Topic: christians on muslims?
lonetar25's photo
Sat 07/04/09 09:12 AM
as a non religiious person im intrested to hear christian views on the minority muslims, "destructive" side

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/04/09 09:18 AM
Used to be a Christian, not anymore.

The lunatic fringe of ALL religions seems to be "destructive" to itself and others.

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 07/04/09 09:33 AM
in all reality the actions of the Muslims parallels the Christians during their era of bloodshed. It seems almost all religions go through this phase where you "conform or die."

Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition, or the French one, or the Italian one.

Everyone seen the three Crusades coming.

Well, now we have the Jihad.

the problem is that everyone wants everyone else to fall into the herd like sheep and if you do not conform exactly you are expelled and likewise persecuted and or hunted and killed.


So how many people does it take to make an angry mob??

lonetar25's photo
Sat 07/04/09 09:46 AM
youll have to forgive my lack of interlect on this matter but have christians ever murdered people for not praying, or just not following their own belliefs?
is it uncomprohendable that not everyone has the same belef,
if you dont respect ones choice of belef, how can you excpect others to respect your own belef?

Winx's photo
Sat 07/04/09 10:08 AM

as a non religiious person im intrested to hear christian views on the minority muslims, "destructive" side


I feel that there are extremists in the Muslim religion and the Christian religion.

earthytaurus76's photo
Sat 07/04/09 10:32 AM
Love em! I hear they are great in bed too!

Redykeulous's photo
Sat 07/04/09 11:35 AM
I am an atheist but I will respond anyway. What you have asked and the way in which you have asked it is confrontational at best because you do not need to ask the question at all. You only need to think a little for yourself, do some of your own research.

One of the great detriments to humanity seems to be the religious state; a whole society governed through religious law. Of the great religions each has had it’s time in which some ruler chose to create a government based on some religion. This has been the cause of so much destruction of life and property, and that is why, today, we can look back at a trail of religious abuse and claim that this is all that religion has brought to humanity. It is not religion itself that is the cause, it is the abusive way in which powerful proponents of religions utilize the belief for their own purpose.

Many religious people today organize to give their voice power to impact social laws. In effect what they are doing is attempting to force others through legal avenues to act in accordance with their moral traditions, the same thing that religious states try to do with other states. Many of their morals might be beneficial to ethical government, even to all others we share this world with, but a great many are simply traditions based on a sectarian belief and enforcing them actually detracts from what is good, fair, and right for ALL.

What I’ve just written surely explains what most people already know, or could easily infer themselves from a little research and critical thinking.

So if you were to think more critically about the issue you want do discuss, how could you change the topic in order to get a real discussion?

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 07/04/09 12:23 PM
:smile: They believe in the same god of monotheism:smile:

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Sat 07/04/09 02:51 PM
I wish they would stop killing each other and create peaceflowerforyou

lonetar25's photo
Sat 07/04/09 03:29 PM

I am an atheist but I will respond anyway. What you have asked and the way in which you have asked it is confrontational at best because you do not need to ask the question at all. You only need to think a little for yourself, do some of your own research.

One of the great detriments to humanity seems to be the religious state; a whole society governed through religious law. Of the great religions each has had it’s time in which some ruler chose to create a government based on some religion. This has been the cause of so much destruction of life and property, and that is why, today, we can look back at a trail of religious abuse and claim that this is all that religion has brought to humanity. It is not religion itself that is the cause, it is the abusive way in which powerful proponents of religions utilize the belief for their own purpose.

Many religious people today organize to give their voice power to impact social laws. In effect what they are doing is attempting to force others through legal avenues to act in accordance with their moral traditions, the same thing that religious states try to do with other states. Many of their morals might be beneficial to ethical government, even to all others we share this world with, but a great many are simply traditions based on a sectarian belief and enforcing them actually detracts from what is good, fair, and right for ALL.

What I’ve just written surely explains what most people already know, or could easily infer themselves from a little research and critical thinking.

So if you were to think more critically about the issue you want do discuss, how could you change the topic in order to get a real discussion?



in writing my question in reply to you, several times. i did indeed answer my own question. however i will not research this in any way as im realy not wanting to learn anything about history or religion, i mearly wanted real peoples views so i could get a better understanding of the issues im seeing

Abracadabra's photo
Sat 07/04/09 04:26 PM

youll have to forgive my lack of interlect on this matter but have christians ever murdered people for not praying, or just not following their own belliefs?


If you're asking from a historic perspective Christians have murdered millions of peoples over the last two millennia. And that's no exaggeration. Specific events are known to have accounted for mass murdering of thousands of people.

Christianity is only popular today because it was enforced by the sword. Christians love to pretend that Jesus was just the most influential historical figure, but that's utterly untrue. Jeus just happens to be the central character in the Christian dogma. The dogma itself was propagated by threat of death if you dared to even suggest that the Holy Scriptures of Christianity were any other than the verbatim word of God.

There were periods throughout history where Christians did nothing but run around destroying pagan temples and anyone who dared to even remotely suggest that Christianity might not be true.

Even as recent as the time of Isaac Newton a person could still be hung for suggesting that Jesus might not have been the son of the God of Abraham. This was Isaac Newton's conclusion, but he dared not make it publicly known lest he be taken to the gallows and hung.

Instead he chose to bite his tonuge.

And that was only a few centuries ago.

Christianity has been a historic blood bath.

The only reason it isn't that way today is because it is basically a dead religion. Especially within the scope of what religions used to be. Today, all that exists are either individuals who just have a personal walk with Jesus in their own way (in a way isn't even remotely similar to the original religion actually), or they are powerless fanatics who would actually love to murder heathens if they had the power to do so and thought they could get away with it.

Islam isn't all that different from Christianity. It's actually just another offshoot from the same mythology. And like Christianity it has non-violent followers who believe it is a religion of peace, and it has fantatics that would love to use it as an excuse to murder the world.

In truth, there is no such thing as 'religion'.

All that exists are individuals who interpret ancient mythologies in grossly different ways.

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 07/04/09 05:43 PM

youll have to forgive my lack of interlect on this matter but have christians ever murdered people for not praying, or just not following their own belliefs?
is it uncomprohendable that not everyone has the same belef,
if you dont respect ones choice of belef, how can you excpect others to respect your own belef?



Yes! The Inquisitions!

Abracadabra's photo
Sat 07/04/09 06:03 PM


youll have to forgive my lack of interlect on this matter but have christians ever murdered people for not praying, or just not following their own belliefs?
is it uncomprohendable that not everyone has the same belef,
if you dont respect ones choice of belef, how can you excpect others to respect your own belef?



Yes! The Inquisitions!


And in a very real sense we are still suffering in the aftermath of that to this very day. We've never truly recovered from the whole 'believe in Jesus or be a heathen' mentality. ohwell

It's so sad. :cry:

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 07/04/09 08:33 PM

youll have to forgive my lack of interlect on this matter but have christians ever murdered people for not praying, or just not following their own belliefs?
is it uncomprohendable that not everyone has the same belef,
if you dont respect ones choice of belef, how can you excpect others to respect your own belef?

Middle ages.

Just to name one time period.

As another poster stated... All religions seem to go through a period where they do this.

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Sun 07/05/09 09:00 AM
oh right that kind of 'on muslims' grumble

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Sun 07/05/09 10:28 AM
Edited by boo2u on Sun 07/05/09 10:37 AM

youll have to forgive my lack of interlect on this matter but have christians ever murdered people for not praying, or just not following their own belliefs?
is it uncomprohendable that not everyone has the same belef,
if you dont respect ones choice of belef, how can you excpect others to respect your own belef?


Could be that the very problem is that we respect any religious beliefs at all, especially because they can not be proved. Being told we should respect all beliefs just keeps them around to be used to control every new generation. I have no respect for most religions, period and the older I get the less tolerance I have for people who push it to my doorstep. I don't go around arguing with people on religion, but I sure don't hang around long when they start talking about how the world will end etc.

I am thoroughly sick of religion and it's strangle hold on the population.

Ya I am in a lousy mood today but I would say the same if I was in a better mood. Actually just tired and this hit my not so funny bone.

SVImager's photo
Fri 07/17/09 10:08 AM
Edited by SVImager on Fri 07/17/09 10:11 AM

as a non religiious person im intrested to hear christian views on the minority muslims, "destructive" side


Muslims are just like Christians.
They are not anymore destructive than Christians.

The Koran is similiar to ours minus the New Testimony.
They follow Moses laws. Most of the Koran is about Moses. The Koran mentions Mary, Mother of Jesus, more than the Bible.

The problem is some country using Religion to OPPRESS.
We are not far behind... The line of Politics and Christianity are getting blurred everyday. Even my Pastor doesn't realize he is being Political not Christian.

Example:
Iran doesn't have Gays, because they Kill them.
We are not far behind.

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 07/17/09 10:13 AM
Edited by Ladylid2012 on Fri 07/17/09 10:40 AM
"you say your a christian cause God made you, you say your a hindu cause God made you, you say your a muslim cause God made you, the next one a jew, then we all kill each other cause God told us to....hello hello"

Michael Franti

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 07/17/09 11:43 AM

"you say your a christian cause God made you, you say your a hindu cause God made you, you say your a muslim cause God made you, the next one a jew, then we all kill each other cause God told us to....hello hello"

Michael Franti



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