Yup, terrorisim.

There is more to it than we will ever know that is for sure. What can be done about it? Probably nothing. People will continue to dig. People are still digging over JFK and any of the other thousands of conspiracies they have out there. But nothing ever gets done about it. If conspiracies did not get so damn farfetched though maybe they would get some real attention, ya know?

yeah I just went and found the mechanics of how the terrorism brought it down

seems like Structure Magazine would be a pretty reliable source for explaining how a buiding fell down

I agree. One affects the other, if it werent for the other two having problems, then 7 wouldnt have gone down right? That is what I read in those links right?

I feel no matter what it was.. conspiracy is left field. GRASSY NOLE!! GRASSY NOLE!!!

Sorry, but I, for one second, don't buy that. Not for all the federal reserve notes in existance.

Building 7 didn't get hit by a plane, nor did it sustain heavy damage from the Towers collapse or from fire.

So lets be a little more specific shall we. What caused building 7's structure to fail so extensively that it fell, at free fall speed, into it's own footprint?

I got an idea, why don't we ask former New York city OEM Emergency coordinator Barry Jennings (RIP) just what trapped him in building 7 for several hours?

part 1 of Barry Jennings account

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQY-ksiuwKU

part 2 of Mr. Jennings story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxUj6UgPODo

Just finished reading the structure magazine pdf... one column fails and building 7, built with repeated redundancies, falls free fall speed, into it's own footprint?

Did physics simply take a vacation from Ground zero on 9/11/01?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5rRZdiu1UE



and..





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzaFGMQRBfs

sabotage? The Beastie boys?

sure why not, life needs a soundtrack and "sabotage" seems like it'd fit.

Did you bother to watch the interview of Barry Jennings?

Will anyone who trumpets the fable known as the 9/11 comission report take a minute and see exactly what guys like Jennings and William Rodriguez have had to say?

I mean honestly, these guys were there, in the buildings...

I suppose the 40 or so years the terrorist have been trying to destroy Isreal and the United states has nothing to do with 9-11?Maybe you forgot the bombing of the World trade center and the attack on the USS Cole.Was the United states behind those also?I remember when this war started it was all about the oil right?

From what I gather from my fellow wacked out consipericy theorists...Our government somehow smuggled thousands of tons of explosives and thousands of miles of wires into both our World trade centers.Then over many years using hundreds of people,gained access into the ceiling,floors,walls,and main support beams both inside and outside the building and started planting explosives.All the while not a single worker,electrictian,mechanic,janitor,building inspector,police officer and security guard not only not noticed these people working everyday but also not noticed the hundreds of bombs hanging all over the buildings.There was also not a single frame of film showing these people coming into the building everyday.Then these same people convinced documented terrorist to come over hear and help the United states in their cause.In helping the United states they will be dying for a Christian nation.Not only did they convince the terrorist the convinced Bin laden a leader of a terrorist origination who singe the 70's wanted to destroy Isreal and the United states.They convinced him to take the blame so both him and his country could be destroyed.

During the attack instead of blowing up the buildings after the planes hit them they decided to wait a hour or two to blow them up despited knowing the massive fire would destroy their planted bombs,wires,and set ups.They did such a good cover up of hiding evidence after the buildings when down that not a single wire,bomb,explosive,blasting cap,or other device was ever found despite thousands of police officers,fireman,contractors,city workers and others sifting the rubble pound by pound at a large warehouse.There was also not a single person who busted,arrested,or tried in court despite every resource in the United states government looking for them.

They also convinced both Iraq and Afganistan to take the blame so we can start a war that would cost hundreds of billions of dollars so we could get a profit from the oil companies.Who even if they gave up all their profits for the whole year would take 20 or so years to get our money back.


I will stick will my own theory.A lot of people in the middle east hate Isreal and the United states and want us destroyed.Some of these people have large bank accounts and lead radical Muslims who want to die martyrs in destroying the United states.Add a few years of planning,hijack and plane and fly it into some buildings and you have a totally same and logical reason on who was behind 9-11 and why.

The '93 bombing of the WTC and the Cole were done by who again, the same group that are known CIA assets.

Bin Laden has been after the U.S. since the 70's is that why we supported, trained and funded him and his crew during the afghan war with the Soviets?

Is that why Sibel Edmonds, former translator for the FBI, broke her gag order and revealed that Bin Laden remained a paid for asset all the way up to 9/11?

As for the "sneaking around" planting bombs (Thermate), I refer you to this:


9/11 Security
Courtesy of Marvin Bush

Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served.

According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."

The company lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," in projects that "often require state-of-the-art security solutions for classified or high-risk government sites."

Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.

The Dulles Internation contract is another matter. Dulles is regarded as "absolutely a sensitive airport," according to security consultant Wayne Black, head of a Florida-based security firm, due to its location, size, and the number of international carriers it serves.

Black has not heard of Stratesec, but responds that for one company to handle security for both airports and airlines is somewhat unusual. It is also delicate for a security firm serving international facilities to be so interlinked with a foreign-owned company: "Somebody knew somebody," he suggested, or the contract would have been more closely scrutinized.

As Black points out, "when you [a company] have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything." And if another company is linked with the security company, then "What's on your computer is on their computer." [American Reporter]

A heightened WTC security alert was lifted on 9/6/2001...

The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [September 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed. [NY Newsday]

...there was a power down in WTC 2 the weekend before 9/11...

On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower." [WingTV]

...Bush's cousin had a fortunate change of venue for a September 11 business conference...

President Bush's cousin should have been in the World Trade Centre when it was attacked. Jim Pierce, managing director of AON Corporations, had arranged a business conference on the 105th floor of the South Tower where its New York offices were based. But his group was too large so they decided to move across the street to the Millennium Hotel. [Annova]

...and it just so happens that Marvin was in New York on 9/11.

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Gosh, so one of the most obvious targets for the scary boogeyman, one which he seems to have a fix for, which had been hit by bombs before... and no bomb sniffing dogs and a power down of security equipment?
You go ahead and believe that these guys, some of which aren't even dead, flew planes into buildings. 19 guys, taking orders from some freddy krueger-esque figure in a cave, defeated, all on their own, our multibillion dollar air defense system.

They couldn't remove the evidence of thermate in the rubble, even though they did there very best to have it placed in the dump and into potholes before investigators could have a go at it.

Iraq, btw, had nothing to do with 9/11, Afghanistan was not about oil, but about poppy and having a platform for expanding occupation in the middle east. Is it any coincidence that heroin use has almost tripled in this country?

Never mind the money, it's all about power.

As far as no one arrested, thats bull, there were quite a few people arrested, Israeli's celebrating while taping the planes flying into buildings, people being arrested on the G. Washington bridge, with a van full of explosives. Tell me why those folks were released?

Why were all these investigations stopped whenever someone like this guy or John O'neil got close to Bin Laden?

Informant says FBI threw away chance to catch alleged 9/11 plotter


By Raw Story

Published: September 10, 2009



A Lebanon-native who pretended to be an Islamic extremist at the behest of American authorities claims that the FBI took him off the trail of alleged 9/11 plotter Mohammed Atta right as a window of opportunity opened to catch him.

Were it not for the FBI’s action, the informant says he is “one million percent positive” the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks could have been prevented.

The claims are part of an ABC News report, set to air on Thursday’s editions of World News Tonight and Nightline.

An advance story published on ABC’s Web site notes:

[36-year-old Elie] Assaad, who posed as ‘Mohammed’ – a personal representative of Osama bin Laden, says he’s a “million percent positive” the 9/11 attacks could have been stopped if the FBI had gone after Atta and Shukrujumah. But because Atta and his men were suspicious of the FBI undercover operative, and secretive, Assaad says his FBI agent handlers sent him after the easier target – two wannabe terrorists whose cases were easy to crack and who were both eventually convicted and sent to prison.

“I was right, I was a hundred percent right,” Assaad says of his suspicions. He says that when he learned that Atta was one of the 9/11 hijackers, when the FBI asked if he could identify any of the attackers, he was “very upset, angry” and cried.
The network also notes criticism of Assaad by defense attorneys for men who they say he entrapped.

But the informant dismisses the knocks to his credibility. “When you are working undercover, your job is to lie,” he told ABC.

This video is from ABC’s Nightline, broadcast Sept. 10, 2009.

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/09/10/informant-says-fbi-threw-away-chance-to-catch-alleged-911-plotter/

You coincidence theorists aren't helping matters! I hope I learn the real story by the time I die!

Bush knew - what he knew. People make all kinds of charges with out a spice of facts. There are two things about 9/11.
The architectures and structural engenders designed a structure that would stand for four hours, not fifteen minute after a plain crashed into it but the new York City cancel changed the spices.

After Bush was sworn in the Democrats in the senate did every thing they could to keep Bush and his administration from getting
Straitened out and start looking for things like 9/11.

The architectures and structural engenders designed a structure that would stand for four hours, not fifteen minute after a plain crashed into it but the new York City cancel changed the spices.

Ummm... thats not true.

WTC Construction Manager: Towers Were Designed to Take Numerous Plane Crashes.

Frank A. DeMartini, Manager, WTC Construction and Project Management, discusses the fact that the WTC towers were designed to take multiple hits from airliners and not collapse, comparing it to poking a pencil through fly netting, DeMartini was adament that the towers would not collapse. DeMartini died in the towers on 9/11, this interview clip was taken from video shot in January 2001.

This clip is taken from Anthony Hilder's documentary, 9/11: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/141104designedtotake.htm


So now the Dem's are totally responsible for 9/11, because they didn't let Bush get untracked? Need I remind you that prior to 9/11 Bush had spent something like a 1/3 of his time on vacation?

Now, I know that the left had their folks who knew something was up, like Biden meeting with the head of the Pakistani ISI, who was known to have ordered the wiring of 100,000$ to Atta.

However, 9/11 isn't a left or a right issue, because that profile is a manipulated scam. It's a Freedom vs. Tyranny issue, and those who want their Global elitist system are the ones to look at when placing blame for 9/11, that includes Cheney, Bush, Rumesfeld, but it also includes Biden, Brzezinski, Clinton, Emmanuel.

Warmachine,

Like I said the towers were designed to withstand airplane (s) crashes. So why did I see, on TV, one floor collapsing another, another an so on. They collaped because the steel super structure
Got hot and gave way. Why did (IT) give way? The installation that was suppose to be put around (IT) and incased in cement was replaced by order of the New York City Council.

You should have been around long enough to know no president goes on vacation. All the worlds troubles follows hem. Its still a fack that every name Bush sent the senate they rejected it. No other president in our history went through that.

Now you can show me some thought and question my statements or do what liberals always do, make fun because they don’t have any facks to back up what they say.

So, you're saying it's the Democrats' fault for not giving Bush a chance to look for things like this to happen?

singmesweet,


What I’m saying is there two things about 9/11 that bother me and I’ve stated them both. When these bleeding heart liberals make while clams against Bush. I ask about the installation on the steel super structure and what a democrat senate did leading up to 9/11.

Now is Winx happens to read this please except my apologies about the (MR.)

I see nothing wrong with a just investigation to explore all things and bring the truth to the masses .

double post

47 core columns all miraculously gave way at exactly the same time and 90 some floors fell perfectly onto one another offering up no resistance to the floor above it. How's that possible, because of some missing cement. By that thought then, as your misplaced cement, then the buildings top floor started to fail and the core columns started to fail, then the towers should have toppled to one side or another as the debris began to pile up. This didn't happen, instead there was a total and absolute critical failure of all the columns at exactly the same time, allowing the towers and building 7 to fall, at free fall speed, into their respective footprints.

Got hot and gave way? Mularky. The fire inside the towers did not get hot enough to melt that steel. In fact, buildings before and after have burned white hot for days and not collapsed, only the WTC buildings?

Bush was doing business while on the ole ponderosa? So why did he conviently forget to mention that he had recieved the memo titled "Bin Laden determined to strike inside america"?

Oh, and what kind of insinuation are you making with your liberal comment? I'd be wildly interested in seeing just why you chose to go there with me, of all people.