Topic: Stepping back......
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Thu 05/17/07 12:10 AM
and looking at ourselves is a good exercise.
I have done so yesterday and some of the things I saw I didn't.
Some replies to posts were harsh, I could have prevented that, had I
just thought a moment longer.
But there are others.
There are some posts here where the meaning of the written words
were different to the message I got from them.
They make me feel uncomfortable because I somehow am not able
to get my heart and my head together about them.
Can I trust my feelings?
I generally do, but now I'm confused.
I thought if I read them more often, I will understand, but I still
don't. I'm still confused.
And I have prayed for understanding, yet it will not come.
What shall I do now?
Just ignore them?
Will I say what I feel about them?
And if, how could I do that without being insulting?

Differentkindofwench's photo
Thu 05/17/07 12:15 AM
I don't think you've been "Uhhhh, did you see what she just said?"
insulting. Sometimes you're a little sarcastic, but you definitely get
your point across. Be who you are. Say what you believe. Is that not
the purpose of a forum?

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Thu 05/17/07 12:18 AM
Different spoke wisdom Invisible...

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Thu 05/17/07 12:19 AM
But how do I tell somebody that to me he/she sounds insincere
and pretentious. That these are the feelings I get from their posts? At
the end of the day it is only MY feeling, and I might
get it totally wrong.

AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 05/17/07 12:19 AM
Since you have prayed for understanding it will come.

Put it aside and have faith.

When it comes to you you will know it and your faith will strengthin.
Peace for a moment will be yours then doubt will again rush in. Seize
upon the peace. The doubt is but a fleeting thing which has no
strength.

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Thu 05/17/07 05:36 AM
here's what i do.....if i take affect...


first i have to recognize that i am taking affect, hahhahaa so i notice
this by my emotional reaction.

then i ask myself why did that push a button?
and is it important to say something or more important to look in the
mirror at how i am somehow doing the same thing...

that's not always so easy,
sometimes it appears to be clear to me that i am NOT like THAT, but when
i look a little closer, not at the topic but at the
defensiveness...ahhhhhh then some light shines in , hahahhaaa...ah yes
my attachments.... those insideous little things that often
unconsciously dictate a reaction (from where ?)

those attachments to ideals, to concepts, to beliefs, oh yes those! and
they have to stay intact because they alow me to control my world !
which would be WHO KNOWS WHAT ?!!! if i lost control!!!

imagine that to loosen the attachment to some of the ways we believe we
have to be , is not losing the concept or the belief , but just flexing
it, adapting it to what is what in the moment, choosing basically, to be
appropriate. simple.


hahhahahhahaaaaaa

so i evaluate.... smile, say "thank you" to the perp for giving me the
opportunity to look (AGAIN LOL) and to exercise consciousness..

when i remember that it is only my ego that is getting upset and look at
why..the process neutralizes my emotions and sanity returns



good luck sweet woman! hahhahaha sometimes i also get really tired of
draggin this human around with me .....hahahhahaahaaaa


xxxx

alex

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Thu 05/17/07 05:45 AM
Thank you Alexflowerforyou flowerforyou

RainbowTrout's photo
Thu 05/17/07 02:18 PM
I think what we read has an effect on how we view things. For instance,
"If thy telephone offends thee then pluck it out. It is better that thy
bills come through the mail then to have some creditor continually
harrassing thee."laugh

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Thu 05/17/07 02:39 PM
Roy laugh laugh

Redykeulous's photo
Thu 05/17/07 03:37 PM
Invisible, I think Alex explains best what I do so naturally, that I
couldn't think how to explain. There is one small difference, I think
for me. When someone offends me or comes off as pretentious, or
obnoxious, and I really don't know them that well, I always try to find
a way to learn more about them. Maybe they're having a bad day (or year
or life lol)or maybe they don't express themselves well in writing or in
public or whatever. Then I, carefully, try to formulate a question or
series of questions that might seem to be indulging that person. You
see my intention, is always to understand, but no one wants to play the
fool, so I always try to give just enough room for the true nature of a
person to come out, and unfortunately, that often means I extend enough
rope for them to hang themselves.

Most of my friends like this about me as they see as me giving everyone
the benefit of the doubt or even a chance to redeem themselves. I'm
not sure I really do like this about me, but I do know that it has saved
me and/or my friends, from a lot of cruel intentions and potentially bad
situations. It has also given me the happy opportunity to know people I
might otherwise have simply flipped off and walked away from.

I personally love your straight forwardness, and I have seen no lack of
your ability to apologise if or when you deem it necessary. THAT, is an
attribute many others could learn from.

scttrbrain's photo
Thu 05/17/07 06:13 PM
If you feel that emotional about something and are afraid to hurt,
bother, make mad. Then take it private mail. Simple.
Katflowerforyou

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Fri 05/18/07 01:26 AM
It's going to be OK. Sometimes it doesn't feel that way, but then
something small happens and things start to clear up.


michael

JaneBond's photo
Fri 05/18/07 04:01 AM
I know how you are feeling. Have been there. Alex summed it up in one
great way to look at it, about someone pushing your button and you
reacting or feeling the way you did. A few others also posted a
reasonable explanation. But, at the end of the day, there are some
people who thrive on pushing buttons, lol. Is a fact of life. No
getting around or away from them hun.

It's not always you or me or the next person, or that we are sensitive
or taking something out of context...sometimes someone is being
maliscious and posting stuff to push buttons. That's when true colors
shine..... Your colors are bright and genuine. Don't let some knobber
push your buttons or pull your chain, they are not worth it. If it gets
to that point, step out of this forum and get some fresh air, lol. I
left it for a while to do just that flowerforyou happy bigsmile

Redykeulous's photo
Fri 05/18/07 03:25 PM
nice post jane

tantalizingtulip's photo
Sat 05/19/07 02:07 AM
alas


andrea I have witnessed you pulling many a chains too~!


It sucks to be human.......


and have some posts tug at our hearts and the answer is always inside
you!


thank you

Kimiflowerforyou

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Sat 05/19/07 04:21 AM
kimi.....
























sometimes it licks to be human !!! wanna ice cream?

HaaganDaz here has ....you won't believe it....yep....RASPBERRY STRUDEL
ICE CREAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!flowerforyou :heart:

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Sat 05/19/07 04:33 AM
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....ICE CREAM!!!:tongue:

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Sat 05/19/07 04:46 AM
hi Harry!flowerforyou

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Sat 05/19/07 05:01 AM
Hi Alex!!flowerforyou smooched