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Again this healthcare is not an infringement of anyones rights. It is not forced health insurance. It is an option that will be available.
It is not socialized healthcare since it will not be the only healthcare on the list. If employers who cannot afford to carry insurance for their employees opt out of carrying health care at least the employees have this option. Nothing is perfect, nothing. There will be bugs and issues to work out but the fact that we need it and it is doable should be enough for us to be supportive. |
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Again this healthcare is not an infringement of anyones rights. It is not forced health insurance. It is an option that will be available. It is not socialized healthcare since it will not be the only healthcare on the list. If employers who cannot afford to carry insurance for their employees opt out of carrying health care at least the employees have this option. Nothing is perfect, nothing. There will be bugs and issues to work out but the fact that we need it and it is doable should be enough for us to be supportive. so can you give me a real reason yet why we need this that is based in fact and not emotion? Something that does not involve the phrase "we are the greatest nation in the world" maybe? The honest answer is yes, this is socialized health insurance. That's what a health insurance run by the federal government is by definition. I'd like to point out to you, again, that any additional tax is a violation of my liberties and rights. I will have to pay a tax on my health insurance which will take my hard-earned money and give it to some low-life that refuses to take care of themself. That is ********. We do not need the nanny state, expecially a half-assed nanny state where we pay for healthcare yet still allow them to act as they please, further increasing that cost. |
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Again this healthcare is not an infringement of anyones rights. It is not forced health insurance. It is an option that will be available. It is not socialized healthcare since it will not be the only healthcare on the list. If employers who cannot afford to carry insurance for their employees opt out of carrying health care at least the employees have this option. Nothing is perfect, nothing. There will be bugs and issues to work out but the fact that we need it and it is doable should be enough for us to be supportive. so can you give me a real reason yet why we need this that is based in fact and not emotion? Something that does not involve the phrase "we are the greatest nation in the world" maybe? The honest answer is yes, this is socialized health insurance. That's what a health insurance run by the federal government is by definition. I'd like to point out to you, again, that any additional tax is a violation of my liberties and rights. I will have to pay a tax on my health insurance which will take my hard-earned money and give it to some low-life that refuses to take care of themself. That is ********. We do not need the nanny state, expecially a half-assed nanny state where we pay for healthcare yet still allow them to act as they please, further increasing that cost. Being the greatest na--- just joking...lol It is not forced health care. Socialization means government forced programs. It means there is not other options available but national healthcare. This is not socialized healthcare by any definition. |
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Again this healthcare is not an infringement of anyones rights. It is not forced health insurance. It is an option that will be available. It is not socialized healthcare since it will not be the only healthcare on the list. If employers who cannot afford to carry insurance for their employees opt out of carrying health care at least the employees have this option. Nothing is perfect, nothing. There will be bugs and issues to work out but the fact that we need it and it is doable should be enough for us to be supportive. so can you give me a real reason yet why we need this that is based in fact and not emotion? Something that does not involve the phrase "we are the greatest nation in the world" maybe? The honest answer is yes, this is socialized health insurance. That's what a health insurance run by the federal government is by definition. I'd like to point out to you, again, that any additional tax is a violation of my liberties and rights. I will have to pay a tax on my health insurance which will take my hard-earned money and give it to some low-life that refuses to take care of themself. That is ********. We do not need the nanny state, expecially a half-assed nanny state where we pay for healthcare yet still allow them to act as they please, further increasing that cost. Being the greatest na--- just joking...lol It is not forced health care. Socialization means government forced programs. It means there is not other options available but national healthcare. This is not socialized healthcare by any definition. So do you plan on giving me a reason why we need it? That was the actual intent of my post. This is essentially socialist health insurance in the making. This is step one: foot into the marketplace. I have yet to find a page that recants page 16 and I'm up to 4xx or something. But ignore that. Why do we need this? |
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I was watching the demonstration that happened here yesterday over the National Healthcare plan. Pelosi was here touring a clinic. When they interviewed the anti healthcare people, I was shocked to see that they believe lies or made up facts. The national healthcare bill is not a violation of anyone's constitutional rights at any level, so where do they get that information? It is not socialized healthcare either so where do they get that information? The anti national health care people seem to believe that the healthcare problem is not a serious one. Is that because they all have healthcare? Do people realize that there are forces at work that do not want this type of healthcare offered because it would hurt their bottom line? That these forces would say anything to stop this from happening? I have to wonder is this the result of an underlying issue that has nothing to do with healthcare. Because the validity of the argument is mute????? The heaathcare is not even a hand out, it is an option program. Noone has to take the option. Unless you lose your current insurance. Then you go on the " option ", which is fine. The problem is, once you are on, you can't go BACK to private insurance even if your job offers it. |
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I was watching the demonstration that happened here yesterday over the National Healthcare plan. Pelosi was here touring a clinic. When they interviewed the anti healthcare people, I was shocked to see that they believe lies or made up facts. The national healthcare bill is not a violation of anyone's constitutional rights at any level, so where do they get that information? It is not socialized healthcare either so where do they get that information? The anti national health care people seem to believe that the healthcare problem is not a serious one. Is that because they all have healthcare? Do people realize that there are forces at work that do not want this type of healthcare offered because it would hurt their bottom line? That these forces would say anything to stop this from happening? I have to wonder is this the result of an underlying issue that has nothing to do with healthcare. Because the validity of the argument is mute????? The heaathcare is not even a hand out, it is an option program. Noone has to take the option. Unless you lose your current insurance. Then you go on the " option ", which is fine. The problem is, once you are on, you can't go BACK to private insurance even if your job offers it. That is not true. People are misunderstanding the wording concerning the enrollment period of insurance companies. It is not true. |
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Obama and his jack boot cronies remind me of Animal Farm "All people are created equal, but some people are more equal then others!" My question is is the president and members of both houses gonna take this plan?
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Again this healthcare is not an infringement of anyones rights. It is not forced health insurance. It is an option that will be available. It is not socialized healthcare since it will not be the only healthcare on the list. If employers who cannot afford to carry insurance for their employees opt out of carrying health care at least the employees have this option. Nothing is perfect, nothing. There will be bugs and issues to work out but the fact that we need it and it is doable should be enough for us to be supportive. so can you give me a real reason yet why we need this that is based in fact and not emotion? Something that does not involve the phrase "we are the greatest nation in the world" maybe? The honest answer is yes, this is socialized health insurance. That's what a health insurance run by the federal government is by definition. I'd like to point out to you, again, that any additional tax is a violation of my liberties and rights. I will have to pay a tax on my health insurance which will take my hard-earned money and give it to some low-life that refuses to take care of themself. That is ********. We do not need the nanny state, expecially a half-assed nanny state where we pay for healthcare yet still allow them to act as they please, further increasing that cost. Being the greatest na--- just joking...lol It is not forced health care. Socialization means government forced programs. It means there is not other options available but national healthcare. This is not socialized healthcare by any definition. So do you plan on giving me a reason why we need it? That was the actual intent of my post. This is essentially socialist health insurance in the making. This is step one: foot into the marketplace. I have yet to find a page that recants page 16 and I'm up to 4xx or something. But ignore that. Why do we need this? There are millions of people without health insurance that is a very valid reason. |
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Again this healthcare is not an infringement of anyones rights. It is not forced health insurance. It is an option that will be available. It is not socialized healthcare since it will not be the only healthcare on the list. If employers who cannot afford to carry insurance for their employees opt out of carrying health care at least the employees have this option. Nothing is perfect, nothing. There will be bugs and issues to work out but the fact that we need it and it is doable should be enough for us to be supportive. so can you give me a real reason yet why we need this that is based in fact and not emotion? Something that does not involve the phrase "we are the greatest nation in the world" maybe? The honest answer is yes, this is socialized health insurance. That's what a health insurance run by the federal government is by definition. I'd like to point out to you, again, that any additional tax is a violation of my liberties and rights. I will have to pay a tax on my health insurance which will take my hard-earned money and give it to some low-life that refuses to take care of themself. That is ********. We do not need the nanny state, expecially a half-assed nanny state where we pay for healthcare yet still allow them to act as they please, further increasing that cost. Being the greatest na--- just joking...lol It is not forced health care. Socialization means government forced programs. It means there is not other options available but national healthcare. This is not socialized healthcare by any definition. So do you plan on giving me a reason why we need it? That was the actual intent of my post. This is essentially socialist health insurance in the making. This is step one: foot into the marketplace. I have yet to find a page that recants page 16 and I'm up to 4xx or something. But ignore that. Why do we need this? There are millions of people without health insurance that is a very valid reason. why doesn't the federal government make deals with state ACCCS programs instead of spending a trillion dollars on a bill with 13,000 pages that not one member of the house or senate has read? |
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Again this healthcare is not an infringement of anyones rights. It is not forced health insurance. It is an option that will be available. It is not socialized healthcare since it will not be the only healthcare on the list. If employers who cannot afford to carry insurance for their employees opt out of carrying health care at least the employees have this option. Nothing is perfect, nothing. There will be bugs and issues to work out but the fact that we need it and it is doable should be enough for us to be supportive. so can you give me a real reason yet why we need this that is based in fact and not emotion? Something that does not involve the phrase "we are the greatest nation in the world" maybe? The honest answer is yes, this is socialized health insurance. That's what a health insurance run by the federal government is by definition. I'd like to point out to you, again, that any additional tax is a violation of my liberties and rights. I will have to pay a tax on my health insurance which will take my hard-earned money and give it to some low-life that refuses to take care of themself. That is ********. We do not need the nanny state, expecially a half-assed nanny state where we pay for healthcare yet still allow them to act as they please, further increasing that cost. Being the greatest na--- just joking...lol It is not forced health care. Socialization means government forced programs. It means there is not other options available but national healthcare. This is not socialized healthcare by any definition. So do you plan on giving me a reason why we need it? That was the actual intent of my post. This is essentially socialist health insurance in the making. This is step one: foot into the marketplace. I have yet to find a page that recants page 16 and I'm up to 4xx or something. But ignore that. Why do we need this? There are millions of people without health insurance that is a very valid reason. why doesn't the federal government make deals with state ACCCS programs instead of spending a trillion dollars on a bill with 13,000 pages that not one member of the house or senate has read? That could be done except that states can opt out of it and deny their constituents the healthcare and that would not be universal healthcare in that instance. |
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I was watching the demonstration that happened here yesterday over the National Healthcare plan. Pelosi was here touring a clinic. When they interviewed the anti healthcare people, I was shocked to see that they believe lies or made up facts. The national healthcare bill is not a violation of anyone's constitutional rights at any level, so where do they get that information? It is not socialized healthcare either so where do they get that information? The anti national health care people seem to believe that the healthcare problem is not a serious one. Is that because they all have healthcare? Do people realize that there are forces at work that do not want this type of healthcare offered because it would hurt their bottom line? That these forces would say anything to stop this from happening? I have to wonder is this the result of an underlying issue that has nothing to do with healthcare. Because the validity of the argument is mute????? The heaathcare is not even a hand out, it is an option program. Noone has to take the option. Unless you lose your current insurance. Then you go on the " option ", which is fine. The problem is, once you are on, you can't go BACK to private insurance even if your job offers it. That is not true. People are misunderstanding the wording concerning the enrollment period of insurance companies. It is not true. Ok. So maybe I am " misunderstanding " the wording. However, to me that says there is WAY too much of a gray area in the wording that the government, since the President is so hyped on the whole idea in the first place, could step in and take advantage of. After all, doesn't Obama want EVERY American covered??? Use those technicalities and loopholes in the right ways, which Washington is VERY good at, and that's exactly what will happen. One Payer health Care. The payer being the government. But lemme ask you this. When did the folks in Washington manage to convince you that they had the right ideas about spending our money? Was it the bailouts of the banks while the working class were still losing their jobs?? Was it the fact that, to this day, the Pentagon still pays several hundred dollars for a hammer? Even though they got called out on it years ago?? Or was it that, if you DON'T choose their option, you are gonna get taxed/penalized somewhere in the neighborhood of 25oo dollars a year? I'm sorry. I am all about trying to make sure people have health insurance. I just don't think our government is the proper entity to be handling it. |
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I was watching the demonstration that happened here yesterday over the National Healthcare plan. Pelosi was here touring a clinic. When they interviewed the anti healthcare people, I was shocked to see that they believe lies or made up facts. The national healthcare bill is not a violation of anyone's constitutional rights at any level, so where do they get that information? It is not socialized healthcare either so where do they get that information? The anti national health care people seem to believe that the healthcare problem is not a serious one. Is that because they all have healthcare? Do people realize that there are forces at work that do not want this type of healthcare offered because it would hurt their bottom line? That these forces would say anything to stop this from happening? I have to wonder is this the result of an underlying issue that has nothing to do with healthcare. Because the validity of the argument is mute????? The heaathcare is not even a hand out, it is an option program. Noone has to take the option. Unless you lose your current insurance. Then you go on the " option ", which is fine. The problem is, once you are on, you can't go BACK to private insurance even if your job offers it. That is not true. People are misunderstanding the wording concerning the enrollment period of insurance companies. It is not true. Ok. So maybe I am " misunderstanding " the wording. However, to me that says there is WAY too much of a gray area in the wording that the government, since the President is so hyped on the whole idea in the first place, could step in and take advantage of. After all, doesn't Obama want EVERY American covered??? Use those technicalities and loopholes in the right ways, which Washington is VERY good at, and that's exactly what will happen. One Payer health Care. The payer being the government. But lemme ask you this. When did the folks in Washington manage to convince you that they had the right ideas about spending our money? Was it the bailouts of the banks while the working class were still losing their jobs?? Was it the fact that, to this day, the Pentagon still pays several hundred dollars for a hammer? Even though they got called out on it years ago?? Or was it that, if you DON'T choose their option, you are gonna get taxed/penalized somewhere in the neighborhood of 25oo dollars a year? I'm sorry. I am all about trying to make sure people have health insurance. I just don't think our government is the proper entity to be handling it. Wanting all Americans to have access to health care is the goal. But they are not trying to force them to take government healthcare. If they want to pay for other healthcare they can. And many will continue to pay for their healthcare. Those Americans who do not have health care will have access to it. It is a proven fact that if you stop people from waiting until their health issues are emergencies it costs less to care for them. That alone will bring the costs down. |
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Again this healthcare is not an infringement of anyones rights. It is not forced health insurance. It is an option that will be available. It is not socialized healthcare since it will not be the only healthcare on the list. If employers who cannot afford to carry insurance for their employees opt out of carrying health care at least the employees have this option. Nothing is perfect, nothing. There will be bugs and issues to work out but the fact that we need it and it is doable should be enough for us to be supportive. so can you give me a real reason yet why we need this that is based in fact and not emotion? Something that does not involve the phrase "we are the greatest nation in the world" maybe? The honest answer is yes, this is socialized health insurance. That's what a health insurance run by the federal government is by definition. I'd like to point out to you, again, that any additional tax is a violation of my liberties and rights. I will have to pay a tax on my health insurance which will take my hard-earned money and give it to some low-life that refuses to take care of themself. That is ********. We do not need the nanny state, expecially a half-assed nanny state where we pay for healthcare yet still allow them to act as they please, further increasing that cost. Who's the low life, Andrew? I have worked all my life, though I have never made a lot of money. I came from a time when money wasn't the be all and end all of society and when people didn't make the kind of money they do now. But these days you are judged by what you own and how much money you have. So I am your low life, Andrew? I really can not afford insurance today. And I have nothing left to give up to be able to afford it. I don't like accepting things that are not given from the right perspective. I would never ask anything of you. I am way too proud. If I get sick, even though I do take care of myself, I will not be treated, apparently that is ok by you. I find that so distasteful, but I accept that people feel that way, but then that is way too emotional. Rage and anger seem to be the only acceptable emotions lately. Empathy is reserved for immediate family if at all... |
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Again this healthcare is not an infringement of anyones rights. It is not forced health insurance. It is an option that will be available. It is not socialized healthcare since it will not be the only healthcare on the list. If employers who cannot afford to carry insurance for their employees opt out of carrying health care at least the employees have this option. Nothing is perfect, nothing. There will be bugs and issues to work out but the fact that we need it and it is doable should be enough for us to be supportive. so can you give me a real reason yet why we need this that is based in fact and not emotion? Something that does not involve the phrase "we are the greatest nation in the world" maybe? The honest answer is yes, this is socialized health insurance. That's what a health insurance run by the federal government is by definition. I'd like to point out to you, again, that any additional tax is a violation of my liberties and rights. I will have to pay a tax on my health insurance which will take my hard-earned money and give it to some low-life that refuses to take care of themself. That is ********. We do not need the nanny state, expecially a half-assed nanny state where we pay for healthcare yet still allow them to act as they please, further increasing that cost. Who's the low life, Andrew? I have worked all my life, though I have never made a lot of money. I came from a time when money wasn't the be all and end all of society and when people didn't make the kind of money they do now. But these days you are judged by what you own and how much money you have. So I am your low life, Andrew? I really can not afford insurance today. And I have nothing left to give up to be able to afford it. I don't like accepting things that are not given from the right perspective. I would never ask anything of you. I am way too proud. If I get sick, even though I do take care of myself, I will not be treated, apparently that is ok by you. I find that so distasteful, but I accept that people feel that way, but then that is way too emotional. Rage and anger seem to be the only acceptable emotions lately. Empathy is reserved for immediate family if at all... I know. I was skipping from thread to thread and forgot to address that very prejudice statement of his. It is sad that in this country the poor, working or disabled, are placed in such distain by those that have or have been lucky enough in life to be blessed with the abilities to work and make enough to live comfortably. It is always "they are poor because they want to be" but if they had ever suffered it they would know that only the mentally disabled would want to live in destitution and not work to make it better and that makes them disabled. |
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I was watching the demonstration that happened here yesterday over the National Healthcare plan. Pelosi was here touring a clinic. When they interviewed the anti healthcare people, I was shocked to see that they believe lies or made up facts. The national healthcare bill is not a violation of anyone's constitutional rights at any level, so where do they get that information? It is not socialized healthcare either so where do they get that information? The anti national health care people seem to believe that the healthcare problem is not a serious one. Is that because they all have healthcare? Do people realize that there are forces at work that do not want this type of healthcare offered because it would hurt their bottom line? That these forces would say anything to stop this from happening? I have to wonder is this the result of an underlying issue that has nothing to do with healthcare. Because the validity of the argument is mute????? I can see a constitutional problem... I am not from the right... Nor the left... Not with the health bill itself. With the path of my government... MY grandchildrens. and yours! |
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Again this healthcare is not an infringement of anyones rights. It is not forced health insurance. It is an option that will be available. It is not socialized healthcare since it will not be the only healthcare on the list. If employers who cannot afford to carry insurance for their employees opt out of carrying health care at least the employees have this option. Nothing is perfect, nothing. There will be bugs and issues to work out but the fact that we need it and it is doable should be enough for us to be supportive. so can you give me a real reason yet why we need this that is based in fact and not emotion? Something that does not involve the phrase "we are the greatest nation in the world" maybe? The honest answer is yes, this is socialized health insurance. That's what a health insurance run by the federal government is by definition. I'd like to point out to you, again, that any additional tax is a violation of my liberties and rights. I will have to pay a tax on my health insurance which will take my hard-earned money and give it to some low-life that refuses to take care of themself. That is ********. We do not need the nanny state, expecially a half-assed nanny state where we pay for healthcare yet still allow them to act as they please, further increasing that cost. Being the greatest na--- just joking...lol It is not forced health care. Socialization means government forced programs. It means there is not other options available but national healthcare. This is not socialized healthcare by any definition. So do you plan on giving me a reason why we need it? That was the actual intent of my post. This is essentially socialist health insurance in the making. This is step one: foot into the marketplace. I have yet to find a page that recants page 16 and I'm up to 4xx or something. But ignore that. Why do we need this? There are millions of people without health insurance that is a very valid reason. why doesn't the federal government make deals with state ACCCS programs instead of spending a trillion dollars on a bill with 13,000 pages that not one member of the house or senate has read? That could be done except that states can opt out of it and deny their constituents the healthcare and that would not be universal healthcare in that instance. You mean socialist health care! |
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Again this healthcare is not an infringement of anyones rights. It is not forced health insurance. It is an option that will be available. It is not socialized healthcare since it will not be the only healthcare on the list. If employers who cannot afford to carry insurance for their employees opt out of carrying health care at least the employees have this option. Nothing is perfect, nothing. There will be bugs and issues to work out but the fact that we need it and it is doable should be enough for us to be supportive. so can you give me a real reason yet why we need this that is based in fact and not emotion? Something that does not involve the phrase "we are the greatest nation in the world" maybe? The honest answer is yes, this is socialized health insurance. That's what a health insurance run by the federal government is by definition. I'd like to point out to you, again, that any additional tax is a violation of my liberties and rights. I will have to pay a tax on my health insurance which will take my hard-earned money and give it to some low-life that refuses to take care of themself. That is ********. We do not need the nanny state, expecially a half-assed nanny state where we pay for healthcare yet still allow them to act as they please, further increasing that cost. Being the greatest na--- just joking...lol It is not forced health care. Socialization means government forced programs. It means there is not other options available but national healthcare. This is not socialized healthcare by any definition. So do you plan on giving me a reason why we need it? That was the actual intent of my post. This is essentially socialist health insurance in the making. This is step one: foot into the marketplace. I have yet to find a page that recants page 16 and I'm up to 4xx or something. But ignore that. Why do we need this? There are millions of people without health insurance that is a very valid reason. why doesn't the federal government make deals with state ACCCS programs instead of spending a trillion dollars on a bill with 13,000 pages that not one member of the house or senate has read? That could be done except that states can opt out of it and deny their constituents the healthcare and that would not be universal healthcare in that instance. You mean socialist health care! No it is still an option, just making it available to all who need it. |
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Again this healthcare is not an infringement of anyones rights. It is not forced health insurance. It is an option that will be available. It is not socialized healthcare since it will not be the only healthcare on the list. If employers who cannot afford to carry insurance for their employees opt out of carrying health care at least the employees have this option. Nothing is perfect, nothing. There will be bugs and issues to work out but the fact that we need it and it is doable should be enough for us to be supportive. so can you give me a real reason yet why we need this that is based in fact and not emotion? Something that does not involve the phrase "we are the greatest nation in the world" maybe? The honest answer is yes, this is socialized health insurance. That's what a health insurance run by the federal government is by definition. I'd like to point out to you, again, that any additional tax is a violation of my liberties and rights. I will have to pay a tax on my health insurance which will take my hard-earned money and give it to some low-life that refuses to take care of themself. That is ********. We do not need the nanny state, expecially a half-assed nanny state where we pay for healthcare yet still allow them to act as they please, further increasing that cost. Being the greatest na--- just joking...lol It is not forced health care. Socialization means government forced programs. It means there is not other options available but national healthcare. This is not socialized healthcare by any definition. So do you plan on giving me a reason why we need it? That was the actual intent of my post. This is essentially socialist health insurance in the making. This is step one: foot into the marketplace. I have yet to find a page that recants page 16 and I'm up to 4xx or something. But ignore that. Why do we need this? There are millions of people without health insurance that is a very valid reason. why doesn't the federal government make deals with state ACCCS programs instead of spending a trillion dollars on a bill with 13,000 pages that not one member of the house or senate has read? That could be done except that states can opt out of it and deny their constituents the healthcare and that would not be universal healthcare in that instance. You mean socialist health care! No it is still an option, just making it available to all who need it. No its a socialist plan. He is a socialist! Socialists want the government to run everything! Besides he wants to take money from people who applied themselves and give it to (not all) bu alot of people who don't want to work. and it's going to cost about $1,000,000,000,000 and this jack butt wants to talk about Bush... |
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Again this healthcare is not an infringement of anyones rights. It is not forced health insurance. It is an option that will be available. It is not socialized healthcare since it will not be the only healthcare on the list. If employers who cannot afford to carry insurance for their employees opt out of carrying health care at least the employees have this option. Nothing is perfect, nothing. There will be bugs and issues to work out but the fact that we need it and it is doable should be enough for us to be supportive. so can you give me a real reason yet why we need this that is based in fact and not emotion? Something that does not involve the phrase "we are the greatest nation in the world" maybe? The honest answer is yes, this is socialized health insurance. That's what a health insurance run by the federal government is by definition. I'd like to point out to you, again, that any additional tax is a violation of my liberties and rights. I will have to pay a tax on my health insurance which will take my hard-earned money and give it to some low-life that refuses to take care of themself. That is ********. We do not need the nanny state, expecially a half-assed nanny state where we pay for healthcare yet still allow them to act as they please, further increasing that cost. Being the greatest na--- just joking...lol It is not forced health care. Socialization means government forced programs. It means there is not other options available but national healthcare. This is not socialized healthcare by any definition. So do you plan on giving me a reason why we need it? That was the actual intent of my post. This is essentially socialist health insurance in the making. This is step one: foot into the marketplace. I have yet to find a page that recants page 16 and I'm up to 4xx or something. But ignore that. Why do we need this? There are millions of people without health insurance that is a very valid reason. why doesn't the federal government make deals with state ACCCS programs instead of spending a trillion dollars on a bill with 13,000 pages that not one member of the house or senate has read? That could be done except that states can opt out of it and deny their constituents the healthcare and that would not be universal healthcare in that instance. You mean socialist health care! No it is still an option, just making it available to all who need it. No its a socialist plan. He is a socialist! Socialists want the government to run everything! Besides he wants to take money from people who applied themselves and give it to (not all) bu alot of people who don't want to work. and it's going to cost about $1,000,000,000,000 and this jack butt wants to talk about Bush... Personal feelings and inuendo with no facts to it. I have yet to see a socialist in office here in this country and probably never will before I die. Neither will you. |
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the majority of independents do not support this plan. I don't understand the title of your thread? LOL My father is an Independent that supports the plan. |
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