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So, tell me. How many of our babies are expendable? Many will die, don'cha know. And for what good reason? for your FREEDOM to sit here and post in the comfort of your own home and not worry about it coming here! oh and i'm one of those 'babies' you are are talking about :D Except fighting over there doesn't stop it from coming here that is a propaganda lie. Other than that thank you for volunteering to keep this country safe. It's not all propaganda....some yes...not all. You have no agenda? ![]() I support our troops too and have family members where were in the service of our country, but they stood for the rigths to all opinions even those they didn't agree with. Coming from someone who doesn't even know the difference between socialism, communism and fascism. We never declared war on Iraq or Afghanistan. http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=107_cong_public_laws&docid=f:publ243.107 http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_the_Iraq_War_considered_a_declared_war |
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Al Queada and Bin Laden officially and publicly declared war against the United States it doesn't matter if we want to be in a war. We are whether we like it or not the only alternative is to turn belly up and let em destroy us which is what some people here advocate ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- A never-before-seen al Qaeda video obtained by CNN shows Osama bin Laden declaring war against the United States and the West. The tape of a May 26, 1998, news conference is among 64 obtained in Afghanistan from a source, who said the tapes were found in an Afghan house where bin Laden had stayed. Experts say the collection of tapes sheds new light on al Qaeda's training, capabilities and mindset. "By God's grace," bin Laden says on the tape, "we have formed with many other Islamic groups and organizations in the Islamic world a front called the International Islamic Front to do jihad against the crusaders and Jews." "And by God's grace," he says at another point in the tape, "the men ... are going to have a successful result in killing Americans and getting rid of them." CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen, who interviewed bin Laden a year earlier, believes the tape depicts a key moment for al Qaeda. "They're going public," Bergen said. "They're saying, 'We're having this war against the United States.'" Accompanying bin Laden on the video are Ayman Al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's right-hand man and inspirational ally, and military adviser Mohammad Atef, who died last November in coalition bombing. Although a select group of Pakistani journalists and one Chinese writer were invited to witness as al Qaeda launched its jihad on the West, the event never got wide exposure because no independent videotaping was allowed. Ismail Khan was one of the journalists there that day. "We were given a few instructions, you know, on how to photograph and only take a picture of Osama and the two leaders who were going to sit close by him. Nobody else," Khan said. Rohan Gunaratna, an international terrorism expert and author of "Inside Al Qaeda," suggests security was a key reason for keeping the video under wraps. "Making that tape public would compromise the security of al Qaeda and of Osama bin Laden," he said. "They did not release that tape." Among those who appear with bin Laden are the two sons of Sheik Abdul Rahman, the spiritual leader of those convicted of blowing up the World Trade Center in 1993. He is now in a U.S. prison for planning other attacks on New York. Bergen says the significance of the sons' presence at the press conference "can't be underestimated." They distribute what they claim is the will of their father, which calls for attacks on Americans. "The purported will states, 'Attack them on the sea. Attack them on the land. Attack them everywhere. Attack their economy,'" Bergen said. The connection to Rahman, Bergen said, is key for bin Laden, who uses the sheik's spiritual guidance as a religious fig leaf from behind which bin Laden broadens his terror groups' appeal to radicals. With hindsight, the important moments on the video are easy to pick out, including bin Laden hinting at an attack on U.S. targets. Within 11 weeks of the declaration, al Qaeda attacked U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, in bombings that killed 224 people, including 12 Americans. And perhaps almost as chilling, because it didn't happen, al-Zawahiri appears to justify an attack on the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, Egypt. Him declaring war on the whole world means absolutely nothing and still does not justify us going to Iraq where he wasn't at. Us being over there does not stop us from being attacked here and it is not going to resolve their hatred of us one iota. So we either stay there for the rest of human time here on this planet or we leave them to resolve their issues. |
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EXCLUSIVE: US Launches Military Strike in Somalia Against al Qaeda Target http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-forces-somalia-kill-saleh-ali-nabhan-commando/story?id=8569619&nwltr=politics_featureMore Al Quieida is the snow-job and Somali pirates are the reason. I seriously wonder why the US is sitting idle while N Korea is so merrily developing its nuclear arsenal. The US clobbered Iraq for way much less. May it be that the US is a big suck, and it is scared to stand up to N Korea? After all, the US army had its pants kicked by another South-East Asian small nation. The US knows that history repeats itself, so it is very busy repeating its own mistakes all over the place. What a big... |
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Experts say the collection of tapes sheds new light on al Qaeda's training, capabilities and mindset. Holy crap. Then with all this NEW information coming light to, what was the REAL reason for torturing thousands of souls in Quantananimo Bay, each for months and years? Could it be that Americans are now not only trigger-happy but also satanically sadistic? I would not be surprised. ======== Get me out of this politics forum. My blood boils over when I see the new vicious crap Americans are unleashing on the people of the world. |
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According to very intelligent sources and many books ; all tapes aired in the name of Osama Bin Laden and his deputy Ayman Zawahiri are fake and made by the CIA for war propaganda and to justify the wars .
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According to very intelligent sources and many books ; all tapes aired in the name of Osama Bin Laden and his deputy Ayman Zawahiri are fake and made by the CIA for war propaganda and to justify the wars . Granted, this Osama dude could be a fictional character. Bin Laden is a real name and family. The Bush Empire had construction contracts with a Bin Laden brother. This one died in an ultra-light plane crash in San Antonio. |
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According to very intelligent sources and many books ; all tapes aired in the name of Osama Bin Laden and his deputy Ayman Zawahiri are fake and made by the CIA for war propaganda and to justify the wars . Granted, this Osama dude could be a fictional character. Bin Laden is a real name and family. The Bush Empire had construction contracts with a Bin Laden brother. This one died in an ultra-light plane crash in San Antonio. A fictional character? Wiki: Osama bin Laden was born in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. In a 1998 interview, he gave his birth date as 10 March 1957. His father Muhammed Awad bin Laden was a wealthy businessman with close ties to the Saudi royal family. Osama bin Laden was born the only son of Muhammed bin Laden's tenth wife, Hamida al-Attas. Osama's parents divorced soon after he was born; Osama's mother then married Muhammad al-Attas. The couple had four children, and Osama lived in the new household with three stepbrothers and one stepsister. Bin Laden was raised as a devout Wahhabi Muslim. From 1968 to 1976 he attended the "élite" secular Al-Thager Model School. Bin Laden studied economics and business administration at King Abdulaziz University. Some reports suggest bin Laden earned a degree in civil engineering in 1979, or a degree in public administration in 1981. Other sources describe him as having left university during his third year, never completing a college degree, though "hard working." At university, bin Laden's main interest was religion, where he was involved in both "interpreting the Quran and jihad" and charitable work. He also writes poetry. In 1974, at the age of 17, bin Laden married his first wife Najwa Ghanem at Latakia. According to CNN national security correspondent David Ensore, as of 2002 bin Laden had married four women and fathered roughly 25 or 26 children. Other sources report that he has fathered anywhere from 12 to 24 children. |
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