Topic: Abraham, Martin & John
Rapunzel's photo
Wed 07/01/09 01:19 PM
i just love this song :cry: :cry: :cry:

smokin i can never give enough tribute to men like these smokin




Abraham, Martin & John
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dHvYB5JdSs




Anybody here seen my old friend Abraham?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed lotta people but it seems the good they die young
You know I just looked around and he's gone

Anybody here seen my old friend John?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed lotta people but it seems the good they die young
I just looked around and he's gone

Anybody here seen my old friend Martin?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lotta people

but it seems the good they die young
I just looked around and he's gone

Didn't you love the things that they stood for?
Didn't they try to find some good for you and me?
And we'll be free
Some day soon, it's gonna be one day

Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up over the hill
With Abraham, Martin, and John








no photo
Wed 07/01/09 01:24 PM
I love Dion Dimucci. Abraham, Martin, & John is one of many songs of his that I cherish.

lighthouselover's photo
Wed 07/01/09 01:25 PM


the social context of this song and others written and sung around that time is incredible.

To take these lyrics and some of the others, you can tell so much about the climate and fabric of society at this time...

great song! great song writing!!

silly's photo
Wed 07/01/09 02:28 PM
Love that song sis.flowerforyou

Rapunzel's photo
Thu 07/02/09 07:12 AM

I love Dion Dimucci. Abraham, Martin, & John is one of many songs of his that I cherish.



flowers Oh Hi there Handsome Mitch...thank you for coming by flowers

flowerforyou I had computer problems yesterday afternoon flowerforyou

drinker so i could not get back to anyone until now drinker


sad Yes, i agree ~ this is a precious song sad

drinker and the words and music are definitely drinker

blushing something to completely treasure & cherish blushing

Rapunzel's photo
Thu 07/02/09 07:19 AM

drinker I've been looking for a graphic image to post here drinker

ohwell and this is the only one i can find of Abraham Lincoln ohwell

huh i don't care for the dumb comment on the top of the pic huh








http://www.thinkexist.com/English/Author/x/Author_766_1.htm

ABRAHAM LINCOLN

16th U.S. president, who brought about the emancipation of the slaves, 1809-1865


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't like that man. I must get to know him better.




'A drop of honey catches more flies than a gallon of gal.' So with men. If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his sincere friend. Therein is a drop of honey which catches his heart, which, say what he will, is the highroad to his reason.




Character is like a tree and reputation like a shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.




Die when I may, I want it said of me that I plucked a weed and planted a flower where ever I thought a flower would grow.




Surely God would not have created such a being as man, with an ability to grasp the infinite, to exist only for a day! No, no, man was made for immortality.




The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew.




Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.




The Lord prefers common-looking people.That is why He made so many of them.




I am for those means which will give the greatest good to the greatest number.




The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just.



Rapunzel's photo
Thu 07/02/09 07:39 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Thu 07/02/09 07:48 AM



the social context of this song and others written and sung around that time is incredible.

To take these lyrics and some of the others, you can tell so much about the climate and fabric of society at this time...

great song! great song writing!!







flowers Hello My Sister & Fellow Lighthouse Lover flowers


flowerforyou I am sorry i may not have ever known your name flowerforyou



I really like your comments here flowerforyou flowerforyou

speaking of the climate & the fabric of society at the time...

You and i are close in age & i also recall those days well smokin

those were rough times ~ to say the very least frown

I grew up in Connecticut with Black Panthers rioting &

overturning cop cars & setting them on fire at Yale University noway

when i was around 12 & 13 something like that blushing

My Mom was divorced and worked nights drinker

and the wise smokin & amazing woman drinker that she is flowers

she bought me a sewing machine bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile

to help keep me home and off the streets at night :heart: :heart: :heart:

and i learned to sew on a machine since i was 12 happy

and i also was one of the fortunate ones in attendence at Woodstock bigsmile

flowerforyou the biggest peace love & music gathering of the time flowerforyou



noway it's hard to believe that it was almost 40 years ago noway




































Rapunzel's photo
Thu 07/02/09 09:37 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Thu 07/02/09 09:44 AM

Love that song sis.flowerforyou




Hi there my Dear Sister Louise...flowers

thanks for stopping by Sis ...happy happy happy

Love & Light to you My Dear :heart: :angel: :thumbsup: :angel: :heart:

yes, it is a real precious gem :heart: :heart:

here's another version flowers

it just gives me chills blushing blushing blushing



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udl0DkZolmE&feature=related





Martin Luther King Quotes

http://www.mlkonline.net/video-martin-luther-king-last-speech.html

I See the Promised Land - Martin Luther King, Jr.'s last speech drinker


Prophetic words from Martin Luther King, the day before he was assassinated :cry:



Watch the Full 16-min video of Martin Luther King's famous I Have a Dream Speech

A wonderful collection of quotes by Martin Luther King, Jr. from his many speeches, this is a must read!


Somehow this madness must cease. We must stop now. I speak as a child of God and brother to the suffering poor of Vietnam.
I speak for those whose land is being laid waste, whose homes are being destroyed, whose culture is being subverted. I speak
for the poor in America who are paying the double price of smashed hopes at home and death and corruption in Vietnam. I
speak as a citizen of the world, for the world as it stands aghast at the path we have taken. I speak as an American to the
leaders of my own nation. The great initiative in this war is ours. The initiative to stop it must be ours.

Martin Luther King, Jr., The Trumpet of Conscience, 1967.


A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching
spiritual death.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?, 1967.


The limitation of riots, moral questions aside, is that they cannot win and their participants know it. Hence, rioting is not
revolutionary but reactionary because it invites defeat. It involves an emotional catharsis, but it must be followed by a sense of
futility.

Martin Luther King, Jr., The Trumpet of Conscience, 1967.


Nonviolence is the answer to the crucial political and moral questions of our time: the need for man to overcome oppression and
violence without resorting to oppression and violence. Man must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge,
aggression and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Nobel Prize acceptance speech, Stockholm, Sweden, December 11, 1964.


Man was born into barbarism when killing his fellow man was a normal condition of existence. He became endowed with a
conscience. And he has now reached the day when violence toward another human being must become as abhorrent as eating
another's flesh.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Why We Can't Wait, 1963.


The curse of poverty has no justification in our age. It is socially as cruel and blind as the practice of cannibalism at the dawn of
civilization, when men ate each other because they had not yet learned to take food from the soil or to consume the abundant
animal life around them. The time has come for us to civilize ourselves by the total, direct and immediate abolition of poverty.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?, 1967.


It is necessary to understand that Black Power is a cry of disappointment. The Black Power slogan did not spring full grown
from the head of some philosophical Zeus. It was born from the wounds of despair and disappointment. It is a cry of daily hurt
and persistent pain.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?, 1967.


Discrimination is a hellhound that gnaws at Negroes in every waking moment of their lives to remind them that the lie of their
inferiority is accepted as truth in the society dominating them.

Martin Luther King, Jr., speech, Southern Christian Leadership Conference, Atlanta, Georgia, August 16, 1967.


When we ask Negroes to abide by the law, let us also declare that the white man does not abide by law in the ghettos. Day in
and day out he violates welfare laws to deprive the poor of their meager allotments; he flagrantly violates building codes and
regulations; his police make a mockery of law; he violates laws on equal employment and education and the provisions of civil
services. The slums are the handiwork of a vicious system of the white society; Negroes live in them, but they do not make
them, any more than a prisoner makes a prison.

Martin Luther King, Jr., The Trumpet of Conscience, 1967.

It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty
important.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Wall Street Journal, November 13, 1962.


Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies
hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction....The chain reaction
of evil--hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars--must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of
annihilation.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Strength To Love, 1963.


Success, recognition, and conformity are the bywords of the modern world where everyone seems to crave the anesthetizing
security of being identified with the majority.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Strength to Love, 1963.

Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man's sense of values
and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false
and the false with the true.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Strength To Love, 1963.


Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Strength to Love, 1963.

I am aware that there are many who wince at a distinction between property and persons--who hold both sacrosanct. My
views are not so rigid. A life is sacred. Property is intended to serve life, and no matter how much we surround it with rights and
respect, it has no personal being. It is part of the earth man walks on; it is not man.

Martin Luther King, Jr., The Trumpet of Conscience, 1967.


The bombs in Vietnam explode at home; they destroy the hopes and possibilities for a decent America.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?, 1967.


We must combine the toughness of the serpent and the softness of the dove, a tough mind and a tender heart.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Strength to Love, 1963.


The church must be reminded that it is not the master or the servant of the state, but rather the conscience of the state. It must
be the guide and the critic of the state, and never its tool. If the church does not recapture its prophetic zeal, it will become an
irrelevant social club without moral or spiritual authority.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Strength to Love, 1963.


Power at its best is love implementing the demands of justice. Justice at its best is love correcting everything that stands against
love.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?, 1967.


The Negroes of America had taken the President, the press and the pulpit at their word when they spoke in broad terms of
freedom and justice. But the absence of brutality and unregenerate evil is not the presence of justice. To stay murder is not the
same thing as to ordain brotherhood.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?, 1967.


Many of the ugly pages of American history have been obscured and forgotten....America owes a debt of justice which it has
only begun to pay. If it loses the will to finish or slackens in its determination, history will recall its crimes and the country that
would be great will lack the most indispensable element of greatness--justice.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?, 1967.


Man is man because he is free to operate within the framework of his destiny. He is free to deliberate, to make decisions, and to
choose between alternatives. He is distinguished from animals by his freedom to do evil or to do good and to walk the high road
of beauty or tread the low road of ugly degeneracy.

Martin Luther King, Jr., The Measures of Man, 1959.


A good many observers have remarked that if equality could come at once the Negro would not be ready for it. I submit that
the white American is even more unprepared.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community?, 1967.


Nonviolent action, the Negro saw, was the way to supplement, not replace, the progress of change. It was the way to divest
himself of passivity without arraying himself in vindictive force.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Why We Can't Wait, 1964.


If a man hasn't discovered something that he will die for, he isn't fit to live.

Martin Luther King, Jr., speech, Detroit, Michigan, June 23, 1963.


To be a Negro in America is to hope against hope.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?, 1967.


Being a Negro in America means trying to smile when you want to cry. It means trying to hold on to physical life amid
psychological death. It means the pain of watching your children grow up with clouds of inferiority in their mental skies. It means
having your legs cut off, and then being condemned for being a cripple. It means seeing your mother and father spiritually
murdered by the slings and arrows of daily exploitation, and then being hated for being an orphan.

Martin Luther King, Jr., Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?, 1967.



http://www.mlkonline.net/video-martin-luther-king-last-speech.html


drinker I have been to the Mountaintop drinker

:cry: Mine eyes have seen the Glory :angel: of the Coming :thumbsup: of The Lord :cry:




















Rapunzel's photo
Thu 07/02/09 09:56 AM



John F. Kennedy (1917 - 1963)

35th president of US 1961-1963

Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future.
John F. Kennedy

Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names.

John F. Kennedy


If we cannot end now our differences,
at least we can help make the world safe for diversity.
John F. Kennedy

















Let us think of education as the means of developing our greatest abilities, because in each of us there is a private hope and dream which, fulfilled, can be translated into benefit for everyone and greater strength for our nation.

John F. Kennedy

Liberty without learning is always in peril;
learning without liberty is always in vain.

John F. Kennedy

Our problems are man-made, therefore they may be solved by man.
No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings.

John F. Kennedy

So, let us not be blind to our differences -
but let us also direct attention to our common interests
and to the means by which those differences can be resolved.


John F. Kennedy
The American, by nature, is optimistic. He is experimental,
an inventor and a builder who builds best
when called upon to build greatly.

John F. Kennedy


The ancient Greek definition of happiness
was the full use of your powers along lines of excellence.

John F. Kennedy

The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie --

deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth,
persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion
without the discomfort of thought.

John F. Kennedy

The great French Marshall Lyautey once asked his gardener
to plant a tree. The gardener objected that the tree
was slow growing and would not reach maturity for 100 years.
The Marshall replied, 'In that case, there is no time to lose;
plant it this afternoon!' drinker

John F. Kennedy



The time to repair the roof is when the sun is shining. :wink:

John F. Kennedy

There are risks and costs to a program of action.
But they are far less than the long-range risks
and costs of comfortable inaction.

John F. Kennedy


Washington is a city of Southern efficiency
and Northern charm.

John F. Kennedy

We must use time as a tool, not as a crutch.

John F. Kennedy

We set sail on this new sea
because there is knowledge to be gained.

John F. Kennedy

We stand for freedom.
That is our conviction for ourselves;
that is our only commitment to others.

John F. Kennedy

When we got into office, the thing that surprised me the most
was that things were as bad as we'd been saying they were. laugh

John F. Kennedy

The men who create power make an indispensable contribution
to the Nation’s greatness, but the men who question power
make a contribution just as indispensable, especially
when that questioning is disinterested,
for they determine whether we use power or power uses us.

John F. Kennedy, Amherst College, Oct 26, 1963 -
Source JFK Library, Boston, Mass.

...probably the greatest concentration of talent and genius
in this house except for perhaps those times
when Thomas Jefferson ate alone. drinker

John F. Kennedy, Describing a dinner for Nobel Prize winners,
1962
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable.

John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962

And so, my Fellow Americans:
ask not what your Country can do for you -
ask what you can do for your country. smokin

My fellow citizens of the world:
ask not what America will do for you,
but what together we can do for the freedom of man. drinker

John F. Kennedy, Inaugural address, January 20, 1961

If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, :heart:
it cannot save the few who are rich. noway

John F. Kennedy, inaugural address, January 20, 1961

We must never forget that art is not a form of propaganda;
it is a form of truth.

John F. Kennedy, October 26, 1963


For in the final analysis, our most basic common link, :wink:
is that we all inhabit this small planet, happy
we all breathe the same air, flowerforyou
we all cherish our children's futures, :heart:
and we are all mortal. drinker

John F. Kennedy, Speech at The American University, Washington, D.C., June 10, 1963

Our problems are man-made, therefore they may be solved by man.
And man can be as big as he wants.
No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings.

John F. Kennedy, speech at The American University, Washington, D.C., June 10, 1963

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

John F. Kennedy, speech at Vanderbilt University, May 18, 1963

All of us have in our veins the exact same percentage of salt in our blood that exists in the ocean, and, therefore, we have salt in our blood, in our sweat, in our tears. We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea -- whether it is to sail or to watch it -- we are going back from whence we came.

John F. Kennedy, Speech given at Newport at the dinner before the America's Cup Races, September 1962

We need men who can dream of things that never were. drinker smokin drinker

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
- More quotations on: [Dreams]

The Chinese use two brush strokes to write the word 'crisis.'
One brush stroke stands for danger; the other for opportunity.
In a crisis, be aware of the danger - but recognize the opportunity.

John F. Kennedy, Speech in Indianapolis, April 12, 1959



Leadership and learning are indispensable to each other.
John F. Kennedy, speech prepared for delivery in Dallas
the day of his assassination, November 22, 1963


Mankind must put an end to war tears

or war will put an end to mankind. sad

John F. Kennedy, Speech to UN General Assembly, Sept. 25, 1961





lighthouselover's photo
Thu 07/02/09 10:03 AM


reading all of this brings a hope again...the feeling of hope that I remember my parents had...

I can remember them talking at the kitchen table...about how our country was going to change for the better...

these words are still relevant today...

timeless words...


Rapunzel's photo
Thu 07/02/09 03:05 PM



reading all of this brings a hope again...the feeling of hope that I remember my parents had...

I can remember them talking at the kitchen table...about how our country was going to change for the better...

these words are still relevant today...

timeless words...






Yes for sure It's what we need drinker


the feeling of hope again :thumbsup:


love, loyalty, pride & total support

for those who defend our Country smokin

and stand between us & the Enemy devil

and unceasing prayers day and night :angel:


for the leaders of our beautiful Country :heart:

to keep them in check & balance drinker

and for their hearts to be true :heart:

and dedicated to the wise precepts smokin

that this Country was founded upon drinker



Rapunzel's photo
Thu 07/02/09 03:22 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Thu 07/02/09 03:24 PM
oh cannot believe it ohwell
i could not find one picture of Robert Kennedy tears tears





http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/robert_kennedy_2.html





Robert Kennedy Quotes



Date of Birth:
November 20, 1925

Date of Death:
June 6, 1968




All of us might wish at times
that we lived in a more tranquil world, but we don't.
And if our times are difficult and perplexing,
so are they challenging and filled with opportunity.

Robert Kennedy

But suppose God is black? What if we go to Heaven and we,
all our lives, have treated the Negro as an inferior,
and God is there, and we look up and He is not white?
What then is our response?

Robert Kennedy

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves.
What is equally true is that every community
gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on.

Robert Kennedy

Few will have the greatness to bend history itself;
but each of us can work to change a small portion of events,
and in the total;
of all those acts will be written the history of this generation.

Robert Kennedy

I believe that, as long as there is plenty, poverty is evil.

Robert Kennedy

I thought they'd get one of us, but Jack,
after all he's been through, never worried about it
I thought it would be me.

Robert Kennedy

I was the seventh of nine children.
When you come from that far down you have to struggle to survive.

Robert Kennedy

If any man claims the Negro should be content...
let him say he would willingly change the color of his skin
and go to live in the Negro section of a large city.
Then and only then has he a right to such a claim.

Robert Kennedy

It is not enough to understand, or to see clearly.
The future will be shaped in the arena of human activity,
by those willing to commit their minds
and their bodies to the task.

Robert Kennedy

Let us dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago:
to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world.

Robert Kennedy

Now I can go back to being ruthless again.

Robert Kennedy

One-fifth of the people are against everything all the time. ohwell

Robert Kennedy

Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly. smokin

Robert Kennedy

People say I am ruthless. I am not ruthless.
And if I find the man who is calling me ruthless,
I shall destroy him.

Robert Kennedy

Progress is a nice word. But change is its motivator.
And change has its enemies.

Robert Kennedy

The free way of life proposes ends,
but it does not prescribe means.

Robert Kennedy

There are those who look at things the way they are, frown
and ask why...huh
I dream of things that never were, and ask why not? flowerforyou

Robert Kennedy

Tragedy is a tool for the living to gain wisdom,
not a guide by which to live.

Robert Kennedy

Ultimately, America's answer to the intolerant man is diversity,
the very diversity which our heritage of religious freedom
has inspired.

Robert Kennedy

What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists,
is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
The evil is not what they say about their cause,
but what they say about their opponents.

Robert Kennedy


Whenever men take the law into their own hands,
the loser is the law.
And when the law loses, freedom languishes.

Robert Kennedy smokin drinker smokin





no photo
Fri 07/03/09 06:18 PM
Edited by JimmyTheGent on Fri 07/03/09 06:30 PM
I must admit. This song does get to me. If you really want to hear something moving, listen to Ted's eulogy of his brother Bobby:

"...to be remembered simply as a good and decent man
Who saw wrong and tried to right it
Who saw suffering and tried to heal it
Who saw war and tried to stop it."

The whole thing is here:

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/ekennedytributetorfk.html


rara777's photo
Mon 07/06/09 08:38 AM
One of the greatest songs ever written.

Honoring 3 of the greatest men in The United States during the 1960`s

If they would have been able to fulfill their dreams.

I don`t think that we would be in mess that we are today.

John F. Kennedy was a great President for the short time that he was in office. What other leader of any other country at that time would have stood up to Russia & Cuba like he did? I didn`t see any other country trying to back JFK on that one.

I also personally feel that Bobby Kennedy, and Martin Luther King would have also been 2 of the greatest Presidents that this country would have seen.

Rapunzel's photo
Sun 07/12/09 01:23 PM

I must admit. This song does get to me. If you really want to hear something moving, listen to Ted's eulogy of his brother Bobby:

"...to be remembered simply as a good and decent man
Who saw wrong and tried to right it
Who saw suffering and tried to heal it
Who saw war and tried to stop it."

The whole thing is here:

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/ekennedytributetorfk.html







thank you soo much for stopping by Jimmy the Gent flowerforyou

drinker & for your sweet comments & for sharing this video drinker

i will listen to it right now flowerforyou ...


i soo appreciate noble people like you flowers





Rapunzel's photo
Sun 07/12/09 01:27 PM

One of the greatest songs ever written.

Honoring 3 of the greatest men in The United States during the 1960`s

If they would have been able to fulfill their dreams.

I don`t think that we would be in mess that we are today.

John F. Kennedy was a great President for the short time that he was in office. What other leader of any other country at that time would have stood up to Russia & Cuba like he did? I didn`t see any other country trying to back JFK on that one.

I also personally feel that Bobby Kennedy, and Martin Luther King would have also been 2 of the greatest Presidents that this country would have seen.



flowerforyou thanks for stopping by my brother Ed /// Rara 777 flowerforyou


drinker Yes, i agree that Martin & Bobby would have made great presidents drinker


pitchfork It is a shame that evil ones devil of this world are so bent pitchfork


sad on killing the good people of this world sad


flowers but the tables shall turn one day & Good shall ultimately prevail flowers