Actually we are describing their repugnant ideology.

Fascism: Private ownership with government control

Describes the modern republican goals(non-conservative in conservative clothing), they want to regulate some utopia while allowing private ownership

Socialism/communism: Government ownership AND control.

Describes modern democrat/liberals goals. Obama has nationalized major industry and banks.

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I agree we should not call, say anti-0war protesters anti-american. Thats wrong. However, If you advocate ideals contrary to the constitution I think its fair to call someone anti-american. Certainly its an accurate description for some.

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True conservatives are as against the church and state violations as you are. Its a tool of division, keep you hating church people and keep them pissed about abortion. Then you dont notice both parties gang raping your liberties.

If you think I am exagerating listen to it from their own lips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niJAkR_6tKQ

Repugnant ideology I guess goes both ways. Or all ways.


Obama has not nationalized banks. That is just not true.

Damn.

I really hate the spin, the spin sucks.

Are you not doing the same basic thing in this post?

You are generalizing about republican conservatives, which is the essence of 'calling everyone who doesn't act or think like them liberals, socialists...".

Or maybe you were just joking - and following in Rush Limbaughs footsteps, and using humor as a means to escape responsibility for your words.

Yea, I am guilty of generalization there. You called it.

No excuses.

Brewer wrote:



I don't know which side is the 'true' side, but you are so right, Brewer. With the fundamentalists and the feminists hating each other, they are so much easier to distract and control.

Dragoness, I appreciate the integrity of your response.

Sorry to break it to you, but he has. Now they use funny word games, but the government is the major holder in a bunch of banks now and could own as many as 20 soon. As you will read below, this isnt some twisted libertarian extremist fantasy, it is the reality of our times. Do you know how much a trillion is? Nationalize or not, giving them a trillion dollars of the peoples money? WTF? You dont have a problem with that?


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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=anGxzRYhVF_Y

"U.S. regulators led by the Treasury Department announced today that the government stands ready to take bigger bank stakes in the form of shares that “would be converted only as needed over time.” To analysts including Paul Miller of Friedman, Billings, Ramsey Group Inc., nationalization of some of the nation’s largest lenders appears well under way. The government already holds $52 billion of preferred shares in Citigroup, five times the bank’s market value as of Feb. 20.

“We’re already in the nationalization phase,” Miller said today on Bloomberg Television. “We already own a chunk of Citigroup and Bank of America. The problem is that the government is dancing around this nationalization issue. They do not want to do it.”

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/23/AR2009022300958.html


"The Obama administration yesterday revamped the terms of its emergency aid to troubled financial firms, setting a course that could culminate with the government nationalizing some of the country's largest banks by taking a controlling ownership stake.

Administration officials said the change, which allows banks to repay the government with common stock rather than cash, is intended to give banks more capital to withstand a continued deterioration of the economy, and not to nationalize the banking system.

But in seeking to bolster investor confidence in troubled companies such as Citigroup, the government said it is willing to acquire large chunks of their shares"

Yes, the draconians have many tricks for distracting and controling us

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