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Topic: Almost Honest
tanyaann's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:03 AM
I have been having conversations lately about honesty.

How hard is it to say to someone, I am not interested in being in a relationship with you... I just want to hang out... have sex with you... whatever. And let the other person make a decision as to whether they want to be a part of it.

Instead those that don't speak honestly, lead other on for their own personal needs or wants.

I personally am tired of seeking relationship with individuals that can't be honest and try to justify it.

What are your thoughts? Are individuals incapable of being honest? Are all individuals not being honest just jerks? What are your thoughts?

Here is a lyric that kind of speaks to this:

Almost Honest - Josh Kelley
So in the meantime
You'll be resting on my mind
For the last time
I will leave myself behind
In the evening
Raise a glass and tell some lies
Make a pass, impress another girl
She's easy on the eyes

She was easy
And so was I

My reflection
In the window when I ride for Chicago
She is on the other side
Take a picture
Write a letter to my love

Well I was almost honest
I was almost honest

Been a long time
Since I lay with you in bed
Conversations, full of words you never said
I got your message
But I didn't hear the ringing bell
I gave into the loneliness
But I didn't give them nothing else

Which direction
Down this highway that I ride to Atlanta
She is on the other side
Take a picture
Write a letter to my love

I was almost honest
Well, I was almost honest

My reflection
In the window when I ride
Could not save us
But I swear to God I tried
Take a picture
Write a letter to my love

I was almost honest
But I was almost honest
Cause I was almost honest

franshade's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:05 AM
Hey sunshine - loaded question but here's my view.

some of us are brutally honest without being hurtful to others
some people hear what they want to hear not what is being said

so many different types of people out there, you just never know what type you will meet. Stay positive and always be true to yourself.


tanyaann's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:07 AM
Edited by tanyaann on Thu 07/30/09 10:08 AM

Hey sunshine - loaded question but here's my view.

some of us are brutally honest without being hurtful to others
some people hear what they want to hear not what is being said

so many different types of people out there, you just never know what type you will meet. Stay positive and always be true to yourself.




Always am. I guess I just have to find another 'brutally honest' person like myself, huh?

[oh and wasn't trying to make it a loaded question. it just has been something floating around lately and figured I would get mingler's opinions]

franshade's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:14 AM


Hey sunshine - loaded question but here's my view.

some of us are brutally honest without being hurtful to others
some people hear what they want to hear not what is being said

so many different types of people out there, you just never know what type you will meet. Stay positive and always be true to yourself.




Always am. I guess I just have to find another 'brutally honest' person like myself, huh?

[oh and wasn't trying to make it a loaded question. it just has been something floating around lately and figured I would get mingler's opinions]

maybe loaded wasn't the right wording -

I meant that to be honest is simple enough, but some people worry about coming off wrong, saying the wrong thing, some just truly dont care and lie.

While there are others that if they don't agree refuse to accept it, chose not to accept it, chose not to deal with it, find other causes to find fault with it, etc.




tanyaann's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:15 AM
No one else wants to wage in....


How about this... have you ever met someone liked them, but didn't like them enough to be serious. But you didn't make that clear and still slept with them. Did you feel bad afterwards? Or did you chalk it up to being just part of life? Or justify that you just gave into loneliness?

Or have you had it happen to you?


tanyaann's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:16 AM



Hey sunshine - loaded question but here's my view.

some of us are brutally honest without being hurtful to others
some people hear what they want to hear not what is being said

so many different types of people out there, you just never know what type you will meet. Stay positive and always be true to yourself.




Always am. I guess I just have to find another 'brutally honest' person like myself, huh?

[oh and wasn't trying to make it a loaded question. it just has been something floating around lately and figured I would get mingler's opinions]

maybe loaded wasn't the right wording -

I meant that to be honest is simple enough, but some people worry about coming off wrong, saying the wrong thing, some just truly dont care and lie.

While there are others that if they don't agree refuse to accept it, chose not to accept it, chose not to deal with it, find other causes to find fault with it, etc.






But to be dishonest is simple?

grneyedldy1967's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:17 AM
Edited by grneyedldy1967 on Thu 07/30/09 10:18 AM
I am one of those people that is so honest I'm blunt and to the point and can at times hurt someone's feelings because of it. But I'd rather someone be the same with me rather than feed me a bunch of bull. What gets me is when you are honest and they get mad about it!

robert1652's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:17 AM
Edited by robert1652 on Thu 07/30/09 10:18 AM
When one is honest they get angry about honesty
When one is dishonest they get angry about dishonesty
When one is a politician they get angry about slyness
When one is not committed they get angry about everything
When one is following priorities they get angry being second choice
What is one to do
Be totally comical

no photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:18 AM


Hey sunshine - loaded question but here's my view.

some of us are brutally honest without being hurtful to others
some people hear what they want to hear not what is being said

so many different types of people out there, you just never know what type you will meet. Stay positive and always be true to yourself.




Always am. I guess I just have to find another 'brutally honest' person like myself, huh?

[oh and wasn't trying to make it a loaded question. it just has been something floating around lately and figured I would get mingler's opinions]Yes, it does seem that alot of men are not honest when it comes to a relationship and that sex is definatley thier objective. The reason that they appear to lie is that they want the sex without the attachments and work this involeved in maintain a healthy relationship. So, it is much easier to get what you want from lieing to you that, Oh I love you ect. and you are the greatest thing that ever happened ect....oh, I want to marry you but I am not ready and the list goes on an on....mean while you are gettig strung out and lead on the believe that everything will work out...and the truth is he is probably already planning his next conquest. These actions are childish and teenager like...I am sure somewhere out there you find a man who is true to his heart and will be true to you as well..be safe and good luck out there:smile:

franshade's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:18 AM

But to be dishonest is simple?


I'd say yes, honesty and dishonesty is simple enough.

says a lot about a persons character which one they chose but yes I believe they are both simple enough.

tanyaann's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:19 AM

I am one of those people that are so honest I'm blunt and to the point and can at times hurt someone's feelings because of it. But I'd rather someone be the same with me rather than feed me a bunch of bull. What gets me is when you are honest and they get mad about it!


I am the same way, but have learned who to be hard line honest with and others to soften it (not lie, but just don't tell it straight out to them)

My friend Jeff called me last night because I will tell him how it is... now if he wants to be lied to or sugar-coated he will not always call me.

franshade's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:19 AM

When one is honest they get angry about honesty
When one is dishonest they get angry about dishonesty
When one is a politician they get angry about slyness
When one is not committed they get angry about everything
When one is following priorities they get angry being second choice
What is one to do
Be totally comical

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tanyaann's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:20 AM

When one is honest they get angry about honesty
When one is dishonest they get angry about dishonesty
When one is a politician they get angry about slyness
When one is not committed they get angry about everything
When one is following priorities they get angry being second choice
What is one to do
Be totally comical


flowerforyou Robert! smooched

grneyedldy1967's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:20 AM


I am one of those people that are so honest I'm blunt and to the point and can at times hurt someone's feelings because of it. But I'd rather someone be the same with me rather than feed me a bunch of bull. What gets me is when you are honest and they get mad about it!


I am the same way, but have learned who to be hard line honest with and others to soften it (not lie, but just don't tell it straight out to them)

My friend Jeff called me last night because I will tell him how it is... now if he wants to be lied to or sugar-coated he will not always call me.


LOL I have friends that will call me too because they know I will give it to them straight and still love me for it!

tanyaann's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:21 AM
Thanks for your comment, trunner69!

franshade's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:22 AM

LOL I have friends that will call me too because they know I will give it to them straight and still love me for it!

and those are the ones I consider my true friends.

while I try and use tact (with some people) I do speak honestly

tanyaann's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:22 AM


LOL I have friends that will call me too because they know I will give it to them straight and still love me for it!

and those are the ones I consider my true friends.

while I try and use tact (with some people) I do speak honestly


:thumbsup:

tanyaann's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:25 AM
Here is another theory I have....

(and I know its one-sided, don't jump on me, it could go both ways!]

If a guy would just be up front to whether he was just looking for a roll in the sack or something more.... there would still be women willing to just have the roll in the sack. And it would spare hurting those that aren't.

grneyedldy1967's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:26 AM

Here is another theory I have....

(and I know its one-sided, don't jump on me, it could go both ways!]

If a guy would just be up front to whether he was just looking for a roll in the sack or something more.... there would still be women willing to just have the roll in the sack. And it would spare hurting those that aren't.


I can't help but agree with you girl!! That is all some people want or need so why not be honest about it?!

robert1652's photo
Thu 07/30/09 10:26 AM


When one is honest they get angry about honesty
When one is dishonest they get angry about dishonesty
When one is a politician they get angry about slyness
When one is not committed they get angry about everything
When one is following priorities they get angry being second choice
What is one to do
Be totally comical


flowerforyou Robert! smooched
I am totally comical with you

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