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Torture is never needed. Anyone who sales it that way is just sick. I was reading about such sickos this morning. http://www.truthout.org/082409R?n tell that to the 3000 families that were slaughtered on 9/11...the USA is NOT the enemy...regardless of what Obama thinks... 
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Wed 08/26/09 11:12 AM
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there are a lot raped captives (including young boys) ^^Is anybody here okay with pedophilia?^^
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ummm perhaps the pedophiles are...idk
there are a lot raped captives (including young boys) ^^Is anybody here okay with pedophilia?^^ |
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ummm perhaps the pedophiles are...idk there are a lot raped captives (including young boys) ^^Is anybody here okay with pedophilia?^^ Yes, and it makes me wonder about the people who defend this stuff
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there are a lot raped captives (including young boys)  I DON,T BELIEVE THIS . WHEN YOU MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THIS YOU SHOULD PRODUCE PROOF AT THE TIME . |
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there are a lot raped captives (including young boys) I DON,T BELIEVE THIS . WHEN YOU MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THIS YOU SHOULD PRODUCE PROOF AT THE TIME . http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2004/07/15/hersh/index.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/may/22/iraq.usa1 http://web.archive.org/web/20060427131713/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/05/09/wtort09.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/05/09/ixnewstop.html “Some of the worst things that happened you don’t know about, okay?” said Hersh." |
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By Dave Lindorff 8-24-9 You see, here's the thing. When you hear about the sick, twisted things that America's torturers have been doing, courtesy of President George W. Bush and Vice President Darth Cheney, you have to remember that the US military and the CIA were not really all that reliable when it came to picking up the real terrorists. In fact, their batting average was pretty lousy. According to even the Pentagon's own reckoning, for example, probably 85% of the captives being held at Guantanamo over the past eight years were not terrorists at all, and a fair number--probably the majority--weren't even fighting anyone when they were captured. I'm sure that the averages at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan, or at the secret prison in Iraq are no better. The military was offering bounties in Iraq and Afghanistan for alleged terrorists, you see, and probably still is, but in both of those lawless, tribal countries, many people have used the offer to settle old feuds, turning in people they wanted to punish or dispose of, and many others just turned in random people to get the reward money. Remember this when you hear about torture tactics that we are learning were used by our side--things that make waterboarding sound like a walk in the park. We're now getting confirmation of things that we journalists were hearing rumors of earlier: faked executions using blanks, faked executions in neighboring rooms, followed by threats of the same to a person who had just heard the screams and a shot in the cell next to him, threats with an electric drill, and now perhaps the worst yet--the threat to kill a captive's children. And of course there is the already disclosed case of a captive who had his genitals cut with a razor, and generous use of tasers in places on the body designed to cause maximum pain. That, and of course there are a lot raped captives (including young boys), and a lot of bodies yet to be dug up of captives who were simply killed during torture.... For the rest of this story, please go to: http://www.thiscantbehappening.net This article is pure crap from a website probably being funded by Rosie,the ACLU,and micheal moore.The people that were captured and thrown into Guantanamo were caught at the end of a AK-47 shooting and killing our soldiers.If you would do some research you would find that the people that have been captured and set free from Guantanamo were almost always found again either dead or captured planting roadside bombs,or once again trying to kill our soldiers.I am not sure what kind of people you think are in Guantanamo but if you don't think they would jump at the chance to kill as many Americans as possible by any means possible you are living in a fantasy world.Both Bush and Obama tried to close Guantanamo but nobody will take these prisoners because they are so dangerous. I have a solution to the Guantanmo problem.Lets the guards out and leave the prisoners inside.Then send a airstrike using no less than 20 cruise missles.Guantanmo will be gone,the terrorist can go up in a ball of flame and become hero's.Then we don't have to hear the whining and complaining from the left on how these poor terrorist are peacefull,live and let live,non threatning,people who are just misunderstood and pose no threat to both the United states or the world. |
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By Dave Lindorff 8-24-9 You see, here's the thing. When you hear about the sick, twisted things that America's torturers have been doing, courtesy of President George W. Bush and Vice President Darth Cheney, you have to remember that the US military and the CIA were not really all that reliable when it came to picking up the real terrorists. In fact, their batting average was pretty lousy. According to even the Pentagon's own reckoning, for example, probably 85% of the captives being held at Guantanamo over the past eight years were not terrorists at all, and a fair number--probably the majority--weren't even fighting anyone when they were captured. I'm sure that the averages at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan, or at the secret prison in Iraq are no better. The military was offering bounties in Iraq and Afghanistan for alleged terrorists, you see, and probably still is, but in both of those lawless, tribal countries, many people have used the offer to settle old feuds, turning in people they wanted to punish or dispose of, and many others just turned in random people to get the reward money. Remember this when you hear about torture tactics that we are learning were used by our side--things that make waterboarding sound like a walk in the park. We're now getting confirmation of things that we journalists were hearing rumors of earlier: faked executions using blanks, faked executions in neighboring rooms, followed by threats of the same to a person who had just heard the screams and a shot in the cell next to him, threats with an electric drill, and now perhaps the worst yet--the threat to kill a captive's children. And of course there is the already disclosed case of a captive who had his genitals cut with a razor, and generous use of tasers in places on the body designed to cause maximum pain. That, and of course there are a lot raped captives (including young boys), and a lot of bodies yet to be dug up of captives who were simply killed during torture.... For the rest of this story, please go to: http://www.thiscantbehappening.net This article is pure crap from a website probably being funded by Rosie,the ACLU,and micheal moore.The people that were captured and thrown into Guantanamo were caught at the end of a AK-47 shooting and killing our soldiers.If you would do some research you would find that the people that have been captured and set free from Guantanamo were almost always found again either dead or captured planting roadside bombs,or once again trying to kill our soldiers.I am not sure what kind of people you think are in Guantanamo but if you don't think they would jump at the chance to kill as many Americans as possible by any means possible you are living in a fantasy world.Both Bush and Obama tried to close Guantanamo but nobody will take these prisoners because they are so dangerous. I have a solution to the Guantanmo problem.Lets the guards out and leave the prisoners inside.Then send a airstrike using no less than 20 cruise missles.Guantanmo will be gone,the terrorist can go up in a ball of flame and become hero's.Then we don't have to hear the whining and complaining from the left on how these poor terrorist are peacefull,live and let live,non threatning,people who are just misunderstood and pose no threat to both the United states or the world. Thomas, Why do you recommend violence so often? |
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Because I don't want to see our country go up in a ball of flame because some moron from the ACLU fighted to get dangerous terrorist set free only to have him come back to kill Americans in record numbers.If you think they are not guilty or dangerous why don't you start a petetion to have them set free in your hometown and you can play paddy cake with them in your house.
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FWIW, to answer the OP question: yes, this is a sick country. It won't get better till we excise the thing causing the sickness: government. WE THE PEOPLE are the government. Why are you living in a SICK country? Ba-bye! Also, how many times have we been attacked since 9/11/01?? Something has been effective. I get so pissed off when I hear anyone, let alone some wet behind the ears kid belly-aching about our country so many men and women have fought so hard for. Dammit! |
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Those articles I posted have no connection to the ACLU, or any leftist inclinations.
As far as there not being any attacks on this country since 9/11, I feel required to remind everyone that Al Qaeda are CIA assets, bought and paid for. Obama's numbers are going to continue to fall, lets just see what happens when those tank and his pet projects continue to not pass. Lets see what happens when the Audit the Fed bill moves forward. |
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there are a lot raped captives (including young boys) I DON,T BELIEVE THIS . WHEN YOU MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THIS YOU SHOULD PRODUCE PROOF AT THE TIME . Retired Major Gen. Antonio Taguba, who oversaw the U.S. investigation into the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison, told Britain's Daily Telegraph in an article published Wednesday that he agreed with Obama's decision not to release the pictures. "I am not sure what purpose their release would serve other than a legal one and the consequence would be to imperil our troops, the only protectors of our foreign policy, when we most need them," Taguba was quoted by the Daily Telegraph. "The mere description of these pictures is horrendous enough, take my word for it." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/27/abu-ghraib-abuse-photos-i_n_208430.html |
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FWIW, to answer the OP question: yes, this is a sick country. It won't get better till we excise the thing causing the sickness: government. WE THE PEOPLE are the government. Why are you living in a SICK country? Ba-bye! Also, how many times have we been attacked since 9/11/01?? Something has been effective. I get so pissed off when I hear anyone, let alone some wet behind the ears kid belly-aching about our country so many men and women have fought so hard for. Dammit! |
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Edited by
heavenlyboy34
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Thu 09/03/09 03:07 PM
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FWIW, to answer the OP question: yes, this is a sick country. It won't get better till we excise the thing causing the sickness: government. WE THE PEOPLE are the government. Why are you living in a SICK country? Ba-bye! Also, how many times have we been attacked since 9/11/01?? Something has been effective. I get so pissed off when I hear anyone, let alone some wet behind the ears kid belly-aching about our country so many men and women have fought so hard for. Dammit! That's the Jeffersonian ideal, ("the People" as the government). but it is not what exists in this era.  I'm not going to start up a huge debate about why "we" haven't been attacked, but it has more to do with bribing would-be terrorists and expanding the warfare/welfare State than any brilliant "Homeland Security" detail. (for more see "The Failed War On Terrorism": http://www.lewrockwell.com/gregory/gregory83.html) |
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Torture is never needed. Anyone who sales it that way is just sick. I was reading about such sickos this morning. http://www.truthout.org/082409R?n Hey! We agree on something! :) |
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Ok, sooo people being tortured.. You voting? Youuuu... writing letters?
You marching? Whatcha doin? |
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Ok, sooo people being tortured.. You voting? Youuuu... writing letters? You marching? Whatcha doin? "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal". -unknown (I personally am withholding my vote and engage in activism as often as possible) |
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humanity is general is sick, not just one country
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Ok, sooo people being tortured.. You voting? Youuuu... writing letters? You marching? Whatcha doin? "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal". -unknown (I personally am withholding my vote and engage in activism as often as possible) Oh no no my friend.. weve got CHANGE!!! Be assured. |
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humanity is general is sick, not just one country 
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