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Edited by
cabot
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should we spend money on treating cancer victims who smoke? As long as the Government taxes tobacco..yes. Do we treat liver patients that drink? Do we treat any drug abuser..you bet. The only difference is tobacco is legal and profited by the Government..Look at alcohol ads on TV. The Government makes billions off of cigarettes and alcohol. Should we treat skateboarders that break an ankle or a skydiver that jumps out of a plane, or a person that does not wear a seat belt? just asking. |
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So lonestar, your profile says you smoke "occasionally". IF you were to get lung cancer, would you feel you should be treated? i smoke alot, and no, i wouldnt expect tax payers to pay for treatment, not when i know the consocuenses i know thats spelt wrong but i dont care i have views that are very different from most peoples, but this isnt a thread for attacking each other. do you not have the maturity to express your veiws in an adult, debate style manner thats not aimed at auburn |
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Shouldn't we try to help everyone!
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Well, you might change your mind when you hear that diagnosis. My husband died of lung cancer at the age of 37 and he smoked since he was 16. We had Blue Cross and most was paid for. Didn't really matter in the end. Only bought us 10 months. When you get stage 4 non small cell lung cancer it's usually just over. HE believed he'd be one of those fighters that won the battle. It is a horrifically tough battle.
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should we spend money on treating cancer victims who smoke? As long as the Government taxes tobacco..yes. Do we treat liver patients that drink? Do we treat any drug abuser..you bet. The only difference is tobacco is legal and profited by the Government..Look at alcohol ads on TV. The Government makes billions off of cigarettes and alcohol. so are you saying the line is to difficult to draw |
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Well, you might change your mind when you hear that diagnosis. My husband died of lung cancer at the age of 37 and he smoked since he was 16. We had Blue Cross and most was paid for. Didn't really matter in the end. Only bought us 10 months. When you get stage 4 non small cell lung cancer it's usually just over. HE believed he'd be one of those fighters that won the battle. It is a horrifically tough battle. sorry to hear that ruby.. 
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should we spend money on treating cancer victims who smoke? As long as the Government taxes tobacco..yes. Do we treat liver patients that drink? Do we treat any drug abuser..you bet. The only difference is tobacco is legal and profited by the Government..Look at alcohol ads on TV. The Government makes billions off of cigarettes and alcohol. so are you saying the line is to difficult to draw the line is based on money. Prohibition did not last. Reason..money. Look at the pharmecueticals...Viagra...and all the heart pills and restless leg syndrome pills. They are legal drug pushers. Cigarettes are the least of our worry, wait till the pill poppers have side effects down the road. Prozac and all the rest. Diet pills..should we treat breast implant people or tattoo people when it is proven it is dangerous to their health? |
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Edited by
daytime
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Thu 09/03/09 09:12 PM
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should we spend money on treating cancer victims who smoke? It is too difficult, should we treat car accident victims that drive too fast or are intoxicated, should be treat people with AIDS because they were not responsible with sex, should we treat people with addictions to drugs?? |
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Thanks Ruby
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Well, you might change your mind when you hear that diagnosis. My husband died of lung cancer at the age of 37 and he smoked since he was 16. We had Blue Cross and most was paid for. Didn't really matter in the end. Only bought us 10 months. When you get stage 4 non small cell lung cancer it's usually just over. HE believed he'd be one of those fighters that won the battle. It is a horrifically tough battle. and you are the type of person i dont want to offend with this topic, but to me it is true that if we save every person who is unfortunate enough to become ill by nature, and we actualy defy nature by cureing all diseases, then we as a race will over populate the planet as we breed alot by natural make up, and if we stop natures way of keeping numbers down, then we are going to destroy ourselves if rabbits are left to breed, then they must be kulled, or they eat all the food and completly die out |
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that's like playing god..we treat you ,, we don't treat you .. that to have power over somebody to live or die.. all people have to have their fighting chance no matter how slim as long as there is a chance..and 0 chance is a different matter altogether..
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Edited by
Winx
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Thu 09/03/09 09:08 PM
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should we spend money on treating cancer victims who smoke? Yes. Should you spend money on surgery for carotid arteries? Of course. Why would we let people die a hard death when they can be helped? Also, their families don't want them to die either. My father has severe COPD and emphysema from smoking. He hasn't smoked in 13 years. I want him to live as long as he can. |
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But don't you see? We don't and can't save every person. Millions die of cancer every year. Millions more of heart disease. The world, planet, God, karma what ever you want to call it, keeps it all even. I never worry that that will happen.
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Cancer cells proliferate on their own.. alcholism is a disease... yes.. we can modify our lifestyle to decrease our risks but.. life can change in an absolute instant... judging people will get you nowhere. |
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Well, you might change your mind when you hear that diagnosis. My husband died of lung cancer at the age of 37 and he smoked since he was 16. We had Blue Cross and most was paid for. Didn't really matter in the end. Only bought us 10 months. When you get stage 4 non small cell lung cancer it's usually just over. HE believed he'd be one of those fighters that won the battle. It is a horrifically tough battle. and you are the type of person i dont want to offend with this topic, but to me it is true that if we save every person who is unfortunate enough to become ill by nature, and we actualy defy nature by cureing all diseases, then we as a race will over populate the planet as we breed alot by natural make up, and if we stop natures way of keeping numbers down, then we are going to destroy ourselves if rabbits are left to breed, then they must be kulled, or they eat all the food and completly die out that makes no sense.. lots of minor things can become fatal if untreated .. latest one swine flu. with your annology we shouldn't be using medicine at all.. just let everybody die that is unlucky enough to become ill.. |
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the argument is if you choose to partake in something proven to cause a disease, how can you expect to be given free treatment. i dont know if its paid for by the suffarer in the states but here, its paid for by tax money tax money was also used for the £10 million anti smokeing advertisement campaign if you think its a stupid question Griffin, then thats your opinion seems to be the opinion of everyone but you... Help those that need help, heal those that you can heal, love those that have none... simple answer..now if you had asked something like: Do we help those that harm others on purpose... I say no... |
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No, I actually, see his point.
 ME of all people. But...he's saying if we do something that we know directly contributes or causes it........etc etc |
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Hmm...I had pizza this week. That's high fat. Does that mean that they shouldn't help me when I have a heart attack? It was my choice to eat that yummy pizza.
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should we spend money on treating cancer victims who smoke? Yes. Should you spend money on surgery for carotid arteries? Of course. Why should we let people die when the they can be helped? Also, their families don't want them to die either. My father has severe COPD and emphysema from smoking. He hasn't smoked in 13 years. I want him to live as long as he can. and that is the answer, we are govened by our morality i myself could not turn anyone down who needed help and i have in fact performed cpr on a homeless person i found in the street who suffered a heart attack. unfortunatly he died, but i could not not try because of moral belife that i can help this person so i must it was only a question for debate, but i do love the lack of inteligent answers offered up, thanks |
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There were intelligent answers, there isn't just one answer nor is the only intelligent answer the one you choose... The "mature" debate you asked everyone else if they could have kind of went out the window with your parting response...
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