Dear Brethren...

"See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools,
but as wise, redeeming the time,
because the days are evil..."

{Ephesians 5 verses 15 and 16...}

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood..
Buit against principalities...against powers,
against the rulers of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places.."
Ephesians 6 verse 12...King James version...

"oh, and to any non-believers, or skeptics...
read our posts in religion
under the topic of 'FANATIC's

{since you are so bent on trying to diffuse our fire...
and futile attempts at dimming our Light...}

The eternal light of the
The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit

My Brethen...be of good cheer...
May the Peace of God
that passes all understanding
dwell in your hearts today...

with love...

Adventure, If the fullness ofGod himself passed you by it is biblicaly
accurate to say you wouldn't survive it. Just ask Moses.

God has passed by us all several times in our lives, but has disguised
himself(or herself) to be a person who didn't appear to be a desireable
person to carry a conversation with. How many of us have actually talked
to them, or just passed by them and said somethin about the homeless
problem?

That would pertain more to angels passing you by. If all here who
believe in Christ, can't except the bible as the inerrant word of God,
then there is room made for apostacy

What a sweet quote.

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood..
Buit against principalities...against powers,
against the rulers of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places.."
Ephesians 6 verse 12...King James version

Keep your faith I have no quarrel with you and never did. Read what I
have said in it you will find nothing that says one of faith is wrong in
that faith.

I will say it once again God is in me as I am in him. In his presence I
can not die for by his spirit I am eternal.

He is in us all. Nothing happens in this world but that God has made it
happen.

For He says BE and it is so.

And in this time there will be a worshipping of angels.

Gods Word bids me say, Angels are but a flight of fancy embellished by
the whims of man.

I read and KNOW that God is in SOME of us.All i was saying is the
fullness of God is not in ANYONE even you.If he were then YOU would DIE
and he would be there and not you.

John 1:1-4
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being
through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come
into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.
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Life is from the Son, not the Father. The Son created all things, not
the Father. Everything the Son does is to glorify the Father.

The Bible is the Word of God. There is no doubt for its proofs are
contained within.

Epistles are but internal letters of the church and not the words of god
but the words of man one to another. They are not nor should they have
ever been included within the book that IS Holy.

Time will prove this to you as those that placed these within Gods Word
to deceive will reap the rewards of there fruits. Their time will
wither as the truth of Christ can never do. His message will continue to
grow even as the veils the false ones have placed upon their secrets rip
assunder and show to the world the truth of the evil within the tower of
pride they have erected. Keep to the faith and the Word for in that is
salvation.

AdventureBegins,

How many of the epistles have you read? Colossians is a great one to
start with. Romans is another one that is very powerful.

Spider, thank you for backing up all you say with scripture and also
just showing scripture. Thank you brother.

rproman,

Thank you. I have appreciated your posts, I make a point to read every
one. It's great to see other Jesus freaks here. God bless you.

Is that not what has been done with scripture for the past 2000 years?
It has used repeatedly to perpetrate the most heinous things that can be
done to mankind. It breaks my heart. And that is not God.

Invisible, I agree with you. The messages came through man. They were
interpreted by other men. All of whom, by nature of existing in this
physical plane, have their own belief systems and filters and agendas in
place through which the information is shared and received.

The writings themselves are interpreted and can be read differently
depending upon your point of view at the time ... and that changes.

Good Christian folk felt perfectly justified in keeping and mistreating
slaves.

A young man I knew was beaten to within an inch of his life and is now
paralyzed from the waist down because he is gay. Good Christian boys in
the mid-80's.

That in no way invalidates scripture. ..it serves a very meaningful
purpose to some and I respect that. I will not, however, disregard
common sense and reasoning and there are many things that just do not
make sense to me and which limit my relationship with that one source.

I do dream of a world where we are free just to be. Where differences
are embraced and tolerance is the norm.

I see God everywhere I go. I feel the connection everywhere.

A large tree lives outside my window. And each season I marvel! Each
day it grows into a grander version of itself. It doesn't question its
surroundings, it just adapts.

Its many branches reaching skyward while staying strongly rooted to the
ground. Many branches are straight, some gnarled, some growing back
toward itself.

Leaves - they bud, they grow in perfection then when the time comes they
let go gracefully not fighting to hold on.

I do not see leaves and branches of a tree fighting among themselves -
how ridiculous that would seem....

Nor do I see the poplar trees chastising the black pines for
experiencing life differently - or for being infected with the pine
beetle. Each is left to live whatever expression of life is right for
them.

I am inspired by all that is. I am inspired by the people who cross my
path briefly and the ones who run parallel for a time.

It is all God to me ... and I do not believe one is loved over another.

In the begining God created the heaven and the earth. God is not the
Word He in his Glory CREATED the Word. The word is his message to us.
It is not God.

I have read them. They are full of wisdom in some places. The wisdom
of men that have been touched by a greatness.

What you quoted from John is John in prepration to introducing himself.
After he has placed himself before Christ he then begins to introduce
the words of Christ. That quote is not the words of Christ but of John.

I do not pray to or worship John.

Sherrie

That was wonderfully phrased, I wish I had your way with words.

And it is so true

AdventureBegins,

John is talking about the divinity of Jesus, not himself. You are
twisting the words so much, why are you doing that? What is it that
drives you to corrupt God's truth so much?

I speak the truth.

What you quoted is the begining 4 parts to the Chapter in the Bible
known as 'The Gospel According to St. John'.

You quoted paragraph 1 through 4. Pragraph 5 continues with a statement
that the darkness does not comprehend the light. Paragraph 6. says
'There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

He was introducing himself. He does not begin to introduce the Reason
for Salvation till he has placed himself before it. I will not eat of
the blood of the Saints for the Word is not a saint but of God. Glory
is in the Son but the Father IS Glory.

John 1:1-5 introduces Jesus.
John 1:6 introduces John the Baptist.

John 1:7-8 describes John the Baptists (not John the Apostle, ie the
author of this Gospel) mission

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He came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might
believe through him. He was not the Light, but he came to testify about
the Light.
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And in the begining was the word?

In the begining God created the heavens and the earth. Where is the
word mentioned in this.

Where within this does it say John the Babtist?

It is either as I have said or it is misleading and therefore suspect as
being the word of a man (althougth an enlightend man) but a man none the
less.

Place before me the truth in the Words of Jesus not that of a man for
the church was built in the Name of Christ.