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Topic: What is your Native American Astrology sign?
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Sat 07/25/09 10:40 PM

Thank you so much for the readings, I just read them to my daughter, they were very accurate in many areas, but I think the "slow to anger" on my daughter's is a little off,laugh laugh. The grandkids did sound quite accurate.

I really appreciate you doing these.

Now my daughter asks if you would mind doing her partner's,
his birthdate is 12/13. Thank you so much. Take care.


Soon I will be doing your whole communitylaugh

Just joking. I will look to seedrinker

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Sat 07/25/09 10:47 PM
8/9 and i like stuff like astrology and mythology kudos

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Sun 07/26/09 12:09 AM


Thank you so much for the readings, I just read them to my daughter, they were very accurate in many areas, but I think the "slow to anger" on my daughter's is a little off,laugh laugh. The grandkids did sound quite accurate.

I really appreciate you doing these.

Now my daughter asks if you would mind doing her partner's,
his birthdate is 12/13. Thank you so much. Take care.


Soon I will be doing your whole communitylaugh

Just joking. I will look to seedrinker


So true, Russ is actually 1/2 Cherokee and studies the Native American culture. He does beading, makes breast plates, drums, etc. I have earrings he made out of elk teeth he ground down to look like feathers with a piece of abalone shell behind them for color (really pretty). Will be interesting to see what his says about him.

Thank you again for your time, very much appreciated. flowerforyou

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Sun 07/26/09 12:22 AM
Edited by smiless on Sun 07/26/09 12:53 AM



Thank you so much for the readings, I just read them to my daughter, they were very accurate in many areas, but I think the "slow to anger" on my daughter's is a little off,laugh laugh. The grandkids did sound quite accurate.

I really appreciate you doing these.

Now my daughter asks if you would mind doing her partner's,
his birthdate is 12/13. Thank you so much. Take care.


Soon I will be doing your whole communitylaugh

Just joking. I will look to seedrinker


So true, Russ is actually 1/2 Cherokee and studies the Native American culture. He does beading, makes breast plates, drums, etc. I have earrings he made out of elk teeth he ground down to look like feathers with a piece of abalone shell behind them for color (really pretty). Will be interesting to see what his says about him.

Thank you again for your time, very much appreciated. flowerforyou



Oh well Russ should know alot about Native American Spirituality, especially of the Cherokee way. It is a country of its own now in North Carolina or South Carolina. I am not sure which, but they have their autonomy/soveighty and individual land inside a state now. I am very proud of them for this.

Now the Miccussokee Seminole Natives(the tribe I visit all the time) have never lost their way of life to the Americans. They are one of the few that have defended their area against American Cavalry to a point that the Americans gave up the fight and left them alone. One reason is because they didn't like to go to the swamps to fight at the time. Very interesting part of history if you ask me.

I must remind you though and I am sure Russ will agree is that the Natives didn't see the lands as a piece of property belonging to anyone particular. Most tribes (if not all) believe that we(regardless of who) are but a strand of a big web and must live together as one respecting everyone and everything that lives with it. It wasn't brought to attention of the significance of ownership to the natives when the Europeans came claiming the land to themselves that such disputes happened.

I am not saying natives didn't have their own problems and disputes, but not in such a large quantity or difficulty that they couldn't resolve them peacefully amongst other tribes until the Europeans came. I am talking specifically about the northern native americans. The central and south american natives is a whole different story!

To get an idea of their philosophy as a whole for primarily all of the natives across the country, I found some interesting wisdom from a chief in the NorthWest.

This is a poem or speech given by Chief Seattle to Governor Isaac Stevens of the Washington Territory in 1855.

Teach your children
What we have taught our children -
That the earth is our mother.

Whatever befalls the earth
Befalls the sons and daughters of earth.
If men spit upon the ground,
They spit upon themselves.
This we know.
The earth does not belong to us;
We belong to the earth.
This we know.
All things are connected
Like the blood which unites one family.
All things are connected.
Whatever befalls the earth
Befalls the sons and daughters of the earth.
We did not weave the web of life;
We are merely a strand in it.
Whatever we do to the web,
We do to ourselves...

I will make a introductory reading, but you should know that a real reading provides alot more information then what I present and also a spiritual walk to find a lifetime animal totem.

Nevertheless, it is a beautiful culture that will always stay deep in my heart for as long as I live.

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Wed 07/29/09 08:29 AM


Hi John I am born in the year of the monkey (Chinese) and a leo, dob: Aug 4th 1956


Well hello there beautiful.flowerforyou

Here it is ....

The Sturgeon

Clan - Thunderbird
Spirit keeper - The south
Moon - Ripe-berries Moon
Crystal or mineral - Garnet and iron
Tree or plant - Raspberry
Color - red

The sturgeon is considered to be the king of the fishes. It is a primitive fish that probably existed on earth long before the dinosaurs disappeared, so it has a long history. The sturgeon comes in a variety of sizes. Sturgeons found in the Great Lakes area were considered teh royalty of fishes among Native Americans. The Ojibwa people believe that the sturgeon represents depth and strength.

Working on a spiritual level with the sturgeon can teach you about determination, perseverance, depth, and knowledge.

This sign actually links to two different kinds of fish according to which Native American tradition one follows. The other fish is the salmon. This is another truly royal member of the fish family, as it is valued as a food item by just about everybody. Now, of course, salmon are farmed, but in the past, it took real skill to hunt and catch the salmon. even more so when one realizes that fishermen were frequently in competition with the grizzly bear for these prize fish. This fish is also associated with perseverance, as shown by its determination to swim upstream in order to spawn.

Individuals born under this sign are considered to be oen of the strongest signs in Native American astrology. They are dominant, spontaneious, creative, and extroverted. These people were born to lead. If people born under the sign are ver part of a team building exercise, just watch what happens. The idea of buckling down and being part of a team is aline to these individuals, so while they may pretend to be interested in the concept, sooner or later (usually sooner) they will put their foot down and take charge. At this point, they will relax and become happy, while everyone falls in behind them in an equally relaxed and happy manner. Now the team will happily achieve any task that you can dream up for them.

People born under this sign possess grace and dignity, and they have an expansive personality. Abmitious and strong willed, they are positive and confident in their abilities. These people know what htey want in life and they get it. They are not easily daunted, so they persist through the most formidable of circumstances.

Individuals born under this sign can be stubborn; they often refuse to listen to another persons opinions. Because of their positive nature, they will expect the best, and when things don't turn out as they anticipated, they react immediately and badly. If things go again them, their confidence can evaporate, and they can become extremely downhearted. At this time they need a loved one or trust friend to keep reminding them that they are valuable and that their opinions and actions are not wrong. Fortunately, their bouts of depression dissipate fairly quickly and these individuals soon recover their usual cheerful and demonstrative nature.

Thank you John...that is pretty interesting! I know I can always rely on you to brighten my day!

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Wed 07/29/09 09:23 AM



Hi John I am born in the year of the monkey (Chinese) and a leo, dob: Aug 4th 1956


Well hello there beautiful.flowerforyou

Here it is ....

The Sturgeon

Clan - Thunderbird
Spirit keeper - The south
Moon - Ripe-berries Moon
Crystal or mineral - Garnet and iron
Tree or plant - Raspberry
Color - red

The sturgeon is considered to be the king of the fishes. It is a primitive fish that probably existed on earth long before the dinosaurs disappeared, so it has a long history. The sturgeon comes in a variety of sizes. Sturgeons found in the Great Lakes area were considered teh royalty of fishes among Native Americans. The Ojibwa people believe that the sturgeon represents depth and strength.

Working on a spiritual level with the sturgeon can teach you about determination, perseverance, depth, and knowledge.

This sign actually links to two different kinds of fish according to which Native American tradition one follows. The other fish is the salmon. This is another truly royal member of the fish family, as it is valued as a food item by just about everybody. Now, of course, salmon are farmed, but in the past, it took real skill to hunt and catch the salmon. even more so when one realizes that fishermen were frequently in competition with the grizzly bear for these prize fish. This fish is also associated with perseverance, as shown by its determination to swim upstream in order to spawn.

Individuals born under this sign are considered to be oen of the strongest signs in Native American astrology. They are dominant, spontaneious, creative, and extroverted. These people were born to lead. If people born under the sign are ver part of a team building exercise, just watch what happens. The idea of buckling down and being part of a team is aline to these individuals, so while they may pretend to be interested in the concept, sooner or later (usually sooner) they will put their foot down and take charge. At this point, they will relax and become happy, while everyone falls in behind them in an equally relaxed and happy manner. Now the team will happily achieve any task that you can dream up for them.

People born under this sign possess grace and dignity, and they have an expansive personality. Abmitious and strong willed, they are positive and confident in their abilities. These people know what htey want in life and they get it. They are not easily daunted, so they persist through the most formidable of circumstances.

Individuals born under this sign can be stubborn; they often refuse to listen to another persons opinions. Because of their positive nature, they will expect the best, and when things don't turn out as they anticipated, they react immediately and badly. If things go again them, their confidence can evaporate, and they can become extremely downhearted. At this time they need a loved one or trust friend to keep reminding them that they are valuable and that their opinions and actions are not wrong. Fortunately, their bouts of depression dissipate fairly quickly and these individuals soon recover their usual cheerful and demonstrative nature.

Thank you John...that is pretty interesting! I know I can always rely on you to brighten my day!


Your compliment has also brighten my day. Thank youflowerforyou

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Wed 07/29/09 09:49 AM
Jumping up and down... do me, do me... hee hee hee

7/4

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Wed 07/29/09 09:53 AM
6/28 If you are still doing these and thank you I love Native American stuff !

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Wed 07/29/09 09:56 AM

8/9 and i like stuff like astrology and mythology kudos


and here it is ...

The Sturgeon

Clan - Thunderbird
Spirit keeper - The south
Moon - Ripe-berries Moon
Crystal or mineral - Garnet and iron
Tree or plant - Raspberry
Color - red

The sturgeon is considered to be the king of the fishes. It is a primitive fish that probably existed on earth long before the dinosaurs disappeared, so it has a long history. The sturgeon comes in a variety of sizes. Sturgeons found in the Great Lakes area were considered teh royalty of fishes among Native Americans. The Ojibwa people believe that the sturgeon represents depth and strength.

Working on a spiritual level with the sturgeon can teach you about determination, perseverance, depth, and knowledge.

This sign actually links to two different kinds of fish according to which Native American tradition one follows. The other fish is the salmon. This is another truly royal member of the fish family, as it is valued as a food item by just about everybody. Now, of course, salmon are farmed, but in the past, it took real skill to hunt and catch the salmon. even more so when one realizes that fishermen were frequently in competition with the grizzly bear for these prize fish. This fish is also associated with perseverance, as shown by its determination to swim upstream in order to spawn.

Individuals born under this sign are considered to be oen of the strongest signs in Native American astrology. They are dominant, spontaneious, creative, and extroverted. These people were born to lead. If people born under the sign are ver part of a team building exercise, just watch what happens. The idea of buckling down and being part of a team is aline to these individuals, so while they may pretend to be interested in the concept, sooner or later (usually sooner) they will put their foot down and take charge. At this point, they will relax and become happy, while everyone falls in behind them in an equally relaxed and happy manner. Now the team will happily achieve any task that you can dream up for them.

People born under this sign possess grace and dignity, and they have an expansive personality. Abmitious and strong willed, they are positive and confident in their abilities. These people know what htey want in life and they get it. They are not easily daunted, so they persist through the most formidable of circumstances.

Individuals born under this sign can be stubborn; they often refuse to listen to another persons opinions. Because of their positive nature, they will expect the best, and when things don't turn out as they anticipated, they react immediately and badly. If things go again them, their confidence can evaporate, and they can become extremely downhearted. At this time they need a loved one or trust friend to keep reminding them that they are valuable and that their opinions and actions are not wrong. Fortunately, their bouts of depression dissipate fairly quickly and these individuals soon recover their usual cheerful and demonstrative nature.

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Wed 07/29/09 09:57 AM

Jumping up and down... do me, do me... hee hee hee

7/4


and here it is ....

The Flicker

Clan - Frog
Spirit Keeper - The south
Moon - Strong Sun Moon
Crystal or mineral - Carnelian
Tree or plant - Wild rose
Color - pink

The flicker is a beautiful colored bird. There are two kinds of flicker int he United States. The yellow-shafted flicker, found in the east, and the red-shafted flicker, found west of the Great Plains. Both types can be seen on farms and even suburubs. Flickers are drummers who play their songs on wood. Usually they drum on trees, but they can also drum on wooden houses, sometimes to extract insects, but sometimes just for the sheer joy of it. The flicker displays a magnificent talent for music!

Working spiritually with the flicker can teach you about communicating, music, joy, nurturing, courage, protection, and your connection with the universe.

Individuals born under the sign of the flicker, one of the most perplexing signs, can range from timid, shy, dull, and withdrawn to brilliant, friendly, and famous. They can have a wide range of emtoions, and they possess strong parental instincts. Fundamentally, people born under this sign are conservative and home loving by nature. They appreciate the security of a home base to which to retire when the stresses of life become too much to bear.

Individuals born under the sign of the flicker can appear uncompromising and obstinate, but this stance is often a facade that they use to hide insecurity. Their loved ones may see a different character, one with sympathy and sensitivity to others. In their personal relationships, these people are often a mixture of toughness and tenderness. They can be emotional, romantic, and loyal, on one side, and possessive and moody, on the other. When it comes to their love ones, especially small children and pets, nobody can be more caring.

Those born under the flicker sign can have closed minds, they can be opinionated, and they never forget an injury. They will also never allow others to forget an error. They are led by their emotions, and they will either be the best of the worst of friends. The overall nature of these individuals is deeply emotional. Although reserved, they possess sensitivity and sympathy. Rarely will they stand on pretence. What appears to be out in front is nothing more than a protective shell, but within its tough armor often resides an intuitive and needy individual who yearns for a deep exhange of love and understanding.

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Wed 07/29/09 09:57 AM

6/28 If you are still doing these and thank you I love Native American stuff !


and here it is ...

The Flicker

Clan - Frog
Spirit Keeper - The south
Moon - Strong Sun Moon
Crystal or mineral - Carnelian
Tree or plant - Wild rose
Color - pink

The flicker is a beautiful colored bird. There are two kinds of flicker int he United States. The yellow-shafted flicker, found in the east, and the red-shafted flicker, found west of the Great Plains. Both types can be seen on farms and even suburubs. Flickers are drummers who play their songs on wood. Usually they drum on trees, but they can also drum on wooden houses, sometimes to extract insects, but sometimes just for the sheer joy of it. The flicker displays a magnificent talent for music!

Working spiritually with the flicker can teach you about communicating, music, joy, nurturing, courage, protection, and your connection with the universe.

Individuals born under the sign of the flicker, one of the most perplexing signs, can range from timid, shy, dull, and withdrawn to brilliant, friendly, and famous. They can have a wide range of emtoions, and they possess strong parental instincts. Fundamentally, people born under this sign are conservative and home loving by nature. They appreciate the security of a home base to which to retire when the stresses of life become too much to bear.

Individuals born under the sign of the flicker can appear uncompromising and obstinate, but this stance is often a facade that they use to hide insecurity. Their loved ones may see a different character, one with sympathy and sensitivity to others. In their personal relationships, these people are often a mixture of toughness and tenderness. They can be emotional, romantic, and loyal, on one side, and possessive and moody, on the other. When it comes to their love ones, especially small children and pets, nobody can be more caring.

Those born under the flicker sign can have closed minds, they can be opinionated, and they never forget an injury. They will also never allow others to forget an error. They are led by their emotions, and they will either be the best of the worst of friends. The overall nature of these individuals is deeply emotional. Although reserved, they possess sensitivity and sympathy. Rarely will they stand on pretence. What appears to be out in front is nothing more than a protective shell, but within its tough armor often resides an intuitive and needy individual who yearns for a deep exhange of love and understanding.

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Wed 07/29/09 10:07 AM
Thank you smiles that made my day ! Pretty darn accurate too I might add !

Mystique42's photo
Wed 07/29/09 10:19 AM


Jumping up and down... do me, do me... hee hee hee

7/4


and here it is ....

The Flicker

Clan - Frog
Spirit Keeper - The south
Moon - Strong Sun Moon
Crystal or mineral - Carnelian
Tree or plant - Wild rose
Color - pink

The flicker is a beautiful colored bird. There are two kinds of flicker int he United States. The yellow-shafted flicker, found in the east, and the red-shafted flicker, found west of the Great Plains. Both types can be seen on farms and even suburubs. Flickers are drummers who play their songs on wood. Usually they drum on trees, but they can also drum on wooden houses, sometimes to extract insects, but sometimes just for the sheer joy of it. The flicker displays a magnificent talent for music!

Working spiritually with the flicker can teach you about communicating, music, joy, nurturing, courage, protection, and your connection with the universe.

Individuals born under the sign of the flicker, one of the most perplexing signs, can range from timid, shy, dull, and withdrawn to brilliant, friendly, and famous. They can have a wide range of emtoions, and they possess strong parental instincts. Fundamentally, people born under this sign are conservative and home loving by nature. They appreciate the security of a home base to which to retire when the stresses of life become too much to bear.

Individuals born under the sign of the flicker can appear uncompromising and obstinate, but this stance is often a facade that they use to hide insecurity. Their loved ones may see a different character, one with sympathy and sensitivity to others. In their personal relationships, these people are often a mixture of toughness and tenderness. They can be emotional, romantic, and loyal, on one side, and possessive and moody, on the other. When it comes to their love ones, especially small children and pets, nobody can be more caring.

Those born under the flicker sign can have closed minds, they can be opinionated, and they never forget an injury. They will also never allow others to forget an error. They are led by their emotions, and they will either be the best of the worst of friends. The overall nature of these individuals is deeply emotional. Although reserved, they possess sensitivity and sympathy. Rarely will they stand on pretence. What appears to be out in front is nothing more than a protective shell, but within its tough armor often resides an intuitive and needy individual who yearns for a deep exhange of love and understanding.


THANK YOU! SOUNDS QUITE A BIT LIKE ME. :smile:

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Wed 07/29/09 11:55 AM
laugh laugh It was my pleasurelaugh laugh drinker

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Sat 08/01/09 02:16 AM
When you get a chance would you do Russ' sign? He is 12/13, the information you wrote above is very interesting. I printed it out for him. I am very curious to see where he falls and how accurate it is. Thank you so much.

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Sat 08/01/09 02:17 AM
Oh and that article written by Chief Seattle, I live about 3 hours from Seattle. He was quite famous in this area obviously. Take care.

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Sat 08/01/09 09:39 AM

Oh and that article written by Chief Seattle, I live about 3 hours from Seattle. He was quite famous in this area obviously. Take care.


I actually lived in Tacoma for 3 years and miss the environment and people. Had a great time there. drinker

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