Topic: What is RELIGION?
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Thu 08/06/09 10:39 AM


Also, why post a bunch of bibble quotes? I'm pretty sure most of the posters here either have, or have access to a Bible. Personally, I keep mine next to The Satanic Bible. I like to watch the lightning arcing back and forth...


bibble quotes?


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Thu 08/06/09 10:43 AM
op,

Are you trying to convince me, or yourself?

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Thu 08/06/09 11:05 AM

the biggest joke in human history...
one can be a spiritual person without religion.


Not true at all. I have no religion and am spiritual. I believe in the spirit of life in general. Kind of like a life energy that effects everything around it. There is no omnipotent being or anything like that. There is the spirit or energy of life. Like all energy it effects the things around it in good or bad ways depending on which source inside itself that it utilizes. When you die this energy dispells and joins the energy of the universe.

So being spiritual without being religious is completely possible.

Religions are man made. Spirituality is how you look out at the world from inside of you.

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Thu 08/06/09 11:06 AM


the biggest joke in human history...
one can be a spiritual person without religion.


Not true at all. I have no religion and am spiritual. I believe in the spirit of life in general. Kind of like a life energy that effects everything around it. There is no omnipotent being or anything like that. There is the spirit or energy of life. Like all energy it effects the things around it in good or bad ways depending on which source inside itself that it utilizes. When you die this energy dispells and joins the energy of the universe.

So being spiritual without being religious is completely possible.

Religions are man made. Spirituality is how you look out at the world from inside of you.


Thats wat she said, i think u misread!

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Thu 08/06/09 11:07 AM

RELIGION IS PART OF EVERY PERSON’S LIFE REGARDLESS IF IT PERTAINS TO GOD OR NORMAL EVERYDAY ACTIVITIES; RELIGION IS SIMPLY THE THINGS THAT ONE DOSE ROUTINELY IN LIFE. EXAMPLES OF EVERYDAY RELIGIOUS ACTS MAYBE WORKING OUT, GROOMING, CLEANING ONES HOME, GOING TO WORK, ETC…, A PERSON MAY WORKOUT DAILY BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO BE OUT OF SHAPE, A PERSON GROOMS DAILY BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO LOOK SHABBY, A PERSON CLEANSES THEIR HOME SO THEY WON’T LIVE IN FILTH AND A PERSON GOES TO WORK SO THEY CAN HAVE MONEY; THESE THINGS MAY NOT SEEM TO BE RELIGIOUS, BUT THEY REALLY ARE. THE BASE MEANING OF THE WORD RELIGION IS “TO SET APART” OR “SEPARATE”, SO A PERSON WHO WORKS OUT IS SETTING THEM APART FROM BEING “OUT OF SHAPE” AND A PERSON GOES TO WORK DAILY TO SET THEMSELVES APART FROM BEING POOR.

IN THE BIBLE RELIGION PERTAINS TO THE HOLY LAW OF GOD, THESE LAWS ARE THE STANDARDS OF WHAT A PERSON SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT DO. WHEN ONE BECAMES BIBLICALLY RELIGIOUS HE IS SEEKING TO ATTAIN HOLINESS, TO BE SEEN IN THE EYES OF GOD AS BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE OR COMMON PERSON. ONE MAJOR RELIGIOUS TENEMENT IN THE BIBLE IS THE DIETARY LAW, A LAW THAT STATES A MAN SHOULD ONLY EAT “CLEAN FOODS”, SOME OF THESE FOODS ARE RUMINANT ANIMALS W/ CLIF HOVES SUCH AS COWS, SHEEP, AND GOATS, ONLY SEAFOOD (FISH) WITH FINS AND SCALES, AND CERTAIN BIRDS SUCH AS CHICKEN, TURKEY AND QUAIL TO NAME A FEW; ANIMALS SUCH A PIGS, DOGS, SHELLFISH, PREDATORILY BIRDS AMOUNG MANY OTHER THINGS ARE ALL RESTRICTED.

Leviticus 20:25": Ye shall therefore put difference between clean beasts and unclean, and between unclean fowls and clean: and ye shall not make your souls abominable by beast, or by fowl, or by any manner of living thing that creepeth on the ground, which I have separated from you as unclean. "26": And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine.

IN LEVITICUS 20:25-26 THE GOD OF ISRAEL IS TELLING HIS PEOPLE HE HAS SEPARATED THEM FROM ALL OTHER NATIONS ON THE EARTH, BECAUSE HE GAVE THEM THE LAW OF HOLINESS. THE LAW DEALS WITH 4 MAJOR ASPECTS OF LIFE; MORAL LAWS, CIVIL LAWS, CEREMONIAL LAWS, AND THE AFORE MENTIONED DIETARY LAW; THERE WAS ONCE A LAW FOR SACRIFICING BUT WITH THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF CHRIST JESUS IT WAS MADE VOID. THE GOD OF ISRAEL EXPLAINS THAT THIS LAW WOULD GIVE ADVANTAGE OVER ALL OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE THE LAWS WAS INTENDED TO ENHANCED THE CHARACTER OF THE NATION AS A WHOLE BY GIVING EACH INDIVIDUAL A GUIDELINE WHICH TO LIVE BY, ENSURING THE FUTURE WEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE. SIMPLY THE LAW WAS FOR OUR OWN GOOD.

Deuteronomy 4:5 : Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it. 6: Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people. 7: For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for? 8: And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day? 9: Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest thou forget the things which thine eyes have seen, and lest they depart from thy heart all the days of thy life: but teach them thy sons, and thy sons' sons;
Deuteronomy 6:24: And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day. 25: And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.

THE WHOLE OF THE LAW IS ENORMOUS AND VERY DETAILED, BUT JESUS CHRIST GAVE GREAT WISDOM ON THE LAW WHEN HE WAS ON EARTH, HE GIVES A PRACTICAL UNDERSTANDING ON THE LAW WHICH MADE IT SIMPLER TO FOLLOW BUT BY NO MEANS ELIMINATED IT.

Matthew 5:17: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18: For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19: Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 22:35": Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, "36": Master, which is the great commandment in the law? "37": Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. "38": This is the first and great commandment. "39": And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40": On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

CHRIST GAVE US PREFECT UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAW/ RELIGION IN MATTHEW 22:37-39 BECAUSE HIS ANSWER ENCOMPASSES THE TWO GOALS OF THE LAW/RELIGION WHICH ARE THE TRUE LOVE OF GOD AND TRUE LOVE OF NEIGHBOR WHICH ULTIMATELY GIVES ONE LOVE OF SELF.

TO LOVE GOD IS TO DO HIS WILL, HIS WILL IS WRITTEN IN THE HOLY LAW. THIS LAW TELLS US WE SHOULD NOT DO THINGS DETRIMENTAL TO OUR OWN OR OTHERS WELL BEING (MIND, BODY, SOUL), SUCH THINGS AS HOMOSEXUALITY, RAPE, MURDER, STEALING, ADDICTION, ETC…ARE ALL THINGS THAT ERODE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

1 John 5:2": By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. 3": For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

1 John 4:20": If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? 21": And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

PEOPLE WITHOUT SELF CONTROL ARE IN THE MOST NEED OF RELIGION/THE LAW,
BECAUSE BEING IGNORANT OF TEMPERANCE THERE DESTINY IS TO DESTROY THEMSELVES THROUGH OVER MUCH LIBERTY.

1 Corinthians 6:9: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Timothy 1:9": Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10": For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

MANY PEOPLE SEE RELIGION/THE LAW OF GOD AS SOMETHING THAT CHAINS THEM FROM ENLIGHTENMENT BUT THOSE WHO ARE WISE SEE RELIGION/THE LAW OF GOD AS A SCHOOL TEACHER THAT TAKES US FROM 1ST GRADE TROUGH GRAD SCHOOL, HELPING TRAIN OUR CONSCIENCE SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WALK WISELY THROUGH LIFE AND NOT AS OTHERS WHO CARE NOT OF THEIR OWN OR OTHERS FATE.

Galatians 3:24": Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster…

Romans, 12:2": And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

IN CONCLUSION TRUE RELIGION IS SIMPLY ONES SELF-CONTROL AND PERSONAL SACRIFICE TO THOSE OF HIS/HER COMMUNITY.

James 1:27": Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.



Religion is a man made concept so you can interpret it how you would like to but it is still a set of doctrines set by man to govern man.

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Thu 08/06/09 11:36 AM



the biggest joke in human history...
one can be a spiritual person without religion.


Not true at all. I have no religion and am spiritual. I believe in the spirit of life in general. Kind of like a life energy that effects everything around it. There is no omnipotent being or anything like that. There is the spirit or energy of life. Like all energy it effects the things around it in good or bad ways depending on which source inside itself that it utilizes. When you die this energy dispells and joins the energy of the universe.

So being spiritual without being religious is completely possible.

Religions are man made. Spirituality is how you look out at the world from inside of you.


Thats wat she said, i think u misread!


slaphead oops

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Thu 08/06/09 11:39 AM
Religion is whatever any person wants it to be.

A specific religion? That's a different story.

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Thu 08/06/09 03:10 PM


Religion is man made theories of belief systems, which ppl adopt in order to have a moral structure to their life.


if one needs that to have a moral structure, I sincerely hope they never lose it.


The Bible is God's Word, it was God-breathed, so God knows man pretty well. He knew that man would do what was right "in his own heart". Therefore, there is a HUGE need for moral structure, and that can only come truly through Christ, not a decision to be or do better.

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Thu 08/06/09 03:18 PM



the biggest joke in human history...
one can be a spiritual person without religion.


Not true at all. I have no religion and am spiritual. I believe in the spirit of life in general. Kind of like a life energy that effects everything around it. There is no omnipotent being or anything like that. There is the spirit or energy of life. Like all energy it effects the things around it in good or bad ways depending on which source inside itself that it utilizes. When you die this energy dispells and joins the energy of the universe.

So being spiritual without being religious is completely possible.

Religions are man made. Spirituality is how you look out at the world from inside of you.


Thats wat she said, i think u misread!


yea, that is what I said..

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Fri 08/07/09 10:55 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Fri 08/07/09 10:56 AM
I cannot find any definitions for religion that do not mention the supernatural, so Id have to disagree with the opening line the OP states.

# a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny; "he lost his faith but not his morality"
# an institution to express belief in a divine power; "he was raised in the Baptist religion"; "a member of his own faith contradicted him"



Therefore, there is a HUGE need for moral structure, and that can only come truly through Christ, not a decision to be or do better.

So only Christians are moral? LOL that is so easy to disprove that its hardly worth the time to respond.

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Fri 08/07/09 12:13 PM



Religion is man made theories of belief systems, which ppl adopt in order to have a moral structure to their life.


if one needs that to have a moral structure, I sincerely hope they never lose it.


The Bible is God's Word, it was God-breathed, so God knows man pretty well. He knew that man would do what was right "in his own heart". Therefore, there is a HUGE need for moral structure, and that can only come truly through Christ, not a decision to be or do better.


That would be an opinion, not based on evidence. And I would suggest that most true believers do what's "in his own heart" anyway. But through the magic of "forgiveness", feel no guilt about the harm they do. And therefore have no great incentive to not do harm.

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Fri 08/21/09 03:42 PM
I don't think that people have a power to do what is in their heart. People are so dependent on each other, they can do alwast nothing. So this limited to do person ability to do what is in the heart. PLUS, WHAT IF i WANT SOMETHING THAT CONTRADICTS RELIGION? wHY SHOULD i FOLLOW RELIGION. As i read before religion is crap, and I agree with it because religion creates a lot of senseless rules, it creates barriers between people, so the best way to be non-religious person, at least for me. For some people, though is good to e religious because they have certain type of character that fits for religion. Religion creates orde, morals, but it is illusionary. This is like a bridge which help not to fall to people who has no inner morals. Yes, religion makes people happy, it makes people better, but it is illusionary and it has a lot of senseless rules. So, this is not for me.

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Sat 08/22/09 12:08 AM
This is to everyone: CAN YOU HANDLE THE TRUTH!

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Sat 08/22/09 07:26 AM
Religion is any set of practices a person uses regularly to connect with the Divine.

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Sat 08/22/09 09:50 AM

Religion is any set of practices a person uses regularly to connect with the Divine.


I prefer to connect w/ people.

well....some people any way...

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Sat 08/22/09 02:15 PM


Religion is any set of practices a person uses regularly to connect with the Divine.


I prefer to connect w/ people.

well....some people any way...


I like to do both.

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Sat 08/22/09 03:02 PM
Edited by chuckyno on Sat 08/22/09 03:05 PM

the biggest joke in human history...
one can be a spiritual person without religion.


^^...................this

I promote this comment






im not here to change minds

its never good to talk about religion, soo please drop it

this is a love site, we don't want it turning into a hate site

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Sat 08/22/09 03:06 PM
Stop it now
before its too late

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Sat 08/22/09 03:08 PM
Near as I can tell religion is just another way the power elite keep the rest of society down. They get us aruing amongst ourselves about petty differences (because all religions are basically the same - this is good, that is bad and if you don't listen you suffer).

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Sat 08/22/09 03:17 PM
I agree that religion is a belief system. I think Jesus came not to establish a religion, but a spiritual kingdom where we join the family of God, not the religion of God.