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Topic: Vick - The Dog Killer...
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Sun 08/16/09 12:18 AM

well put jt


Agree, very well put jt flowerforyou

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Sun 08/16/09 12:19 AM

When i hear people say "he did his time,he should be reinstated into the NFL",i look at that as them saying he is better than the dogs he killed.

what makes humans better than dogs?.dogs kill for 3 reasons


1.Food
2.Territory
3.Self Defense

what do humans kill for?

1.Money
2.Oil
3.Jealousy
4.Anger
5.Because they're just plain CRAZY

I have always put more trust into dogs than i have people and i always will

Forgot to include this....very well put jtflowerforyou

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Sun 08/16/09 12:53 PM

ummm sports players are supposed to set a bigger example than anyone.people can claim that football,baseball,and basketball players aren't Role Models but that is BS!.every kid that plays sports has a pro athlete that they look up to that they want to be like and that is a ROLE MODEL



No. That's not true. They are people. Just like we are.

That huge uproar when Charles Barkely told parents that he wasn't a role model was dead accurate.

Just as no one should be put on a pedestal, sports stars shouldn't be relied upon to be role models for your children.

It puts s level of pressure on the players that many of them are ill equipped to handle.

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Sun 08/16/09 01:23 PM
WOOF

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Sun 08/16/09 02:28 PM


ummm sports players are supposed to set a bigger example than anyone.people can claim that football,baseball,and basketball players aren't Role Models but that is BS!.every kid that plays sports has a pro athlete that they look up to that they want to be like and that is a ROLE MODEL



No. That's not true. They are people. Just like we are.

That huge uproar when Charles Barkely told parents that he wasn't a role model was dead accurate.

Just as no one should be put on a pedestal, sports stars shouldn't be relied upon to be role models for your children.

It puts s level of pressure on the players that many of them are ill equipped to handle.
Well dam now I feel sorry for the bunch of over-paid millionaires!!!!! NOT!!!!!!

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Sun 08/16/09 03:35 PM

general statement not aimed to any individual/s

boycott football

do not watch a game

do not buy anything advertised on football programming

lets see how much those totally disgusted with the nfl are committed

put your money to work

can ya do it

if not then you support the nfl

and thus approve their actions

think about your commitment to what you say and act on it

or quit saying it maybe

just a thought

but hey.............

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Sun 08/16/09 06:28 PM



ummm sports players are supposed to set a bigger example than anyone.people can claim that football,baseball,and basketball players aren't Role Models but that is BS!.every kid that plays sports has a pro athlete that they look up to that they want to be like and that is a ROLE MODEL



No. That's not true. They are people. Just like we are.

That huge uproar when Charles Barkely told parents that he wasn't a role model was dead accurate.

Just as no one should be put on a pedestal, sports stars shouldn't be relied upon to be role models for your children.

It puts s level of pressure on the players that many of them are ill equipped to handle.
Well dam now I feel sorry for the bunch of over-paid millionaires!!!!! NOT!!!!!!


First, over paid is a strictly relative term. If you were the CEO of a giant company, and made a few million dollars a year for doing it, would you consider yourself " over paid " and return 85% of your salary??

The people who own the teams that pay these guys don't seem to be doing too much complaining about the players being " over paid ". Especially when they are winning.

Second, just because these guys make a whole lot of money for what they do doesn't mean that parents should look to them to mentor their children.

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Sun 08/16/09 08:18 PM




ummm sports players are supposed to set a bigger example than anyone.people can claim that football,baseball,and basketball players aren't Role Models but that is BS!.every kid that plays sports has a pro athlete that they look up to that they want to be like and that is a ROLE MODEL



No. That's not true. They are people. Just like we are.

That huge uproar when Charles Barkely told parents that he wasn't a role model was dead accurate.

Just as no one should be put on a pedestal, sports stars shouldn't be relied upon to be role models for your children.

It puts s level of pressure on the players that many of them are ill equipped to handle.
Well dam now I feel sorry for the bunch of over-paid millionaires!!!!! NOT!!!!!!


First, over paid is a strictly relative term. If you were the CEO of a giant company, and made a few million dollars a year for doing it, would you consider yourself " over paid " and return 85% of your salary??

The people who own the teams that pay these guys don't seem to be doing too much complaining about the players being " over paid ". Especially when they are winning.

Second, just because these guys make a whole lot of money for what they do doesn't mean that parents should look to them to mentor their children.


exactly guy

that is why i posted this earlier



that is a cop out for negligent parents

raise your kids to know right from wrong
and
what another does will not be reflected in their behavio



some just do not get it

if you have kids it is your responsibility to raise them properly

not to look at those in the public eye and expect them to be a positive influence (yeah t would be nice if they were)

in the end it is the parents responsibility

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Sun 08/16/09 08:21 PM





ummm sports players are supposed to set a bigger example than anyone.people can claim that football,baseball,and basketball players aren't Role Models but that is BS!.every kid that plays sports has a pro athlete that they look up to that they want to be like and that is a ROLE MODEL



No. That's not true. They are people. Just like we are.

That huge uproar when Charles Barkely told parents that he wasn't a role model was dead accurate.

Just as no one should be put on a pedestal, sports stars shouldn't be relied upon to be role models for your children.

It puts s level of pressure on the players that many of them are ill equipped to handle.
Well dam now I feel sorry for the bunch of over-paid millionaires!!!!! NOT!!!!!!


First, over paid is a strictly relative term. If you were the CEO of a giant company, and made a few million dollars a year for doing it, would you consider yourself " over paid " and return 85% of your salary??

The people who own the teams that pay these guys don't seem to be doing too much complaining about the players being " over paid ". Especially when they are winning.

Second, just because these guys make a whole lot of money for what they do doesn't mean that parents should look to them to mentor their children.


exactly guy

that is why i posted this earlier



that is a cop out for negligent parents

raise your kids to know right from wrong
and
what another does will not be reflected in their behavio



some just do not get it

if you have kids it is your responsibility to raise them properly

not to look at those in the public eye and expect them to be a positive influence (yeah t would be nice if they were)

in the end it is the parents responsibility
I agreedrinker drinker but Im dam sure not gonna feel sorry for someone who puts himself in that position making that kinda of money!!!!!!!!

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Sun 08/16/09 08:35 PM

WOOF


does that mean that you are a browns fan

:wink: laugh

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Sun 08/16/09 08:41 PM





ummm sports players are supposed to set a bigger example than anyone.people can claim that football,baseball,and basketball players aren't Role Models but that is BS!.every kid that plays sports has a pro athlete that they look up to that they want to be like and that is a ROLE MODEL



No. That's not true. They are people. Just like we are.

That huge uproar when Charles Barkely told parents that he wasn't a role model was dead accurate.

Just as no one should be put on a pedestal, sports stars shouldn't be relied upon to be role models for your children.

It puts s level of pressure on the players that many of them are ill equipped to handle.
Well dam now I feel sorry for the bunch of over-paid millionaires!!!!! NOT!!!!!!


First, over paid is a strictly relative term. If you were the CEO of a giant company, and made a few million dollars a year for doing it, would you consider yourself " over paid " and return 85% of your salary??

The people who own the teams that pay these guys don't seem to be doing too much complaining about the players being " over paid ". Especially when they are winning.

Second, just because these guys make a whole lot of money for what they do doesn't mean that parents should look to them to mentor their children.


exactly guy

that is why i posted this earlier



that is a cop out for negligent parents

raise your kids to know right from wrong
and
what another does will not be reflected in their behavio



some just do not get it

if you have kids it is your responsibility to raise them properly

not to look at those in the public eye and expect them to be a positive influence (yeah t would be nice if they were)

in the end it is the parents responsibility


Sorry. I must have looked past that earlier post.

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Sun 08/16/09 08:44 PM






ummm sports players are supposed to set a bigger example than anyone.people can claim that football,baseball,and basketball players aren't Role Models but that is BS!.every kid that plays sports has a pro athlete that they look up to that they want to be like and that is a ROLE MODEL



No. That's not true. They are people. Just like we are.

That huge uproar when Charles Barkely told parents that he wasn't a role model was dead accurate.

Just as no one should be put on a pedestal, sports stars shouldn't be relied upon to be role models for your children.

It puts s level of pressure on the players that many of them are ill equipped to handle.
Well dam now I feel sorry for the bunch of over-paid millionaires!!!!! NOT!!!!!!


First, over paid is a strictly relative term. If you were the CEO of a giant company, and made a few million dollars a year for doing it, would you consider yourself " over paid " and return 85% of your salary??

The people who own the teams that pay these guys don't seem to be doing too much complaining about the players being " over paid ". Especially when they are winning.

Second, just because these guys make a whole lot of money for what they do doesn't mean that parents should look to them to mentor their children.


exactly guy

that is why i posted this earlier



that is a cop out for negligent parents

raise your kids to know right from wrong
and
what another does will not be reflected in their behavio



some just do not get it

if you have kids it is your responsibility to raise them properly

not to look at those in the public eye and expect them to be a positive influence (yeah t would be nice if they were)

in the end it is the parents responsibility


Sorry. I must have looked past that earlier post.


no need to apologize

more that state the same idea

maybe someone will understand it sooner

and that would be a good thing

drinker drinker drinker

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Sun 08/16/09 08:48 PM
Sorry. I must have looked past that earlier post.


no need to apologize

more that state the same idea

maybe someone will understand it sooner

and that would be a good thing

drinker drinker drinker


Very true.drinker

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Wed 08/19/09 09:31 PM
I happen to be A Virginia Tech Fan(From where Vick started) and I must say I think it sends a statement to our children. He should not have been reinstated if you ask me.

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Thu 08/20/09 07:00 AM




ummm sports players are supposed to set a bigger example than anyone.people can claim that football,baseball,and basketball players aren't Role Models but that is BS!.every kid that plays sports has a pro athlete that they look up to that they want to be like and that is a ROLE MODEL



No. That's not true. They are people. Just like we are.

That huge uproar when Charles Barkely told parents that he wasn't a role model was dead accurate.

Just as no one should be put on a pedestal, sports stars shouldn't be relied upon to be role models for your children.

It puts s level of pressure on the players that many of them are ill equipped to handle.
Well dam now I feel sorry for the bunch of over-paid millionaires!!!!! NOT!!!!!!


First, over paid is a strictly relative term. If you were the CEO of a giant company, and made a few million dollars a year for doing it, would you consider yourself " over paid " and return 85% of your salary??

The people who own the teams that pay these guys don't seem to be doing too much complaining about the players being " over paid ". Especially when they are winning.

Second, just because these guys make a whole lot of money for what they do doesn't mean that parents should look to them to mentor their children.


its not necessarily the parents telling the kids to look up to someone. the kids see a famous player and think "i wanna be like.... when i grow up". i am an eagles fan and my son knows what vick did. we will not wear vick jerseys (my son wouldnt wear one simply b/c he is sickened by what happened, not b/c i said so) but we will still support our team. when vick was signed, my son and i had a talk about what he did and he said he doesnt like him but he hopes he can play good since he is now on our team.

to michelle2you: go hokies!

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Thu 08/20/09 08:29 AM

I happen to be A Virginia Tech Fan(From where Vick started) and I must say I think it sends a statement to our children. He should not have been reinstated if you ask me.


Your right!

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Thu 08/20/09 09:16 AM
Edited by AGoodGuy1026 on Thu 08/20/09 09:17 AM

Vick got reinstated for the same reason Simpson got away with murder. In this county,athletes are put on pedestals. It's disgusting. At least Simpson will die behind bars,sadly Vick will not. be seeing you


Vick did the crime, he was tried, convicted... he served his prison sentence...

If you don't like the punishment, take it up with the government. I am a network engineer - If I committed the same crime, should I be denied my ability to make a living in my chosen profession - becuase I committed an un-related crime?

He did his crime, paid his penalty - why do you feel the need to take away the man's ability to make a living...??

Of course he should play... I hope he does well, and still has his god given talent... I also hope he has learned his lesson.

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Fri 08/21/09 01:11 AM

I happen to be A Virginia Tech Fan(From where Vick started) and I must say I think it sends a statement to our children. He should not have been reinstated if you ask me.


He went to PRISON!!!

That sends a message as well.

Had he not been reinstated, what message would that have been??

The message would have been," No matter what, if you screw up you are branded with that for LIFE! No second chances.

If you screw up, you will NEVER be allowed to do what you want to do for a living because, no matter how much you regret it, and no matter what you do to try to make up for it, you will have become a person who is not worth anything at all. "

What kind of message is that for kids to see?

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Fri 08/21/09 03:11 AM
Edited by adj4u on Fri 08/21/09 03:49 AM


I happen to be A Virginia Tech Fan(From where Vick started) and I must say I think it sends a statement to our children. He should not have been reinstated if you ask me.


He went to PRISON!!!

That sends a message as well.

Had he not been reinstated, what message would that have been??

The message would have been," No matter what, if you screw up you are branded with that for LIFE! No second chances.

If you screw up, you will NEVER be allowed to do what you want to do for a living because, no matter how much you regret it, and no matter what you do to try to make up for it, you will have become a person who is not worth anything at all. "

What kind of message is that for kids to see?




very good point

hhhhhmmmmmmmmm lets see

they let a manson murderess out for compassionate reasons

and let a terrorist bomber out for compassionate reasons

both killed humans multiple humans and did not serve their full sentence

and vick kills a few dogs (which the govt does regularly by the way and a lot more than a few) [the animal shelter is not a safe place for animals]

and he does his time gets out and you do not want him to go back to his previous profession

yet if those other two go on world wide tv you will support their release by watching the show they are on

some double standard there i would say



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Fri 08/21/09 04:02 PM
Humans in general are carnivores so we have to kill to eat but their is a difference when you kill a chicken to feed people or kill a dog for pleasure and money.

I do not believe in killing for pleasure, I eat meat because I want to survive (I hate vegetable or i would be a vegetarian) I would never kill an animal as a sport (hunting) or for money.

How a human treats its domestic animal is a barometer on what kind of person he/she is, so training animals to kill each other and then kill the looser because he makes you lose money just tells me that they are not what I would consider a human being.

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