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By Dave Lindorff
8-24-9 You see, here's the thing. When you hear about the sick, twisted things that America's torturers have been doing, courtesy of President George W. Bush and Vice President Darth Cheney, you have to remember that the US military and the CIA were not really all that reliable when it came to picking up the real terrorists. In fact, their batting average was pretty lousy. According to even the Pentagon's own reckoning, for example, probably 85% of the captives being held at Guantanamo over the past eight years were not terrorists at all, and a fair number--probably the majority--weren't even fighting anyone when they were captured. I'm sure that the averages at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan, or at the secret prison in Iraq are no better. The military was offering bounties in Iraq and Afghanistan for alleged terrorists, you see, and probably still is, but in both of those lawless, tribal countries, many people have used the offer to settle old feuds, turning in people they wanted to punish or dispose of, and many others just turned in random people to get the reward money. Remember this when you hear about torture tactics that we are learning were used by our side--things that make waterboarding sound like a walk in the park. We're now getting confirmation of things that we journalists were hearing rumors of earlier: faked executions using blanks, faked executions in neighboring rooms, followed by threats of the same to a person who had just heard the screams and a shot in the cell next to him, threats with an electric drill, and now perhaps the worst yet--the threat to kill a captive's children. And of course there is the already disclosed case of a captive who had his genitals cut with a razor, and generous use of tasers in places on the body designed to cause maximum pain. That, and of course there are a lot raped captives (including young boys), and a lot of bodies yet to be dug up of captives who were simply killed during torture.... For the rest of this story, please go to: http://www.thiscantbehappening.net |
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By Dave Lindorff 8-24-9 You see, here's the thing. When you hear about the sick, twisted things that America's torturers have been doing, courtesy of President George W. Bush and Vice President Darth Cheney, you have to remember that the US military and the CIA were not really all that reliable when it came to picking up the real terrorists. In fact, their batting average was pretty lousy. According to even the Pentagon's own reckoning, for example, probably 85% of the captives being held at Guantanamo over the past eight years were not terrorists at all, and a fair number--probably the majority--weren't even fighting anyone when they were captured. I'm sure that the averages at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan, or at the secret prison in Iraq are no better. The military was offering bounties in Iraq and Afghanistan for alleged terrorists, you see, and probably still is, but in both of those lawless, tribal countries, many people have used the offer to settle old feuds, turning in people they wanted to punish or dispose of, and many others just turned in random people to get the reward money. Remember this when you hear about torture tactics that we are learning were used by our side--things that make waterboarding sound like a walk in the park. We're now getting confirmation of things that we journalists were hearing rumors of earlier: faked executions using blanks, faked executions in neighboring rooms, followed by threats of the same to a person who had just heard the screams and a shot in the cell next to him, threats with an electric drill, and now perhaps the worst yet--the threat to kill a captive's children. And of course there is the already disclosed case of a captive who had his genitals cut with a razor, and generous use of tasers in places on the body designed to cause maximum pain. That, and of course there are a lot raped captives (including young boys), and a lot of bodies yet to be dug up of captives who were simply killed during torture.... For the rest of this story, please go to: http://www.thiscantbehappening.net 
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Who's to say interrogation of prisoners has stopped?
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I choose....."Or What"
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Power corrupts people .
The G.W. Bush Adminstration was all lies, manipulation, deceits and propaganda . The problem is why and why the public fell for all this crap ?. |
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Edited by
tohyup
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Tue 08/25/09 04:03 PM
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When people like G.W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld , Paul wolfowitz, the neo cons and the rest of the gang represents America we all say : God protect America from THEM !!!!.
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there are a lot raped captives (including young boys) 
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Hey I got an idea. We should let terrorists go and then prosecute those that interrogated them. What a bunch of lies you are spreading. You are so full of hate just like your father Obama. Socialist,evil,tyrranical. We are at war with people who want us all dead. Left or Right they dont care just dead. They only used enhanced interrogation on terrorists who had info. When they were being questioned and things got hot and heavy they would ask for a prayer break five times a day and it was granted them. You act like you are so high and mighty. Your mentality puts me and my family in danger. For that you are a bad person. I hope you can change your ways. Continue to question the government no matter who the president he is a servant of the people not the ruler. Please do not continue down this dangerous path.
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Hey I got an idea. We should let terrorists go and then prosecute those that interrogated them. What a bunch of lies you are spreading. You are so full of hate just like your father Obama. Socialist,evil,tyrranical. We are at war with people who want us all dead. Left or Right they dont care just dead. They only used enhanced interrogation on terrorists who had info. When they were being questioned and things got hot and heavy they would ask for a prayer break five times a day and it was granted them. You act like you are so high and mighty. Your mentality puts me and my family in danger. For that you are a bad person. I hope you can change your ways. Continue to question the government no matter who the president he is a servant of the people not the ruler. Please do not continue down this dangerous path.
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Hey I got an idea. We should let terrorists go and then prosecute those that interrogated them. What a bunch of lies you are spreading. You are so full of hate just like your father Obama. Socialist,evil,tyrranical. We are at war with people who want us all dead. Left or Right they dont care just dead. They only used enhanced interrogation on terrorists who had info. When they were being questioned and things got hot and heavy they would ask for a prayer break five times a day and it was granted them. You act like you are so high and mighty. Your mentality puts me and my family in danger. For that you are a bad person. I hope you can change your ways. Continue to question the government no matter who the president he is a servant of the people not the ruler. Please do not continue down this dangerous path. Excuse me but where the heck have you been the last 8 years? ''Continue to question the government no matter who the president he is a servant of the people not the ruler.'' Maybe you should have followed your own advice years ago. |
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Hey I got an idea. We should let terrorists go and then prosecute those that interrogated them. What a bunch of lies you are spreading. You are so full of hate just like your father Obama. Socialist,evil,tyrranical. We are at war with people who want us all dead. Left or Right they dont care just dead. They only used enhanced interrogation on terrorists who had info. When they were being questioned and things got hot and heavy they would ask for a prayer break five times a day and it was granted them. You act like you are so high and mighty. Your mentality puts me and my family in danger. For that you are a bad person. I hope you can change your ways. Continue to question the government no matter who the president he is a servant of the people not the ruler. Please do not continue down this dangerous path. Excuse me but where the heck have you been the last 8 years? ''Continue to question the government no matter who the president he is a servant of the people not the ruler.'' Maybe you should have followed your own advice years ago. 
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boo is a devil woman, boo is a devil woman
neener neener neener |
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boo is a devil woman, boo is a devil woman neener neener neener |
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Hey I got an idea. We should let terrorists go and then prosecute those that interrogated them. What a bunch of lies you are spreading. You are so full of hate just like your father Obama. Socialist,evil,tyrranical. We are at war with people who want us all dead. Left or Right they dont care just dead. They only used enhanced interrogation on terrorists who had info. When they were being questioned and things got hot and heavy they would ask for a prayer break five times a day and it was granted them. You act like you are so high and mighty. Your mentality puts me and my family in danger. For that you are a bad person. I hope you can change your ways. Continue to question the government no matter who the president he is a servant of the people not the ruler. Please do not continue down this dangerous path. i don't know what you're so worried about...they're all inside jobs anyway, besides, when you're times up, it's up. i'm the only real demon here. i'm 663 years old, and will be 666 in 2012.....what a birthday that will be   
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Hey I got an idea. We should let terrorists go and then prosecute those that interrogated them. What a bunch of lies you are spreading. You are so full of hate just like your father Obama. Socialist,evil,tyrranical. We are at war with people who want us all dead. Left or Right they dont care just dead. They only used enhanced interrogation on terrorists who had info. When they were being questioned and things got hot and heavy they would ask for a prayer break five times a day and it was granted them. You act like you are so high and mighty. Your mentality puts me and my family in danger. For that you are a bad person. I hope you can change your ways. Continue to question the government no matter who the president he is a servant of the people not the ruler. Please do not continue down this dangerous path. Excuse me but where the heck have you been the last 8 years? ''Continue to question the government no matter who the president he is a servant of the people not the ruler.'' Maybe you should have followed your own advice years ago. Werd. Bush was no better than Obama. he just stole liberties from a different jar. All in all, they're all politicians and none of them are any different. It's all the same personal agenda and lies. If they did wrong, they need to be prosecuted. Yes, the Geneva conventions regarding torture and the like are not applicable, but I feel that if they did something wrong, they should be tried, if for nothing else, waging warfare dressed as civilians (correct me if this is not applicable but I think I remember reading this is considered a war crime.) |
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Hey I got an idea. We should let terrorists go and then prosecute those that interrogated them. What a bunch of lies you are spreading. You are so full of hate just like your father Obama. Socialist,evil,tyrranical. We are at war with people who want us all dead. Left or Right they dont care just dead. They only used enhanced interrogation on terrorists who had info. When they were being questioned and things got hot and heavy they would ask for a prayer break five times a day and it was granted them. You act like you are so high and mighty. Your mentality puts me and my family in danger. For that you are a bad person. I hope you can change your ways. Continue to question the government no matter who the president he is a servant of the people not the ruler. Please do not continue down this dangerous path. Excuse me but where the heck have you been the last 8 years? ''Continue to question the government no matter who the president he is a servant of the people not the ruler.'' Maybe you should have followed your own advice years ago. Devil Woman.. Now that's a first..  Though I think if you can tell us what we should and shouldn't do, my suggestion that you follow you own advise isn't too out of order. |
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85% of the terrorists at Guantanamo aren't terrorists?
Where did these people come from? Did the CIA walk the streets of Cairo, Amman, Islamabad and arrest random guys selling shoes? "According to even the Pentagon's own reckoning, for example, probably 85% of the captives being held at Guantanamo over the past eight years were not terrorists at all, and a fair number--probably the majority--weren't even fighting anyone when they were captured." The Pentagon's own reckoning? Where is the actual report? Not necessary? With no actual documentation, shall I assume this is someone's far fetched opinion? |
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FWIW, to answer the OP question: yes, this is a sick country. It won't get better till we excise the thing causing the sickness: government.
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If The CIA was/is torturing and it's protecting my a$$,I have no problem with it. be seeing you
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Torture is never needed. Anyone who sales it that way is just sick.
I was reading about such sickos this morning. http://www.truthout.org/082409R?n |
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