Topic: Okay you cannot tell me....
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Fri 09/04/09 09:38 PM


Do some protest too much? The concept that racists are initiating much of the propaganda to "hate" Obama for "legitimate" reasons is not very far fetched at all.

The point of this post is noone protested any other president speaking to their children in this country before now and all of them have done it. Even talking politics with the students was considered a great thing by Reagan and Bush Sr. There were democratic presidents who did it, there were liberal presidents who did it, noone protested then but now it is an issue?

It is obvious what is happening here and it is terrible that the schools are even going along with the racist parents.






what he has to say is probably...anti-American Van Jones...Rev Wright...type of stuff...the fact that we can't see what he's going to say sends out red flags as in Communism...lol



Not even and the fact that someone would even think that shows how well the racists are working their message in this country.

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Fri 09/04/09 09:38 PM

Do some protest too much? The concept that racists are initiating much of the propaganda to "hate" Obama for "legitimate" reasons is not very far fetched at all.

The point of this post is noone protested any other president speaking to their children in this country before now and all of them have done it. Even talking politics with the students was considered a great thing by Reagan and Bush Sr. There were democratic presidents who did it, there were liberal presidents who did it, noone protested then but now it is an issue?

It is obvious what is happening here and it is terrible that the schools are even going along with the racist parents.



If they are going along it doesn't nessessarily mean they are going along because of race. It simply means that those that hate this president for whatever reasons don't care why others hate him, because it just makes the numbers they want larger. The more the merrier so to speak. The more that hate him for whatever reason, the more they hope that something will happen to get this president out, or make his stay so unbearable he can't stay in.

So in the end it doesn't matter how many hate him for his color or how many hate him for other reasons, they just want the body's to prove he shouldn't be there.

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Fri 09/04/09 09:41 PM
it gets old with the race card being thrown around (and it does a lot) or blaming a religion. not everyone is the same

The sad thing is there is no race card, it is racism, plain and simploe and the racists created the race card ideal to dismiss the actions they participate in so they can continue to be racist.

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Fri 09/04/09 09:41 PM








There was nothing racial about the reasons why parents don't want it to happen. Yes other presidents have talked to the kids. But it wasn't made political.

No other president wanted the kids to wright a paper on how they can help president Obama.

After a hugh uprising about that it was changed to what they can do to make themselves better. Or something along those lines.

I have no problem with him talking to the kids and urging them to do well in school, just leave the polotics out of it.


Racists don't admit it is racial, they create other excuses but none of them hold water. He is not doing anything that has not been done before.
frustrated frustrated frustrated


It has to be racial, there was never any hoopla before now, now we have a non white president.


The only thing I see here that is racist is your own statement. You have no idea why the parents protested and immediately assume it is because he his black... prejudice based on race = racism.

BTW, you making a comment on others' ignorance like that is like the pot calling the kettle black.


I'm not going to comment on the particular reply but...

The problem is that there is still so much racism and people that will absolutely not accept this president for his race, that it's hard not to notice, especially if you live in a state this is actually quite racist.

what I have notice since Obama won is that people are not being polite about what they feel about this president where they might have been before he won because they never expected he would.




It's about class...not color... his policies are why his approvals are at historic lows...there's an old joke...how do you know when you've won an arguement with a Liberal ?...they call you a racist...


I guess that doesn't apply here since I am not a liberal. And besides that of course that type of analogy would be made so people would not look at the possible racism going on.


huh ?...you're not a Liberal ?...laugh ...not that there's anything wrong with that...

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Fri 09/04/09 09:44 PM

I know a lot of rednecks that aren't racist. But I know of some blacks that the only reason they voted for BHO was because of his race. they had no clue about his stances...only his skin color. racism exists in all races but that doesn't mean everyone is racist either just because they don't like the president. there are ugly things said about gender, race, religion, etc. it happens and will always happen. people have the right to their opinions whether I agree with them or not. I don't like people disrespecting or generalizing though...because you can't say EVERYONE because you haven't met everyone or all or none. Just like always and never aren't true because they haven't happened yet.

I've seen many of the same people yelling racism but have no problem trashing someone for their religious beliefs. to me it's all the same


More black people are Democrats then they are Republican. That had something to do with them voting for Obama.

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Fri 09/04/09 09:44 PM
It's just how far the past 8 years of politics has taken the people away. Muslims and Arabs are all terrorists, "your with us or against us", Add the 911 attack , then this war with Iraq and Afghanistan and top it off with this economic crisis , then elect a president who was claimed to have no experience plus he is mult racial and comes from a once-muslim family with a Hussein middle name and you just can't make a more chaotic scenario. Hell, anyone looks all that and surprised there isn't a civil war raging yet, thank God.

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Fri 09/04/09 09:45 PM



because someone doesn't like this president then the only conclusion can possibly be is they are racist??? seriously??? the race card has been thrown around so much I almost want to duck and cover.

I know a lot of schools aren't allowing it because of political differences (just like with past presidents) and they let the parents decide if they want the kids to watch it. the only time I have heard it being played in school around here is when the teacher records it for a government class in high school.

I saw on the news today (local news) about the tea parties and they interviewed a black man who was against BHO...is he racist too? Good thing Hilary Clinton wasn't elected because anyone that doesn't like her would be accused of being sexists as well


I personally just think we are pretending that much of this is NOT about Race when it is. Many are using the excuse that they just don't like his politics so that they aren't called racist, but that said, my concern is that people don't seem to respect the voters choice. Because some folks didn't get the pres they wanted, that means those that did choose this president shouldn't have him as president? Getting tired now so I hope this makes sense.

If Hilary would have won, we would not have near this level and variety of complaints as we have with Obama.

I have also noticed that the Blacks that do not like Obama are mostly religious conservatives, anyone else notice that? No they are not racist, but blacks don't have to be racist to have a problem with Obama, besides there is enough white against black racism they don't need to join the fray. Blacks that do not like Obama mostly are religious conservatives or lean right and or dislike liberals for the same reasons other groups do.

That is I am seeing so far...


I don't doubt with some are racists...but to classify everyone as racist because they really don't like him for his politics??? it's insane to me. I don't like him for his politics...nothing more. I don't know the man personally and have nothing personal against him. I don't like most politicians for that matter regardless of race or gender.

maybe were you are blacks that are against BHO happened to be religious. not where I am.

it gets old with the race card being thrown around (and it does a lot) or blaming a religion. not everyone is the same


How do you know what blacks in your area feel about Obama, you know how many blacks in your area? To be fare I am talking about Blacks in the media news, pundits etc. I don't know any blacks in my area because few live here. I can't say that I dislike most politicians because I dont' know most politicians. Of the ones I do follow, I like many of them, they just don't get much air time. And the ones I like that do get air time, they are hated by the other side for all the same reasons.

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Fri 09/04/09 09:47 PM


I know a lot of rednecks that aren't racist. But I know of some blacks that the only reason they voted for BHO was because of his race. they had no clue about his stances...only his skin color. racism exists in all races but that doesn't mean everyone is racist either just because they don't like the president. there are ugly things said about gender, race, religion, etc. it happens and will always happen. people have the right to their opinions whether I agree with them or not. I don't like people disrespecting or generalizing though...because you can't say EVERYONE because you haven't met everyone or all or none. Just like always and never aren't true because they haven't happened yet.

I've seen many of the same people yelling racism but have no problem trashing someone for their religious beliefs. to me it's all the same


More black people are Democrats then they are Republican. That had something to do with them voting for Obama.


are you referring to the people I'm talking about??? if so...wrong. they don't no a lot about politics. and i have been in debates with them many times at tommy's...not because o who they wanted to vote for...but the reasons behind it. they knew nothing about his stance. I'm not speaking for all blacks by any means. the people I was talking about are people I know and hang out with at tommy's.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 09/04/09 09:47 PM


Do some protest too much? The concept that racists are initiating much of the propaganda to "hate" Obama for "legitimate" reasons is not very far fetched at all.

The point of this post is noone protested any other president speaking to their children in this country before now and all of them have done it. Even talking politics with the students was considered a great thing by Reagan and Bush Sr. There were democratic presidents who did it, there were liberal presidents who did it, noone protested then but now it is an issue?

It is obvious what is happening here and it is terrible that the schools are even going along with the racist parents.



If they are going along it doesn't nessessarily mean they are going along because of race. It simply means that those that hate this president for whatever reasons don't care why others hate him, because it just makes the numbers they want larger. The more the merrier so to speak. The more that hate him for whatever reason, the more they hope that something will happen to get this president out, or make his stay so unbearable he can't stay in.

So in the end it doesn't matter how many hate him for his color or how many hate him for other reasons, they just want the body's to prove he shouldn't be there.


I have seen those who are going along with the flow not realizing that the racists in this country initiated the hatred using "legitimate" excuses. Once I prove to them what they believe is not true and that the racists started it based on lies, they really start to look at it more closely. I have converted a few...lol Obama haters just by showing them the truth to all this garbage out there.

My point here was the size of the protest just shows how many racists we actually still have in this country. When they interview the parents the reasons they give for not wanting their kids to see the president are based on the propaganda started by the racists that is not true or factual.

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Fri 09/04/09 09:50 PM


I know a lot of rednecks that aren't racist. But I know of some blacks that the only reason they voted for BHO was because of his race. they had no clue about his stances...only his skin color. racism exists in all races but that doesn't mean everyone is racist either just because they don't like the president. there are ugly things said about gender, race, religion, etc. it happens and will always happen. people have the right to their opinions whether I agree with them or not. I don't like people disrespecting or generalizing though...because you can't say EVERYONE because you haven't met everyone or all or none. Just like always and never aren't true because they haven't happened yet.

I've seen many of the same people yelling racism but have no problem trashing someone for their religious beliefs. to me it's all the same


More black people are Democrats then they are Republican. That had something to do with them voting for Obama.


really ?...I would never have guessed that...lol...although...if you presented blacks with what Obama stands for...they would be disgusted...most blacks are Conservative...

Winx's photo
Fri 09/04/09 09:52 PM

maybe it's where I live. the racists people that I hear from around hear don't hide the fact that they are racist because they see nothing wrong with it (which goes for all races)


I dated a man that didn't show any signs of being racist. Then...after the election, he tells me that he's a Democrat but he voted for McCain because he didn't want any black man in the White House. I was stunned. My Dad's best friend is a Democrat that did the same thing. We didn't see that coming.

I know people that hide the fact that they're racist.

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Fri 09/04/09 09:54 PM
Obama is not a president! He is the 2nd DICTATOR of the united states of america. You want to talk about ignorance in this country most people don't know that there are no more presidents. Think its ********? Read the patriot act. He has the power to take total control over everything without the say from congress or any other body

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Fri 09/04/09 09:54 PM




because someone doesn't like this president then the only conclusion can possibly be is they are racist??? seriously??? the race card has been thrown around so much I almost want to duck and cover.

I know a lot of schools aren't allowing it because of political differences (just like with past presidents) and they let the parents decide if they want the kids to watch it. the only time I have heard it being played in school around here is when the teacher records it for a government class in high school.

I saw on the news today (local news) about the tea parties and they interviewed a black man who was against BHO...is he racist too? Good thing Hilary Clinton wasn't elected because anyone that doesn't like her would be accused of being sexists as well


I personally just think we are pretending that much of this is NOT about Race when it is. Many are using the excuse that they just don't like his politics so that they aren't called racist, but that said, my concern is that people don't seem to respect the voters choice. Because some folks didn't get the pres they wanted, that means those that did choose this president shouldn't have him as president? Getting tired now so I hope this makes sense.

If Hilary would have won, we would not have near this level and variety of complaints as we have with Obama.

I have also noticed that the Blacks that do not like Obama are mostly religious conservatives, anyone else notice that? No they are not racist, but blacks don't have to be racist to have a problem with Obama, besides there is enough white against black racism they don't need to join the fray. Blacks that do not like Obama mostly are religious conservatives or lean right and or dislike liberals for the same reasons other groups do.

That is I am seeing so far...


I don't doubt with some are racists...but to classify everyone as racist because they really don't like him for his politics??? it's insane to me. I don't like him for his politics...nothing more. I don't know the man personally and have nothing personal against him. I don't like most politicians for that matter regardless of race or gender.

maybe were you are blacks that are against BHO happened to be religious. not where I am.

it gets old with the race card being thrown around (and it does a lot) or blaming a religion. not everyone is the same


How do you know what blacks in your area feel about Obama, you know how many blacks in your area? To be fare I am talking about Blacks in the media news, pundits etc. I don't know any blacks in my area because few live here. I can't say that I dislike most politicians because I dont' know most politicians. Of the ones I do follow, I like many of them, they just don't get much air time. And the ones I like that do get air time, they are hated by the other side for all the same reasons.


yes...I know a lot of people in my area. did I say all?? no!!! did I even speak about the country in general???? no!!!

Giocamo's photo
Fri 09/04/09 09:54 PM


maybe it's where I live. the racists people that I hear from around hear don't hide the fact that they are racist because they see nothing wrong with it (which goes for all races)


I dated a man that didn't show any signs of being racist. Then...after the election, he tells me that he's a Democrat but he voted for McCain because he didn't want any black man in the White House. I was stunned. My Dad's best friend is a Democrat that did the same thing. We didn't see that coming.

I know people that hide the fact that they're racist.


I'm more of an Archie Bunker bigot...:smile:

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 09/04/09 09:56 PM


maybe it's where I live. the racists people that I hear from around hear don't hide the fact that they are racist because they see nothing wrong with it (which goes for all races)


I dated a man that didn't show any signs of being racist. Then...after the election, he tells me that he's a Democrat but he voted for McCain because he didn't want any black man in the White House. I was stunned. My Dad's best friend is a Democrat that did the same thing. We didn't see that coming.

I know people that hide the fact that they're racist.


there are people like that too. never said there weren't.

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Fri 09/04/09 09:56 PM



Do some protest too much? The concept that racists are initiating much of the propaganda to "hate" Obama for "legitimate" reasons is not very far fetched at all.

The point of this post is noone protested any other president speaking to their children in this country before now and all of them have done it. Even talking politics with the students was considered a great thing by Reagan and Bush Sr. There were democratic presidents who did it, there were liberal presidents who did it, noone protested then but now it is an issue?

It is obvious what is happening here and it is terrible that the schools are even going along with the racist parents.



If they are going along it doesn't nessessarily mean they are going along because of race. It simply means that those that hate this president for whatever reasons don't care why others hate him, because it just makes the numbers they want larger. The more the merrier so to speak. The more that hate him for whatever reason, the more they hope that something will happen to get this president out, or make his stay so unbearable he can't stay in.

So in the end it doesn't matter how many hate him for his color or how many hate him for other reasons, they just want the body's to prove he shouldn't be there.


I have seen those who are going along with the flow not realizing that the racists in this country initiated the hatred using "legitimate" excuses. Once I prove to them what they believe is not true and that the racists started it based on lies, they really start to look at it more closely. I have converted a few...lol Obama haters just by showing them the truth to all this garbage out there.

My point here was the size of the protest just shows how many racists we actually still have in this country. When they interview the parents the reasons they give for not wanting their kids to see the president are based on the propaganda started by the racists that is not true or factual.


While I think that is partially true and I can certainly vouche for that here especially since it was not until Obama won that my white freinds started doing the 'N' for president right in front of me.

But I think the racists and those that dislike him because they fear his is a socialist sound so much alike at times you can't tell them apart because both groups believe the same things, only one might not be racist..

In this town I can safely say it's Race first and socialist second for the majority.

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Fri 09/04/09 09:57 PM



maybe it's where I live. the racists people that I hear from around hear don't hide the fact that they are racist because they see nothing wrong with it (which goes for all races)


I dated a man that didn't show any signs of being racist. Then...after the election, he tells me that he's a Democrat but he voted for McCain because he didn't want any black man in the White House. I was stunned. My Dad's best friend is a Democrat that did the same thing. We didn't see that coming.

I know people that hide the fact that they're racist.


I'm more of an Archie Bunker bigot...:smile:


He definitely was one.

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Fri 09/04/09 10:01 PM
“I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uhmmm, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and uh, I believe that our, I, education like such as uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uhhh, our education over here in the US should help the US, uh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us.

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Fri 09/04/09 10:04 PM



maybe it's where I live. the racists people that I hear from around hear don't hide the fact that they are racist because they see nothing wrong with it (which goes for all races)


I dated a man that didn't show any signs of being racist. Then...after the election, he tells me that he's a Democrat but he voted for McCain because he didn't want any black man in the White House. I was stunned. My Dad's best friend is a Democrat that did the same thing. We didn't see that coming.

I know people that hide the fact that they're racist.


I'm more of an Archie Bunker bigot...:smile:


I don't think so, Archie Bunder was amusing! And we knew he wasn't what the character was.

Winx's photo
Fri 09/04/09 10:04 PM



I know a lot of rednecks that aren't racist. But I know of some blacks that the only reason they voted for BHO was because of his race. they had no clue about his stances...only his skin color. racism exists in all races but that doesn't mean everyone is racist either just because they don't like the president. there are ugly things said about gender, race, religion, etc. it happens and will always happen. people have the right to their opinions whether I agree with them or not. I don't like people disrespecting or generalizing though...because you can't say EVERYONE because you haven't met everyone or all or none. Just like always and never aren't true because they haven't happened yet.

I've seen many of the same people yelling racism but have no problem trashing someone for their religious beliefs. to me it's all the same


More black people are Democrats then they are Republican. That had something to do with them voting for Obama.


really ?...I would never have guessed that...lol...although...if you presented blacks with what Obama stands for...they would be disgusted...most blacks are Conservative...


And how is it that you know that most blacks are conservative?

http://racism-politics.suite101.com/article.cfm/african_american_voting_patterns

African American Voting Patterns

Recent voting demographics for African Americans suggest an overwhelming propensity to cast ballots in favor of Democratic candidates in presidential elections. Since 1964 this tendency has gained momentum and as the 2008 race comes closer, perhaps a larger number of African American voters will cast Democratic ballots than ever before.