wow poet is that where you go to worship your god

First your will has to die before Gods will can work........

that is so true rock

Where you referring to my lil devil pic Wonderman?? Because I do not
worship the devil, if you ever read anything you would know I am a
Wiccan not a Satanist... and where I worship my chosen deity's is my
business not yours nor do I need to be in a building to do so

Kariz, we all find what god's will is for us, on our own.
No need to swear, understand your frustration.
Can it be expressed w/o swearing?

For those who may not know, KariZ is Australian.

We are a 'wordy' people...we do swear a fair bit, in comparison to other
countries perhaps.

And although this is a US/Canadian site, we were accepted and welcomed
by the owners, as they have every intention of expaning internationally.

KariZ is atypical of a genuine, and honest Australian, we live for our
land, we honour and respect our Mother Earth.

And we sit way over here in the southern corner of the world, in a
desperate drought, with a government in greed, and we cannot see how any
god is a merciful god, when his native creatures are being starved, and
his playground has been decimated.

We are guilty of decimating our own country, but we also are impacted by
other countries as well..

KariZ may swear, but it is from frustration, and despair.

poet i am sorry, it was not aim at you either

I have no problem or issues with how KariZman expresses him self, I tend
to swear a bit myself

God's will is your will. Plain and simple. you guide yourself though the
chaos of hope and reason. Not some separate entity.

im a selfish sod so i have to share my will with god to get the picture
do i.? i dont know why he dosent cough up a few bucks now it
would be a big help with my will ive spent most of my life
contemplateing my navel and theres nothing in my bank account

Was there any lint in it?

Your navel not your bank account.

ab i opened my wallet and moths flew out of it .i collected my navel
lint and now i have enough to make a doily for my tea pot.

karizman....i hope you're tending the garden then!!


if it is really that awful...email me..sheesh i can send pnutbutter!

I always seem to tune in a little belatedly ...
I guess it is this westcoast time zone maybe...

Ohm, and by the way...
The emoticons I sent were meant for everyone...

I am trying hard to broaden my horizons...folks

Oh, please let's try to find the things that unite us,
rather than the things that divide us...Okay...
With lots of love,

Cherub said**

Because I do not
worship the devil, if you ever read anything you would know I am a
Wiccan not a Satanist.



The majority of Satanists do not worship the "devil", nor do they
believe in the "devil". Actually Satanists, for the most part, do not
worship anything.

I don't know if there is a "God" per say, at least not the Christian
version. But there is "something" that drives the universe... something
as amorphous as infinity cannot very well be interpreted by something as
finite (even though it's the most powerful computer we know of) as the
human mind. That's why I think faith plays THE part in determining ones
religious beliefs. We can't prove anything. For instance, you can't
PROVE that your mom loves you. Oh you may say she gave you life, and
took care of you, and cradled you in her arms when you were ill, and
made you PB & J sandwiches; all signs of a loving mom, but does that
PROVE anything? How do you know your mom loves you? You just KNOW, you
believe, and that makes it true.

I'm not a Christian, or Catholic. I am spiritual in the sense that
there is something greater, and that has to be my faith, my cross to
bear as it were. Not to make this tangent go on any further, but I
personally would love to "know" a belief like Jesus and God as do many
devoutly faithful people. My doubts are not so easily assuaged,
however, there is no doubt that there is something.

I think it was an honest ? that kari had
I also believe that God will is different for every person
I have recently come back to the lord after floundering for years.
I do not know what Gods will is for me, or what he has in store for my
life.
I am just living my life right and straightening my self out. I do know
that personally... for me i was so lost and have found the path home.

The only places in the Bible that refers to ANY personal private
individual will of God, speaks concerning a call of an individual for
ministry, and the distribution of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit.

Rom 12:2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be
transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test
and approve what God's will is -- his good, pleasing and perfect will.

So it says here that one can test and approve what God’s will is!

Acts 20:24 However, I consider my life worth nothing to me, if only I
may finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me --
the task of testifying to the gospel of God's grace.

Acts 20:25 "Now I know that none of you among whom I have gone about
preaching the kingdom will ever see me again.

Acts 20:26 Therefore, I declare to you today that I am innocent of the
blood of all men.

Acts 20:27 For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of
God.

Paul wrote what he taught – nearly two-thirds of the New Testament! READ
the Teachings of Paul, and you will be reading the will of God for you!

Here it says that you can not only know and stand firm in the will of
God, but be assured that it IS the will of God!

1 John 2:17 The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does
the will of God lives forever.

Surely, God has made His will known to us somewhere if He requires us to
do it to inherit eternal life!

Eph 1:8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
Eph 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to
his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

Here is says that He HAS made known His will for you!
Eph 1:11 In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according
to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity WITH the
purpose of his will,
(Notice here, that he does not say “I was chosen” or “You were chosen”
but rather he says “We were chosen” indicating that this is referring to
God’s general will for us all!)
Eph 1:13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of
truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in
him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit.

Now remember that we are pointing out that There is NO separate,
individual will of God, for each person that we can’t know until it
happens to us. There IS the general will of God for us all that we ALL
can know – if we READ what that will IS – in the Bible!

The Bible IS the written will of God! It is full of promises and
statements of fact – that you can absolutely count on!

Notice, after you KNOW God’s will, and DO God’s will – you receive the
promises – of God’s will!

And, James 2:17 says that faith without acting on it -- is a dead faith.

So we have seen that by reading what is written in the New Covenant, we
can know God’s will. Now let’s see another way to know God’s will. By
what Jesus said and did!

John 6:38 For I (Jesus) have come down from heaven not to do my will but
to do the will of him who sent me.

Jesus said he didn’t come to do his own will – but ONLY did the will of
the father!!! He said that he only spoke the Father’s words!! If you
want to know the Will of God for you – hear what Jesus said, look at
what Jesus did!

Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

Jesus didn’t do his will one minute and God’s will the next! He was, is
and will ever be consistent!

Many believe that suffering through sickness – somehow glorifies God –
NO! Healing Glorifies God!

Gods will is everyday, all day, throughout time, in everything we do,
say, think, feel. If we believe in Him and praise Him Son of God, and
believe His word is truth and justice, then and only then, will we
understand.
It isn't individual, it is collective, hope and the wish that we all
prosper, learn and teach and live according to Him.


Kat