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Topic: Who believes a plane hit the Pentagon on 9/11?
Bestinshow's photo
Tue 06/09/09 06:19 AM


Yes i believe that a plane hit the pentagon completely. The hole you saw was after the plane hit and the hole didnt look like a plane because we live in reality and not a cartoon where a plane shape hole is formed by the wings. lol The video proved it the parts on the ground around the area proved it what else do you need to see to prove it.


Please document your proof of this as I have with photos of this wreckage and debris? Where are the wings and engines, luggage and bodies?
Its verry simple all the debris evaporated in the same manner as the support structure of the twin towers.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 06/09/09 06:57 AM

If there was no plane, I would assume the people whose loved ones never came home would wanna' know where they are by now. Human beings had tickets for that flight, "phantom" as it may be to some, and never arrived at their destination.

That's all the proof I need to realize the flight existed.


You have seen interviews with these families who lost loved ones in the flight that supposedly hit the Pentagon? I haven't. There were thousands heard from at Ground Zero who lost loved ones. Why no big stir from the "airline families"?

http://www.rense.com/general68/doomed.htm

Dan99's photo
Tue 06/09/09 07:39 AM
Why are you saying the government, or whoever, did this?

adj4u's photo
Tue 06/09/09 07:42 AM

Why are you saying the government, or whoever, did this?



i thought you were over it

why do you care

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maybe because the govt made plans similar to this in the past

and the info is posted in other 9/11 threads if not in this one

knock yourself out



Dan99's photo
Tue 06/09/09 07:51 AM


Why are you saying the government, or whoever, did this?



i thought you were over it

why do you care

--------

maybe because the govt made plans similar to this in the past

and the info is posted in other 9/11 threads if not in this one

knock yourself out






I am well over it.

But its interesting.

I dont believe in God, but i find religion fascinating.

I am asking a question here to the OP, for HIS opinion on why. So no, im not going to trawl through countless other threads to see what other people think the reasons were.


beachbum069's photo
Tue 06/09/09 07:58 AM


One of my Navy buddies was at the Pentagon. He was search and rescue and he was one of the 1st to go in. There were plane parts and human parts throughout the wing. On e of the best sites for debunking this is:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=6


Out of his own mouth Davin Coburn of PM says they can't "backup" their statements made in this article published in 2005 to Charles Goyette in a radio interview.

http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=158

My friend picked plane and body parts out of wreckage including one of the plane engines and part of the fuselage that still had plane markers on it.

cottonelle's photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:00 AM
this just in from the easter bunny

it was not a plane that hit the pentagon. it was dan in one of those little british compact cars. he didnt mean it though, him and the tooth fairy was on there way home from a late night party at santas crib and were still a bit tipsy. how they walk away from that was a complete miracle

need proof? just ask dan himself

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:01 AM



Why are you saying the government, or whoever, did this?



i thought you were over it

why do you care

--------

maybe because the govt made plans similar to this in the past

and the info is posted in other 9/11 threads if not in this one

knock yourself out






I am well over it.

But its interesting.

I dont believe in God, but i find religion fascinating.

I am asking a question here to the OP, for HIS opinion on why. So no, im not going to trawl through countless other threads to see what other people think the reasons were.




I can't blame anyone because there is no real release of information to justify doing so. I am only saying there is to many unanswered questions to believe the "official" story of any of the events of 9/11, and there seems to be only a real effort in covering up the details, not clarifying them.

He said, she said, only raises more questions (or conspiracy theories as some wish to call them). Why can't we see ALL the information on 9/11? Why are they witholding it? As many seem to believe it is "old news" what is the harm in doing so?

Dan99's photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:02 AM



One of my Navy buddies was at the Pentagon. He was search and rescue and he was one of the 1st to go in. There were plane parts and human parts throughout the wing. On e of the best sites for debunking this is:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=6


Out of his own mouth Davin Coburn of PM says they can't "backup" their statements made in this article published in 2005 to Charles Goyette in a radio interview.

http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=158

My friend picked plane and body parts out of wreckage including one of the plane engines and part of the fuselage that still had plane markers on it.


I guess you or your friend could be lying.

Not that i personally disbelieve you.

But it seems that even a photo of your friend with the severed head of the pilot and his i.d would not be ehough for some people.

franshade's photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:03 AM




Why are you saying the government, or whoever, did this?



i thought you were over it

why do you care

--------

maybe because the govt made plans similar to this in the past

and the info is posted in other 9/11 threads if not in this one

knock yourself out






I am well over it.

But its interesting.

I dont believe in God, but i find religion fascinating.

I am asking a question here to the OP, for HIS opinion on why. So no, im not going to trawl through countless other threads to see what other people think the reasons were.




I can't blame anyone because there is no real release of information to justify doing so. I am only saying there is to many unanswered questions to believe the "official" story of any of the events of 9/11, and there seems to be only a real effort in covering up the details, not clarifying them.

He said, she said, only raises more questions (or conspiracy theories as some wish to call them). Why can't we see ALL the information on 9/11? Why are they witholding it? As many seem to believe it is "old news" what is the harm in doing so?


but Sojourn, who is this "they" you refer to?

Beachbum has stated he personally knows someone who was present at the Pentagon, clearing out debris and human remains. Is this not proof for you?

Dan99's photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:03 AM

this just in from the easter bunny

it was not a plane that hit the pentagon. it was dan in one of those little british compact cars. he didnt mean it though, him and the tooth fairy was on there way home from a late night party at santas crib and were still a bit tipsy. how they walk away from that was a complete miracle

need proof? just ask dan himself



Yeah, i feel pretty bad about it as well.


OOOoooops!

Dan99's photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:09 AM




Why are you saying the government, or whoever, did this?



i thought you were over it

why do you care

--------

maybe because the govt made plans similar to this in the past

and the info is posted in other 9/11 threads if not in this one

knock yourself out






I am well over it.

But its interesting.

I dont believe in God, but i find religion fascinating.

I am asking a question here to the OP, for HIS opinion on why. So no, im not going to trawl through countless other threads to see what other people think the reasons were.




I can't blame anyone because there is no real release of information to justify doing so. I am only saying there is to many unanswered questions to believe the "official" story of any of the events of 9/11, and there seems to be only a real effort in covering up the details, not clarifying them.

He said, she said, only raises more questions (or conspiracy theories as some wish to call them). Why can't we see ALL the information on 9/11? Why are they witholding it? As many seem to believe it is "old news" what is the harm in doing so?


But if it wasnt Muslim terrorists, it must have been the government, right? Who else could have done it? If the goverment did it, there is reason for a cover up, otherwise, there is no need for it.

Maybe the information is sketchy, because the full information is not there. Your government proved itself to be highly disorganised in New Orleans.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:11 AM



One of my Navy buddies was at the Pentagon. He was search and rescue and he was one of the 1st to go in. There were plane parts and human parts throughout the wing. On e of the best sites for debunking this is:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=6


Out of his own mouth Davin Coburn of PM says they can't "backup" their statements made in this article published in 2005 to Charles Goyette in a radio interview.

http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=158

My friend picked plane and body parts out of wreckage including one of the plane engines and part of the fuselage that still had plane markers on it.


There were bodies at the Pentagon for sure. There was metal recovered as well, but a Boeing 757 would have made a mess that made it difficult for firefighters to get their trucks even close to the buildings. The fragments found were "picked up by hand". It would have taken cranes to remove the 2 massive engines alone, and titanium alloy doesn't melt or disintigrate so easily.

I have been at plane crashes, several, small to large, and I'm telling you from personal experience there was not enough debris for a passenger airliner the size of a Boeing 757 to have hit the Pentagon..... NO WAY!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:16 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 06/09/09 08:23 AM





Why are you saying the government, or whoever, did this?



i thought you were over it

why do you care

--------

maybe because the govt made plans similar to this in the past

and the info is posted in other 9/11 threads if not in this one

knock yourself out






I am well over it.

But its interesting.

I dont believe in God, but i find religion fascinating.

I am asking a question here to the OP, for HIS opinion on why. So no, im not going to trawl through countless other threads to see what other people think the reasons were.




I can't blame anyone because there is no real release of information to justify doing so. I am only saying there is to many unanswered questions to believe the "official" story of any of the events of 9/11, and there seems to be only a real effort in covering up the details, not clarifying them.

He said, she said, only raises more questions (or conspiracy theories as some wish to call them). Why can't we see ALL the information on 9/11? Why are they witholding it? As many seem to believe it is "old news" what is the harm in doing so?


But if it wasnt Muslim terrorists, it must have been the government, right? Who else could have done it? If the goverment did it, there is reason for a cover up, otherwise, there is no need for it.

Maybe the information is sketchy, because the full information is not there. Your government proved itself to be highly disorganised in New Orleans.


That is the reason for this post..... the lack of proof for the official story.

No terrorist or group of terrorists living in caves could have deactivated our entire national defense system. If that was the case, we need to know where our tax dollars for its continued use and betterment are going!

cottonelle's photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:16 AM
I am only saying there is to many unanswered questions to believe the "official" story

same way i feel about religon


Your government proved itself to be highly disorganised in New Orleans.

funny you should mention that because conspiracy theories say the government caused the floods...lol

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:20 AM





Why are you saying the government, or whoever, did this?



i thought you were over it

why do you care

--------

maybe because the govt made plans similar to this in the past

and the info is posted in other 9/11 threads if not in this one

knock yourself out






I am well over it.

But its interesting.

I dont believe in God, but i find religion fascinating.

I am asking a question here to the OP, for HIS opinion on why. So no, im not going to trawl through countless other threads to see what other people think the reasons were.




I can't blame anyone because there is no real release of information to justify doing so. I am only saying there is to many unanswered questions to believe the "official" story of any of the events of 9/11, and there seems to be only a real effort in covering up the details, not clarifying them.

He said, she said, only raises more questions (or conspiracy theories as some wish to call them). Why can't we see ALL the information on 9/11? Why are they witholding it? As many seem to believe it is "old news" what is the harm in doing so?


but Sojourn, who is this "they" you refer to?

Beachbum has stated he personally knows someone who was present at the Pentagon, clearing out debris and human remains. Is this not proof for you?


I wish I knew Fran...... too many questions. There were bodies and metal parts, I agree. Too many bodies, not enough wreckage. If you had ever been to a plane crash you would agree.

franshade's photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:23 AM




One of my Navy buddies was at the Pentagon. He was search and rescue and he was one of the 1st to go in. There were plane parts and human parts throughout the wing. On e of the best sites for debunking this is:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=6


Out of his own mouth Davin Coburn of PM says they can't "backup" their statements made in this article published in 2005 to Charles Goyette in a radio interview.

http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=158

My friend picked plane and body parts out of wreckage including one of the plane engines and part of the fuselage that still had plane markers on it.


There were bodies at the Pentagon for sure. There was metal recovered as well, but a Boeing 757 would have made a mess that made it difficult for firefighters to get their trucks even close to the buildings. The fragments found were "picked up by hand". It would have taken cranes to remove the 2 massive engines alone, and titanium alloy doesn't melt or disintigrate so easily.

I have been at plane crashes, several, small to large, and I'm telling you from personal experience there was not enough debris for a passenger airliner the size of a Boeing 757 to have hit the Pentagon..... NO WAY!


This is where I get concerned, you having lived through several plane crashes, have a preconceived idea of what the damages should be, so then you dismiss the account of a person who was present as their info differs from yours.

I will never know whether it was a 757, a 747, a propeller plane that killed and damaged the Pentagon as I was thankfully not present.

But does it really matter???


franshade's photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:25 AM






Why are you saying the government, or whoever, did this?



i thought you were over it

why do you care

--------

maybe because the govt made plans similar to this in the past

and the info is posted in other 9/11 threads if not in this one

knock yourself out






I am well over it.

But its interesting.

I dont believe in God, but i find religion fascinating.

I am asking a question here to the OP, for HIS opinion on why. So no, im not going to trawl through countless other threads to see what other people think the reasons were.




I can't blame anyone because there is no real release of information to justify doing so. I am only saying there is to many unanswered questions to believe the "official" story of any of the events of 9/11, and there seems to be only a real effort in covering up the details, not clarifying them.

He said, she said, only raises more questions (or conspiracy theories as some wish to call them). Why can't we see ALL the information on 9/11? Why are they witholding it? As many seem to believe it is "old news" what is the harm in doing so?


but Sojourn, who is this "they" you refer to?

Beachbum has stated he personally knows someone who was present at the Pentagon, clearing out debris and human remains. Is this not proof for you?


I wish I knew Fran...... too many questions. There were bodies and metal parts, I agree. Too many bodies, not enough wreckage. If you had ever been to a plane crash you would agree.



Glad to say I have neither lost a person to a wreckage nor viewed one first hand.

As for the questions, it's just natural curiousity, but do you realize we can question everything that happens in life, every occurence, and it's our right to do so. We all have the ability to pick and chose what we believe in and what proof we will accept as truth. So will there ever be closure, I doubt it.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:26 AM





One of my Navy buddies was at the Pentagon. He was search and rescue and he was one of the 1st to go in. There were plane parts and human parts throughout the wing. On e of the best sites for debunking this is:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=6


Out of his own mouth Davin Coburn of PM says they can't "backup" their statements made in this article published in 2005 to Charles Goyette in a radio interview.

http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=158

My friend picked plane and body parts out of wreckage including one of the plane engines and part of the fuselage that still had plane markers on it.


There were bodies at the Pentagon for sure. There was metal recovered as well, but a Boeing 757 would have made a mess that made it difficult for firefighters to get their trucks even close to the buildings. The fragments found were "picked up by hand". It would have taken cranes to remove the 2 massive engines alone, and titanium alloy doesn't melt or disintigrate so easily.

I have been at plane crashes, several, small to large, and I'm telling you from personal experience there was not enough debris for a passenger airliner the size of a Boeing 757 to have hit the Pentagon..... NO WAY!


This is where I get concerned, you having lived through several plane crashes, have a preconceived idea of what the damages should be, so then you dismiss the account of a person who was present as their info differs from yours.

I will never know whether it was a 757, a 747, a propeller plane that killed and damaged the Pentagon as I was thankfully not present.

But does it really matter???




Does an unsolved murder of thousands matter? I would like to think so

no photo
Tue 06/09/09 08:26 AM
Edited by ddn122 on Tue 06/09/09 08:31 AM
heres the video



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vnu_yiUzls

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