yea,but from then i can learn not much,they have more trouble to find a right girl,they do same mistakes again and again.All they say that its life and,they all players,they play with girl and live,just like in the movies.I think is wrong to do that.

Then you do not have friends in successful relationships.

that why i try to look for advice in here.

Um, women do not want to be treated like queens, or princesses, or any other fairy tale. We want to be respected and adored but on an equal level.

You generalize too much. I notice all your writing lumps ALL women into the same categories.

Why don't you stop giving money and give yourself? If you don't have anything to offer BUT money then maybe you should develop your personality first before dating.

I recommend staying in college so you can educate yourself but you are young, and most of your learning will come from life as you grow up. You have very immature ideas about women. Did you have male role models that taught you these falsehoods? They did not help you.

I wish you well.

thanks for advice.

Im not saying that all woman like that,i talk about woman that i have been meet.And about treating like a queen im saying that i like to adore them and respect them as she is my lady,i not trying to show them that im rich or something,no im not like that.I just wanna treat her right and respect her as a woman.

Ok. Since in your original post in this thread you stated that you are from Belarus I have to ask this question.

In Belarus, is what you do with women ( the buying stuff, treating them " like a queen " etc ) considered the normal thing??

What you may be running into is just a difference in culture between there and here.

Most women, and any woman worth being with, is going to be looking for someone who treats them with respect rather than someone who tries to buy them with gifts.

Of course, take them out on dates, treat them well, all that good stuff. But unless it's her birthday or another " gift giving " holiday, keep the times you buy stuff for her spread out. Don't do it all the time.

It won't take you long to figure out whether she's in it for the " stuff " or in it for YOU.

If it consider my country where im from, most men treat woman nice, buy gifts, and flowers to show how important the woman is in his life.but the rest is just need a house wife and thats about it.My point is that it dosnt matter where you from ,if you love that person and that person love you,they should respect each other and treat each other how they think its right,not to play games.I say in my topic that woman i had been date use me like im some kind of sponsor ,not appreciate me.I never say to them like "baby if you need money,just take how much you want" no im not like that.I just wanna know , is there somewhere ladys that dont want all that fancy stuff just for be with the person that they gonna fell appreciated and loved and happy.Happynes,appreciation and love not in money but in the person who will adore you,appreciate you and love you.Or maybe im wrong about that.

I totally agree.

However. Being here, as opposed to there, you are dealing with a slightly ( putting it mildly ) different culture.

Many, many people here are strictly materialistic. Men and women both. It's difficult to find someone who will truly appreciate you for being who you are and not for what you can give them.

Just a thought here....perhaps when you meet someone that you really like....hold off on the gift giving thing for a little while. It'll be easier for you to find someone who wants to be with you for who you are.

Why don't you ladies just chill, and why do you have to attack every guy that states they are nice, there seems to be a lot of man haters on the forums lately, really are your live so screwed up that you have to come on here and just attack guys randomly can we please stop with all these personal attacks against guys you don't even know.

You know, maybe you right about that.

I didn't see any particular attacks. They were simply giving advice that he had asked for.

he didn't come in with the normal " whiny " nice guy type of thread. He really wanted some advice and the ladies here were kind enough to provide it. It may have seemed somewhat harsh, but it really wasn't.

Some people need a kick in the butt to open up their eyes.

welcome to the real world buddy!!!

im sorry but here in this topic nobody attacks no one,we just talking about woman that want to be with guy just for money.

One of the major problems I have been seeing from the ladies in the forums, is that they seem to think they speak for every woman, truth is, no 2 woman or alike, some woman like having money spent on them and being treated like a queen, some like the nice boys, some like the bad boys everyone including men and woman both are different so please don't assume hat you speak for everyone.

No one attacked him. He asked for feedback.

Just because the advice wasn't covered in flowers and kisses doesn't mean it was an attack.

Society is too sensitive, and children that are coddled grow up to be whiney adults. Life is not always peaches and cream -- and a little constructive criticism is not a bad thing ESPECIALLY when someone asks for the feedback.

you think that is right to do that.You probable see old couples together sitting in a park.What you think what holds them together?

Since you aren't using the quote feature, I am unsure of whom you are referring but no one here pretends to speak for anyone else.

It's called a public forum; a public forum filled with opinions. Most people are smart enough to sift out what applies to them and what doesn't.

I think about that all the time. The conclusion I come to is that their relationship started in a simple era -- in a time when instant gratification wasn’t common and hard work trumped everything.

In modern day there is no commitment, loyalty or integrity among most people. Parenting changed a long time ago. Most parents wanted to be 'friends' with their kids which caused a decay in values and obligations. Discipline is still unheard of in some families. The outcome of this pathology is we now have adults who were the product of the aforementioned parenting.

When a major city uses a slogan like, "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas", then we are all in trouble!

But if you come to them and ask the question " What still hold you together ? " they probably answer that we still love each other and cherish each other since they start dating where there wore young couple,or they just my say that they are to old to date another people and they just stick together.