Topic: What is your Native American Astrology sign?
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Fri 07/24/09 09:18 AM

What an interesting thread. Thanks for enlightening me on Native American astrology. You do us all a great service.

If you have the time- December 20th please.


Thank you for your kindnessflowerforyou

and here it is ...

You are of the Elk for the Native Americans.

Clan - Thunderbird
Spirit Keeper - Spirit Keeper of the West
Moon - Long-snows Moon
Crystal or mineral - Obsidian
Tree or plant - Black Spruce
Color - Black

The elk is the largest and most regal member of the deer family, and its large antlers enhance its stately appearance. The elk lives in the woodlands. They seem to have a sense of responsiblity, because when the ground is covered with heavy snow, elks will take turns breaking up the snow to create a trail for others to follow. Elks often prance around or break into a gallop of joy, and can run at speeds of up to thirty miles per hour for short distances.

The elk has few enemies. Cougars, bears, and wolves will sometimes succeed in bringing down a sick or ederly animal, but no animal is to match for a bull in his prime. Before the start of the twentieth century, most elk were slaughtered, and frequently the only reason for killing them was to make two of their teeth into jewels!

People born under the sign of the elk need to guard against being overly argumentative and erratic or difficult when in intimate relationships. If you choose to work with the elk on a spiritual level, you will earn about strength, responsiblity, joy, speed, and protection. The elk represents insight, independence, and fearlessness.

Individuals who are born under the sign of the elk have a ntuarlly positive outlook on life and are enterprising and full of energy and vitality. Versatile and adventurous, they are eager to expand their range beyond the comfortable and familiar. They enjoy travel and exploring and their minds are continually searching for new experiences. They are ambitious and optimistic folk, and while they can be self-pitying at times, they are the first to admit that luck is often on their side.

People born under this sign are idealists, and this trait seems to keep them going when tye face disappointments. They are believers and they are willing to fight for their beliefs. They are both loyal and independent, and they manage to balance both traits. Keen students, they are always on the lookout for new experiences. Often intuitive and original thinkers, these individuals are better at adapting than inventing. They work well in collaboration with others.

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Fri 07/24/09 09:25 AM


OH oh oh oh me! I am very curious!

9/21


and here it is ...

The Grizzly Bear

Clan - turtle
Spirit Keeper - The South
Moon - Harvest Moon
Crystal or mineral - Amethyst
Tree or plant - Violet
Color - purple

The grizzly bear is considered a gentle and yet powerful animal. Grizzly bears make their dens in holes, in caves, beneath buildings, or beneath waterfalls. They are generally careful and quiet, and they eat anything they can get their paws on. Once they reach adulthood, their only enemies are humans and the only dangers they face are forest fires. Bears are naturally curious, and they move slowly, taking in everything around them. They take time to watch and learn from the things they see around them. During their time of hibernation, the females have to be awake to nurse their young, but the males usually continue to sleep.

To Native Americans, the bear is a very special animal. Many legends of the animal world recognize them as the spirit keepers and the head of the animal council. In most tribes the bear represents medicine, leadership, and defense of the clan. If you carry out spiritual work with the bear, you can learn about deliberation, pleasure, observation, slow and steady movement, strength, healing, and teaching.

Individuals born under the sign of the grizzly bear are naturally fastidious regarding cleanliness, hygiene, and health. In this respect, as in all others, they strive for perfection. People born under this sign have attractive personalities and are often witty and charming. Others regard them as efficient, shrewd, and logical. Nevertheless, those born under this sign often feel as though they are not good enough. Some of these feelings may be holdover from a childhood during which others in the family were valued more highly or where these individuals were made to feel worthless.

People borun under the grizzly bear sign seldom seek the spotlight; they are somewhat introverted, and they usually prefer to work behind the scenes. This is actually a strength rather than a weakness, because these painstaking types are just as valuabe as the "stars" of this world.

Typical people born under this sign are always immaculate and carry themselves well, projecting an aura of dignity and self-assurance. They are always well groomed and stylish Natural born analyst, they strive for perfection in every area of their lives. They find it hard to handle criticism, probably because they are already far too hard on themselves.


Pretty good. But my hair is horrible today... I am wearing an old t-shirt and pair of jeans and sandles to work... It's that high fashion! LOL

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Fri 07/24/09 09:29 AM
BTW, Thank you! You know that I adore you! flowerforyou

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Fri 07/24/09 09:45 AM
happy November 24, 1968waving

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Fri 07/24/09 09:54 AM

BTW, Thank you! You know that I adore you! flowerforyou


flowerforyou laugh flowerforyou

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Fri 07/24/09 09:58 AM

happy November 24, 1968waving



Hello beautiful.flowerforyou Well here it is.

You are of the Elk for the Native Americans.

Clan - Thunderbird
Spirit Keeper - Spirit Keeper of the West
Moon - Long-snows Moon
Crystal or mineral - Obsidian
Tree or plant - Black Spruce
Color - Black

The elk is the largest and most regal member of the deer family, and its large antlers enhance its stately appearance. The elk lives in the woodlands. They seem to have a sense of responsiblity, because when the ground is covered with heavy snow, elks will take turns breaking up the snow to create a trail for others to follow. Elks often prance around or break into a gallop of joy, and can run at speeds of up to thirty miles per hour for short distances.

The elk has few enemies. Cougars, bears, and wolves will sometimes succeed in bringing down a sick or ederly animal, but no animal is to match for a bull in his prime. Before the start of the twentieth century, most elk were slaughtered, and frequently the only reason for killing them was to make two of their teeth into jewels!

People born under the sign of the elk need to guard against being overly argumentative and erratic or difficult when in intimate relationships. If you choose to work with the elk on a spiritual level, you will earn about strength, responsiblity, joy, speed, and protection. The elk represents insight, independence, and fearlessness.

Individuals who are born under the sign of the elk have a ntuarlly positive outlook on life and are enterprising and full of energy and vitality. Versatile and adventurous, they are eager to expand their range beyond the comfortable and familiar. They enjoy travel and exploring and their minds are continually searching for new experiences. They are ambitious and optimistic folk, and while they can be self-pitying at times, they are the first to admit that luck is often on their side.

People born under this sign are idealists, and this trait seems to keep them going when tye face disappointments. They are believers and they are willing to fight for their beliefs. They are both loyal and independent, and they manage to balance both traits. Keen students, they are always on the lookout for new experiences. Often intuitive and original thinkers, these individuals are better at adapting than inventing. They work well in collaboration with others.

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Fri 07/24/09 10:08 AM


happy November 24, 1968waving

Hello beautiful.flowerforyou Well here it is.

You are of the Elk for the Native Americans.

Clan - Thunderbird
Spirit Keeper - Spirit Keeper of the West
Moon - Long-snows Moon
Crystal or mineral - Obsidian
Tree or plant - Black Spruce
Color - Black

The elk is the largest and most regal member of the deer family, and its large antlers enhance its stately appearance. The elk lives in the woodlands. They seem to have a sense of responsiblity, because when the ground is covered with heavy snow, elks will take turns breaking up the snow to create a trail for others to follow. Elks often prance around or break into a gallop of joy, and can run at speeds of up to thirty miles per hour for short distances.

The elk has few enemies. Cougars, bears, and wolves will sometimes succeed in bringing down a sick or ederly animal, but no animal is to match for a bull in his prime. Before the start of the twentieth century, most elk were slaughtered, and frequently the only reason for killing them was to make two of their teeth into jewels!

People born under the sign of the elk need to guard against being overly argumentative and erratic or difficult when in intimate relationships. If you choose to work with the elk on a spiritual level, you will earn about strength, responsiblity, joy, speed, and protection. The elk represents insight, independence, and fearlessness.

Individuals who are born under the sign of the elk have a ntuarlly positive outlook on life and are enterprising and full of energy and vitality. Versatile and adventurous, they are eager to expand their range beyond the comfortable and familiar. They enjoy travel and exploring and their minds are continually searching for new experiences. They are ambitious and optimistic folk, and while they can be self-pitying at times, they are the first to admit that luck is often on their side.

People born under this sign are idealists, and this trait seems to keep them going when tye face disappointments. They are believers and they are willing to fight for their beliefs. They are both loyal and independent, and they manage to balance both traits. Keen students, they are always on the lookout for new experiences. Often intuitive and original thinkers, these individuals are better at adapting than inventing. They work well in collaboration with others.


Wow! That was fast!

I was curious if you’d come up with the right one… you did. Ok, I shouldn’t say “the right one”, but the same one my Great-Grandmother had told me. She was Crowe and I wondered if it would be the same even with a different tribe.

Anyway, thank you again. flowers

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Fri 07/24/09 11:00 AM



happy November 24, 1968waving

Hello beautiful.flowerforyou Well here it is.

You are of the Elk for the Native Americans.

Clan - Thunderbird
Spirit Keeper - Spirit Keeper of the West
Moon - Long-snows Moon
Crystal or mineral - Obsidian
Tree or plant - Black Spruce
Color - Black

The elk is the largest and most regal member of the deer family, and its large antlers enhance its stately appearance. The elk lives in the woodlands. They seem to have a sense of responsiblity, because when the ground is covered with heavy snow, elks will take turns breaking up the snow to create a trail for others to follow. Elks often prance around or break into a gallop of joy, and can run at speeds of up to thirty miles per hour for short distances.

The elk has few enemies. Cougars, bears, and wolves will sometimes succeed in bringing down a sick or ederly animal, but no animal is to match for a bull in his prime. Before the start of the twentieth century, most elk were slaughtered, and frequently the only reason for killing them was to make two of their teeth into jewels!

People born under the sign of the elk need to guard against being overly argumentative and erratic or difficult when in intimate relationships. If you choose to work with the elk on a spiritual level, you will earn about strength, responsiblity, joy, speed, and protection. The elk represents insight, independence, and fearlessness.

Individuals who are born under the sign of the elk have a ntuarlly positive outlook on life and are enterprising and full of energy and vitality. Versatile and adventurous, they are eager to expand their range beyond the comfortable and familiar. They enjoy travel and exploring and their minds are continually searching for new experiences. They are ambitious and optimistic folk, and while they can be self-pitying at times, they are the first to admit that luck is often on their side.

People born under this sign are idealists, and this trait seems to keep them going when tye face disappointments. They are believers and they are willing to fight for their beliefs. They are both loyal and independent, and they manage to balance both traits. Keen students, they are always on the lookout for new experiences. Often intuitive and original thinkers, these individuals are better at adapting than inventing. They work well in collaboration with others.


Wow! That was fast!

I was curious if you’d come up with the right one… you did. Ok, I shouldn’t say “the right one”, but the same one my Great-Grandmother had told me. She was Crowe and I wondered if it would be the same even with a different tribe.

Anyway, thank you again. flowers



You are welcome. Actually it is much more complicated then this, but this would qualify for the basic introductory of the Native American Astrology readings.

The Clan, Spirit Keeper, Moon, Crystal, Tree, and color each have a long detailed reading for the individual. That is alot of work, so I just want to keep it basic. Thank you for the opportunity. flowerforyou

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Fri 07/24/09 11:47 AM


What an interesting thread. Thanks for enlightening me on Native American astrology. You do us all a great service.

If you have the time- December 20th please.


Thank you for your kindnessflowerforyou

and here it is ...

You are of the Elk for the Native Americans.

Clan - Thunderbird
Spirit Keeper - Spirit Keeper of the West
Moon - Long-snows Moon
Crystal or mineral - Obsidian
Tree or plant - Black Spruce
Color - Black

The elk is the largest and most regal member of the deer family, and its large antlers enhance its stately appearance. The elk lives in the woodlands. They seem to have a sense of responsiblity, because when the ground is covered with heavy snow, elks will take turns breaking up the snow to create a trail for others to follow. Elks often prance around or break into a gallop of joy, and can run at speeds of up to thirty miles per hour for short distances.

The elk has few enemies. Cougars, bears, and wolves will sometimes succeed in bringing down a sick or ederly animal, but no animal is to match for a bull in his prime. Before the start of the twentieth century, most elk were slaughtered, and frequently the only reason for killing them was to make two of their teeth into jewels!

People born under the sign of the elk need to guard against being overly argumentative and erratic or difficult when in intimate relationships. If you choose to work with the elk on a spiritual level, you will earn about strength, responsiblity, joy, speed, and protection. The elk represents insight, independence, and fearlessness.

Individuals who are born under the sign of the elk have a ntuarlly positive outlook on life and are enterprising and full of energy and vitality. Versatile and adventurous, they are eager to expand their range beyond the comfortable and familiar. They enjoy travel and exploring and their minds are continually searching for new experiences. They are ambitious and optimistic folk, and while they can be self-pitying at times, they are the first to admit that luck is often on their side.

People born under this sign are idealists, and this trait seems to keep them going when tye face disappointments. They are believers and they are willing to fight for their beliefs. They are both loyal and independent, and they manage to balance both traits. Keen students, they are always on the lookout for new experiences. Often intuitive and original thinkers, these individuals are better at adapting than inventing. They work well in collaboration with others.


A lot of this description is very accurate-particularly the last two paragraphs. Now, being difficult in a romantic relationship- you'd have to ask my boyfriend.laugh laugh laugh

Thank you once again.

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Fri 07/24/09 11:53 AM
Thank you again so much for doing my sign (04/05) - I keep re-reading it and find a lot of myself in the reading, amazing how close it is. I do find some pleasure in the fact that my sign is also known as the "chicken hawk" - and did a flash back to the "Foghorn Leghorn" cartoons with the tenacious fiesty little chicken hawk in the cartoons. Thanks again.

Would you be willing to do a reading on my daughter and grandkids?? My daughter's birthday is 10/31, granddaughter is 12/02 and grandson is 06/24. (Daughter actually is 1/4 Chippewa and grandkids obviously are 1/8.)

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Fri 07/24/09 11:58 AM
Marie55 daughters birthday 10/31

People born on this day is of the Snake.

Clan is of the frog
Spirit Keeper - Spirit Keeper of the West
Moon - Freeze-up Moon
Crystal or Mineral - copper and malachite
Tree or plant - thistle
color - orange

The snake is a mysterious and magnificent - if somewhat misunderstood - member of the vertebrates family. It has the capacity to travel miles without others hearing it pass by and it can be quite bold.

Worldwide there are 2,500 species of snake. In the United States there are only 250 species and sub-species. Snakes are carnivorous, limbless reptiles that live in a variety of habitats and kill their prey in a variety of ways. Most snakes eat insects and small animals, which makes them useful because they keep the rat and mouse population down. Snakes can adapt well to their environment and are very sensitive. Being cold-blooded, they depend on their environment to keep them warm and safe, especially when they need to hibernate. When they grow too big for thier skin, they shed it.


The snake is respected in most Native American cultures, as it represents justice and transformation. The Miccosukee people have a snake clan that specializes in supplying medicinal cures. To them, the snake represents patience, because it is slow to anger. Many Native Americans peoples used the snake as a symbol of femininine powers and for healing.

Working with the snake can teach you about the mystery and realms of creation. It teaches you to be a better communicator, and it also imparts a spiritual message about the need for self-defense and for protecting your own life force.

The feelings of people who are born under this sign of the snake can be intense, but thse people are also cautious. They avoid revealing their weaknesses to others. On the surface they are bold and confident people, but this facade masks insecurity and a need to protect their feelings. People born under this sign have very powerful personalities that can be a little overwhelming at times, so they must take care not to intimidate others.

Those born under the snake sign have the ability to sum up others at a glance and see right through charlatans almost before they have spoken. The same can be said of a situation, because these people will intuitively know whether it is good or bad. Many are interested in the occult and similar topics, but they like to see these things proved rather than simply take someone else's word for it. Many are excellent strategists, so they will not start out on the road to achievement without thinking things through and having a plan. Life for these individuals is a little like a game - and they like to win!

People born under this sign need to be able to trust htose they love and those with whom they live. They also need to be able to trust work colleagues, relatives, and friends. As long as the trust is there, they will do anything for their friends or collegues. If a friend or colleague does something to lose that trust, though, it will be gone for good.

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Fri 07/24/09 12:00 PM
Marie55's granddaughter 12/2,

You are of the Elk for the Native Americans.

Clan - Thunderbird
Spirit Keeper - Spirit Keeper of the West
Moon - Long-snows Moon
Crystal or mineral - Obsidian
Tree or plant - Black Spruce
Color - Black

The elk is the largest and most regal member of the deer family, and its large antlers enhance its stately appearance. The elk lives in the woodlands. They seem to have a sense of responsiblity, because when the ground is covered with heavy snow, elks will take turns breaking up the snow to create a trail for others to follow. Elks often prance around or break into a gallop of joy, and can run at speeds of up to thirty miles per hour for short distances.

The elk has few enemies. Cougars, bears, and wolves will sometimes succeed in bringing down a sick or ederly animal, but no animal is to match for a bull in his prime. Before the start of the twentieth century, most elk were slaughtered, and frequently the only reason for killing them was to make two of their teeth into jewels!

People born under the sign of the elk need to guard against being overly argumentative and erratic or difficult when in intimate relationships. If you choose to work with the elk on a spiritual level, you will earn about strength, responsiblity, joy, speed, and protection. The elk represents insight, independence, and fearlessness.

Individuals who are born under the sign of the elk have a ntuarlly positive outlook on life and are enterprising and full of energy and vitality. Versatile and adventurous, they are eager to expand their range beyond the comfortable and familiar. They enjoy travel and exploring and their minds are continually searching for new experiences. They are ambitious and optimistic folk, and while they can be self-pitying at times, they are the first to admit that luck is often on their side.

People born under this sign are idealists, and this trait seems to keep them going when tye face disappointments. They are believers and they are willing to fight for their beliefs. They are both loyal and independent, and they manage to balance both traits. Keen students, they are always on the lookout for new experiences. Often intuitive and original thinkers, these individuals are better at adapting than inventing. They work well in collaboration with others.

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Fri 07/24/09 12:02 PM
Marie55's grandson 6/24,

The Flicker

Clan - Frog
Spirit Keeper - The south
Moon - Strong Sun Moon
Crystal or mineral - Carnelian
Tree or plant - Wild rose
Color - pink

The flicker is a beautiful colored bird. There are two kinds of flicker int he United States. The yellow-shafted flicker, found in the east, and the red-shafted flicker, found west of the Great Plains. Both types can be seen on farms and even suburubs. Flickers are drummers who play their songs on wood. Usually they drum on trees, but they can also drum on wooden houses, sometimes to extract insects, but sometimes just for the sheer joy of it. The flicker displays a magnificent talent for music!

Working spiritually with the flicker can teach you about communicating, music, joy, nurturing, courage, protection, and your connection with the universe.

Individuals born under the sign of the flicker, one of the most perplexing signs, can range from timid, shy, dull, and withdrawn to brilliant, friendly, and famous. They can have a wide range of emtoions, and they possess strong parental instincts. Fundamentally, people born under this sign are conservative and home loving by nature. They appreciate the security of a home base to which to retire when the stresses of life become too much to bear.

Individuals born under the sign of the flicker can appear uncompromising and obstinate, but this stance is often a facade that they use to hide insecurity. Their loved ones may see a different character, one with sympathy and sensitivity to others. In their personal relationships, these people are often a mixture of toughness and tenderness. They can be emotional, romantic, and loyal, on one side, and possessive and moody, on the other. When it comes to their love ones, especially small children and pets, nobody can be more caring.

Those born under the flicker sign can have closed minds, they can be opinionated, and they never forget an injury. They will also never allow others to forget an error. They are led by their emotions, and they will either be the best of the worst of friends. The overall nature of these individuals is deeply emotional. Although reserved, they possess sensitivity and sympathy. Rarely will they stand on pretence. What appears to be out in front is nothing more than a protective shell, but within its tough armor often resides an intuitive and needy individual who yearns for a deep exhange of love and understanding.

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Fri 07/24/09 12:10 PM
Once upon a spirit walk the one animal I came across was a rather large lizard. I am talking the real spirit walk. Lots of colors. Funny thing is I didn't know until then that sound could be seen. Are Indian animal signs also calendar dependent?

I was under the understanding you had to go on a spirit walk and meet your animal guide which in turn was your animal sign or am I wrong utterly?

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Fri 07/24/09 12:15 PM
Hi John I am born in the year of the monkey (Chinese) and a leo, dob: Aug 4th 1956

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Fri 07/24/09 01:26 PM
Edited by IntelligentDesigner on Fri 07/24/09 01:45 PM


I would be happy to know mine if you'd be so kind.

08/13/1980

Much appreciated. drinker


and here it is ...

The Sturgeon

Clan - Thunderbird
Spirit keeper - The south
Moon - Ripe-berries Moon
Crystal or mineral - Garnet and iron
Tree or plant - Raspberry
Color - red

The sturgeon is considered to be the king of the fishes. It is a primitive fish that probably existed on earth long before the dinosaurs disappeared, so it has a long history. The sturgeon comes in a variety of sizes. Sturgeons found in the Great Lakes area were considered teh royalty of fishes among Native Americans. The Ojibwa people believe that the sturgeon represents depth and strength.

Working on a spiritual level with the sturgeon can teach you about determination, perseverance, depth, and knowledge.

This sign actually links to two different kinds of fish according to which Native American tradition one follows. The other fish is the salmon. This is another truly royal member of the fish family, as it is valued as a food item by just about everybody. Now, of course, salmon are farmed, but in the past, it took real skill to hunt and catch the salmon. even more so when one realizes that fishermen were frequently in competition with the grizzly bear for these prize fish. This fish is also associated with perseverance, as shown by its determination to swim upstream in order to spawn.

Individuals born under this sign are considered to be oen of the strongest signs in Native American astrology. They are dominant, spontaneious, creative, and extroverted. These people were born to lead. If people born under the sign are ver part of a team building exercise, just watch what happens. The idea of buckling down and being part of a team is aline to these individuals, so while they may pretend to be interested in the concept, sooner or later (usually sooner) they will put their foot down and take charge. At this point, they will relax and become happy, while everyone falls in behind them in an equally relaxed and happy manner. Now the team will happily achieve any task that you can dream up for them.

People born under this sign possess grace and dignity, and they have an expansive personality. Abmitious and strong willed, they are positive and confident in their abilities. These people know what htey want in life and they get it. They are not easily daunted, so they persist through the most formidable of circumstances.

Individuals born under this sign can be stubborn; they often refuse to listen to another persons opinions. Because of their positive nature, they will expect the best, and when things don't turn out as they anticipated, they react immediately and badly. If things go again them, their confidence can evaporate, and they can become extremely downhearted. At this time they need a loved one or trust friend to keep reminding them that they are valuable and that their opinions and actions are not wrong. Fortunately, their bouts of depression dissipate fairly quickly and these individuals soon recover their usual cheerful and demonstrative nature.



Nicely done my good man! Very accurate. Thank you. drinker

Sturgeon, huh? Quite a large and powerful looking fish it is! King of the fishes too! Hm. That's a helluva thing to live up to.

I'm gonna go back and compile these reading you've done for me into a single document I can look at when I need to remind myself of who I am. Seems you just might know me better.

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Fri 07/24/09 08:23 PM
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Sat 07/25/09 09:51 PM
Thank you so much for the readings, I just read them to my daughter, they were very accurate in many areas, but I think the "slow to anger" on my daughter's is a little off,laugh laugh. The grandkids did sound quite accurate.

I really appreciate you doing these.

Now my daughter asks if you would mind doing her partner's,
his birthdate is 12/13. Thank you so much. Take care.

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Sat 07/25/09 10:37 PM
Edited by smiless on Sat 07/25/09 10:49 PM

Once upon a spirit walk the one animal I came across was a rather large lizard. I am talking the real spirit walk. Lots of colors. Funny thing is I didn't know until then that sound could be seen. Are Indian animal signs also calendar dependent?

I was under the understanding you had to go on a spirit walk and meet your animal guide which in turn was your animal sign or am I wrong utterly?


Native Americans also had calender dependent symbolism for new born babies, yet they also have many various animal totem spiritualism representations as a child grew up into an adult creating their individual personality, charactersitics, responsibility, and even destinies at the time.

So yes you are very correct in what you know about the Native American traditional spirituality and concerning the spirital walk. The thing is that I can't do an individual reading to its exactness on a online forum, so I entertain the Minglers with a basic introductory.

The tribe I am a part of reminds me that animals are as important to our survival on Earth as we are. We believe in the power and knowledge that animal spirits can give us. To live a peaceful and harmonious life, we need to remember that we are not the only animal on this planet, and without other species, be they animal or planet, we could not survive.

An animal totem is in simple terms an animal that we feel connected to. Using animal totems in your life will allow you to become better connected to Earth, and you will be able to solve life's problems and live a healthier, happier, and more spiritual life.

I believe that animals come to us because they have something to teach us, and particular kind of power they are willing to share with us. Sometimes they provide comfort to us when we need it. They seek to give us the gift of understanding and forgiveness and they are there to remind us that we are part of a great circle of life and that we should all live in harmony with one another.

Having an animal totem (for example in your case the lizard) doesn't mean that you have to take care of it physically, it just means that you can call upon it spiritually for security, support, sorrow, or stress for example.

Each and every animal totem has its unique powers and message to give us. So the lizard has actually chosen you!

Then we also have to remember that we are connected to more then one totem in which each represent a different meaning in your lifetime.

There is the lifelong totem, journey animal totem, message animal totem, and the shadow animal totem in which each has its unique message to give. So you can see how deep this can go!

I can tell you what the lizard stands for and that is it sometimes represents fear, but again it can represent patience.

One has to also remember that there are so may various tribes that each one has its own unique way of figuring out a persons characteristic, personality that can relate to animal personalities and characterisitics.

I am just introducing one of many possibilities. If anything it is an interesting part of history, culture, and lifestyle that was once reverred by many and now is cherished by few.

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Sat 07/25/09 10:38 PM

Hi John I am born in the year of the monkey (Chinese) and a leo, dob: Aug 4th 1956


Well hello there beautiful.flowerforyou

Here it is ....

The Sturgeon

Clan - Thunderbird
Spirit keeper - The south
Moon - Ripe-berries Moon
Crystal or mineral - Garnet and iron
Tree or plant - Raspberry
Color - red

The sturgeon is considered to be the king of the fishes. It is a primitive fish that probably existed on earth long before the dinosaurs disappeared, so it has a long history. The sturgeon comes in a variety of sizes. Sturgeons found in the Great Lakes area were considered teh royalty of fishes among Native Americans. The Ojibwa people believe that the sturgeon represents depth and strength.

Working on a spiritual level with the sturgeon can teach you about determination, perseverance, depth, and knowledge.

This sign actually links to two different kinds of fish according to which Native American tradition one follows. The other fish is the salmon. This is another truly royal member of the fish family, as it is valued as a food item by just about everybody. Now, of course, salmon are farmed, but in the past, it took real skill to hunt and catch the salmon. even more so when one realizes that fishermen were frequently in competition with the grizzly bear for these prize fish. This fish is also associated with perseverance, as shown by its determination to swim upstream in order to spawn.

Individuals born under this sign are considered to be oen of the strongest signs in Native American astrology. They are dominant, spontaneious, creative, and extroverted. These people were born to lead. If people born under the sign are ver part of a team building exercise, just watch what happens. The idea of buckling down and being part of a team is aline to these individuals, so while they may pretend to be interested in the concept, sooner or later (usually sooner) they will put their foot down and take charge. At this point, they will relax and become happy, while everyone falls in behind them in an equally relaxed and happy manner. Now the team will happily achieve any task that you can dream up for them.

People born under this sign possess grace and dignity, and they have an expansive personality. Abmitious and strong willed, they are positive and confident in their abilities. These people know what htey want in life and they get it. They are not easily daunted, so they persist through the most formidable of circumstances.

Individuals born under this sign can be stubborn; they often refuse to listen to another persons opinions. Because of their positive nature, they will expect the best, and when things don't turn out as they anticipated, they react immediately and badly. If things go again them, their confidence can evaporate, and they can become extremely downhearted. At this time they need a loved one or trust friend to keep reminding them that they are valuable and that their opinions and actions are not wrong. Fortunately, their bouts of depression dissipate fairly quickly and these individuals soon recover their usual cheerful and demonstrative nature.