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r3:c0.181451:b27916268:z0

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this could be the death of capitelism if it s not stopped quick .

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