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AP NewsBreak: Nuke agency says Iran can make bomb
VIENNA – Experts at the world's top atomic watchdog are in agreement that Tehran has the ability to make a nuclear bomb and is on the way to developing a missile system able to carry an atomic warhead, according to a secret report seen by The Associated Press. The document drafted by senior officials at the International Atomic Energy Agency is the clearest indication yet that the agency's leaders share Washington's views on Iran's weapon-making capabilities. It appears to be the so-called "secret annex" on Iran's nuclear program that Washington says is being withheld by the IAEA's chief. The document says Iran has "sufficient information" to build a bomb. It says Iran is likely to "overcome problems" on developing a delivery system. |
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gawd, I hope not
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Iraq was invaded for a whole lot less.
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maybe so..I don't think we should be there either.
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Edited by
Quietman_2009
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Thu 09/17/09 06:56 PM
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speaking academically, not to whether we should or not
but just to whether we could I think we could but it would take every thing we have. And it would require the help of the British and prolly French and Italian and Spanish. and of course Israel Syria would fight with Iran. And the Sudan and Somalia and Yemen. The Saudis might go either way. And Egypt might go either way. And Pakistan The Shia and the Sunni don't get along real well. Turkey would probably go with us but if they didnt it could get real ugly It would definitly be World War 3 the Muslim world against the Western World |
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speaking academically, not to whether we should or not but just to whether we could I think we could but it would take every thing we have. And it would require the help of the British and prolly French and Italian and Spanish. and of course Israel Syria would fight with Iran. And the Sudan and Somalia and Yemen. The Saudis might go either way. And Egypt might go either way. And Pakistan The Shia and the Sunni don't get along real well. Turkey would probably go with us but if they didnt it could get real ugly It would definitly be World War 3 the Muslim world against the Western World |
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Insane is what it would be. JMO
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Yep, insane indeed! Exactly why I don't want my boys registered with the selective service....
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but the scarier part is if Iran develops nuclear weapons they are almost surely to use em to attack Israel. Or give em to Hezbollah or Hamas
Tel Aviv gone in a second and then of course Israel would counter attack and Tehran would disappear and in the meantime what would Pakistan do with their nuclear weapons? would they attack India? or American bases? What would Russia do? |
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I don't think Russia would back us...I think the the whole mess would awaken the sleeping bear..
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Edited by
Quietman_2009
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Thu 09/17/09 07:21 PM
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Russia has oil and construction assets in Iran so they would prolly back them
and use the opportunity to grab Georgia and wipe out the Chechnyans China would prolly jump on the chance to eliminate the Uighers (muslim ethnic chinese) either way it would be nasty thats why we're trying to get them to stop with sanctions |
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I'm a peacemaker, I object to any war...maybe makes me a bleeding heart, but not stupid by any means... You are right . Wars are hell and any decent human should avoid them . Look how many millions of lives were destroyed by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan !. . |
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yes it was much better for the Iraqi's under Saddam
and for the Afghans under the Taliban |
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yes it was much better for the Iraqi's under Saddam and for the Afghans under the Taliban Ah yes. I never thought we should have gone to either country frankly, at least not the way we did, but there is that nagging truth that the more inhumanity, and suffering in the world the more reasons for attacks and wars. I still don't know that we accomplished saving people from their own people when it comes to Islam. lately I am not so sure we can save ourselves from OUR own people with all the anxiety and anger out there. |
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yes it was much better for the Iraqi's under Saddam and for the Afghans under the Taliban Ah yes. I never thought we should have gone to either country frankly, at least not the way we did, but there is that nagging truth that the more inhumanity, and suffering in the world the more reasons for attacks and wars. I still don't know that we accomplished saving people from their own people when it comes to Islam. lately I am not so sure we can save ourselves from OUR own people with all the anxiety and anger out there. the big line here is "the way we did." under current policy, iraq was inevitable if we were to ever be taken seriously. however, we needed to adjust domestic policy in order to prepare for it. as for the op. yes we can. should we? no. we simply cannot afford it. just because we can do something does not make it a good idea. we cannot afford the bill right now nor the manpower to do it successfully. |
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yes it was much better for the Iraqi's under Saddam and for the Afghans under the Taliban Ah yes. I never thought we should have gone to either country frankly, at least not the way we did, but there is that nagging truth that the more inhumanity, and suffering in the world the more reasons for attacks and wars. I still don't know that we accomplished saving people from their own people when it comes to Islam. lately I am not so sure we can save ourselves from OUR own people with all the anxiety and anger out there. the big line here is "the way we did." under current policy, iraq was inevitable if we were to ever be taken seriously. however, we needed to adjust domestic policy in order to prepare for it. as for the op. yes we can. should we? no. we simply cannot afford it. just because we can do something does not make it a good idea. we cannot afford the bill right now nor the manpower to do it successfully. If we can afford the wars were are in believe me Washington and the Military would find the money if they were so intent. However I don't see any way we could win unless we wiped out all countries that could retaliate at the very same time and damn quickly. The radical fundamentalists around the world and in our own country might love to see it happen to usher in the end times, but it sure would cause even more war all over the world considering the associations Iran has economically and otherwise. I could be wrong but I shutter to think of it. |
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wow, Tolstoy had it right. The psychology of the nation-state has really messed up people's morality and perspective!
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yes it was much better for the Iraqi's under Saddam and for the Afghans under the Taliban Ah yes. I never thought we should have gone to either country frankly, at least not the way we did, but there is that nagging truth that the more inhumanity, and suffering in the world the more reasons for attacks and wars. I still don't know that we accomplished saving people from their own people when it comes to Islam. lately I am not so sure we can save ourselves from OUR own people with all the anxiety and anger out there. the big line here is "the way we did." under current policy, iraq was inevitable if we were to ever be taken seriously. however, we needed to adjust domestic policy in order to prepare for it. as for the op. yes we can. should we? no. we simply cannot afford it. just because we can do something does not make it a good idea. we cannot afford the bill right now nor the manpower to do it successfully. If we can afford the wars were are in believe me Washington and the Military would find the money if they were so intent. However I don't see any way we could win unless we wiped out all countries that could retaliate at the very same time and damn quickly. The radical fundamentalists around the world and in our own country might love to see it happen to usher in the end times, but it sure would cause even more war all over the world considering the associations Iran has economically and otherwise. I could be wrong but I shutter to think of it. You've hit on the problem-we CAN'T afford war. The FED prints the money and sends the debt to future generations or Congress borrows from foreigners. There literally is NO wealth in the private sector-just debt. |
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Why would anyone want to invade Iran?
What a silly thought. such an invasion would trigger the use of the stupid weapons... Duh. If they have 'leaked' this much the truth is far worse. They do try to keep us somewhat in the dark on these things. |
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yes it was much better for the Iraqi's under Saddam and for the Afghans under the Taliban Ah yes. I never thought we should have gone to either country frankly, at least not the way we did, but there is that nagging truth that the more inhumanity, and suffering in the world the more reasons for attacks and wars. I still don't know that we accomplished saving people from their own people when it comes to Islam. lately I am not so sure we can save ourselves from OUR own people with all the anxiety and anger out there. the big line here is "the way we did." under current policy, iraq was inevitable if we were to ever be taken seriously. however, we needed to adjust domestic policy in order to prepare for it. as for the op. yes we can. should we? no. we simply cannot afford it. just because we can do something does not make it a good idea. we cannot afford the bill right now nor the manpower to do it successfully. If we can afford the wars were are in believe me Washington and the Military would find the money if they were so intent. However I don't see any way we could win unless we wiped out all countries that could retaliate at the very same time and damn quickly. The radical fundamentalists around the world and in our own country might love to see it happen to usher in the end times, but it sure would cause even more war all over the world considering the associations Iran has economically and otherwise. I could be wrong but I shutter to think of it. You've hit on the problem-we CAN'T afford war. The FED prints the money and sends the debt to future generations or Congress borrows from foreigners. There literally is NO wealth in the private sector-just debt. quickie correction: i believe you meant public sector. the private sector holds material items that hold value so separate from the worthless paper, they still have wealth in greater proportion to debt in many cases. the government, however, does not. the truth is, affording something does not mean pay on credit. if someone says afford a house, what they really mean is affording the mortgage payment. same case here. we cannot afford a war as we've been more into the red every year for over a century. at this point, it's "the additional debt will not destroy us." however, it is ever growing to the point where it will. |
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