Topic: Sex before mariage
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Thu 06/25/09 08:34 PM
I have to say that is a good question and i have no answer and for me not to have an opinion is something in its self. I have always been taught that sex was for marriage and i guess we would have to follow what the law says marriage is. Thats why i came in here to see what others had to say.

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Sun 06/28/09 02:06 PM
im 19 and i have dated my number of guys. i am in college and sex is a common encounter in college. however, i know that God has given me the guidelines in how to try and live a righteous life. He gives us free will, and I have chosen to abstain til marriage. I have lost many great guys due to this belief, but thats why I am here- to find the greatest guy for me. We each make our choice and we do what we believe is right for us, and God has given us the brain to reason out that decision for ourselves. So I feel it is completly an indivigual choice.

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Sun 06/28/09 02:09 PM

Question: "What does the Bible say about sex before marriage / premarital sex?"

Answer: There is no Hebrew or Greek word used in the Bible that precisely refers to sex before marriage. The Bible undeniably condemns adultery and sexual immorality, but is sex before marriage considered sexually immoral? According to 1 Corinthians 7:2, “yes” is the clear answer: “But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.” In this verse, Paul states that marriage is the “cure” for sexual immorality. First Corinthians 7:2 is essentially saying that, because people cannot control themselves and so many are having immoral sex outside of marriage, people should get married. Then they can fulfill their passions in a moral way.

Since 1 Corinthians 7:2 clearly includes sex before marriage in the definition of sexual immorality, all of the Bible verses that condemn sexual immorality as being sinful also condemn sex before marriage as sinful. Sex before marriage is included in the biblical definition of sexual immorality. There are numerous Scriptures that declare sex before marriage to be a sin (Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; 10:8; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7). The Bible promotes complete abstinence before marriage. Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).

Far too often we focus on the “recreation” aspect of sex without recognizing that there is another aspect—procreation. Sex within marriage is pleasurable, and God designed it that way. God wants men and women to enjoy sexual activity within the confines of marriage. Song of Solomon and several other Bible passages (such as Proverbs 5:19) clearly describe the pleasure of sex. However, the couple must understand that God’s intent for sex includes producing children. Thus, for a couple to engage in sex before marriage is doubly wrong—they are enjoying pleasures not intended for them, and they are taking a chance of creating a human life outside of the family structure God intended for every child.

While practicality does not determine right from wrong, if the Bible's message on sex before marriage were obeyed, there would be far fewer sexually transmitted diseases, far fewer abortions, far fewer unwed mothers and unwanted pregnancies, and far fewer children growing up without both parents in their lives. Abstinence is God’s only policy when it comes to sex before marriage. Abstinence saves lives, protects babies, gives sexual relations the proper value, and, most importantly, honors God


Very Well Spoken! :smile:

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Mon 06/29/09 09:58 AM
No we should not have sex before marriage,the bible says it is a sin to have sexual relations outside of marriage,it is better to marry then to burn(burn with desire).However mankind sins on a daily basis even Christians,god expects us to try not to sin.

If we happen to fall we can repent then all is made new with the lord,Christ said all forgiven sins are wiped clean.

This does not give us a license to sin however,we must strive to perfection,god knows we will never be perfect this is why his son died on the cross,because of man kinds sinful nature.If one must have sexual relations outside of marriage,then one must also repent of said sin and seek gods forgiveness,he only expects us to try or best to live in his holy word.

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Mon 06/29/09 04:57 PM
waving Hi Ron and everyone!



Another question: If God ment sex to be enjoyed in marriage and to procreate. Should sex be avoided by those unable to father or give birth to a baby or too old to become pregnet.



I believe that God would still want the married couple to be together and enjoy the intimacy shared and pleasure of sex within the marital covenant. Abraham and Sarah are an example of a couple that continued to try and conceive and eventually had Isaac at a very old age. They believed God’s word and He credited to Abraham as righteousness. (Genesis 17 & 21:1-7, Romans 4:3, Galatians 3:6, & James 2:23)

Hannah was a lady that was unable to conceive with her husband Elkanah. She continued to seek the Lord by praying fervently out of her anguish and grief. The priest blessed her and the Lord opened up her womb and she had a son whom she named “Samuel” meaning, “Because I have asked the Lord for him.” (1 Samuel 1-2:11)

An example from the New Testament would be Zechariah and Elizabeth in Luke 1. Elizabeth was barren even though they were devout servants of God. An angel came to Zechariah and told him that his prayer had been heard and explained to him that he and his wife would have a son, and not just any son, but John the Baptist that would prepare the way of our Lord Jesus Christ. Zechariah was doubtful and asked how that could be since he and Elizabeth were well along in years and for doubting his mouth was shut until after the baby was born and he named him John.

There are probably more, but these are the ones that I thought of right away. To those unable to conceive I would advise you to pray and ask God. I know a couple who tried to conceive for over 10 years to no avail. They prayed and decided to adopt and were blessed with a beautiful baby girl. After their daughter was a year old, she became pregnant and had a son. I know of other similar stories or couples who have felt called to foster care and adopted many children from there and love them as their own. God’s ways are not our ways, but His ways are always best!

flowerforyou :heart:

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Fri 07/03/09 12:09 PM

Well I suppose then that people should be having less children? Because that divorce rate is pretty high, MAYBE they should stay together in an unhealthy relationship, and have kids..

yeah, kids will make it better...


weeee! idealisim.

Perfect relaionships, and marriages arent out there. How about children who are motherless, and fatherless? Both parents are soooo supposed to be there, well, if theyre not, we shouldnt remarry, and be with someone else?

So its important to have both parents, but then a sin when the one parent leaves, or you must divorce them, because theyre abusive of the relationship, or you, so you should still remain single?

Marriage doesnt guarantee spiritual joining in the name of the holy spirit.

Im having sex, and I do not ever want marriage. Marriage guarantees nothing, been there, its not magic. The day after the ceremony, and money spent, are two of the same people, nothing changes, except now, you are both legally tied.

Get married if you like, I have nothing against it.

Not for me.

Yes I think both of those types of people should parent.

And, if God gives us children as a blessing, then how could it be a sin to be pregnant maried or unmarried? I dont believe God allows a woman to be pregnant if he didnt want it to happen.



I think the whole point is to make a commitment to God and your spouse and keep your commitment even if it hurts. When people believe that divorce is not an option, they will work harder to keep their marriage healthy so they don’t have to live so miserably. The problem is, it takes two and each has a free will. In our society today, we think the answer is to move on in hopes of something better instead of doing the hard work it takes to succeed.

Psalm 15:4 (New Living Translation)
4b - and honor the faithful followers of the LORD,
and keep their promises even when it hurts.

NKJV - 4b He who swears to his own hurt and does not change;

NIV – 4b who keeps his oath even when it hurts,

CEV – 4b And they keep their promises, no matter what the cost.

I did not become ‘born again’ until I was 27. I identified with the church and believed in God, I prayed regularly and would receive answers; I called myself a Christian, yet had never read the Bible or given my life to Jesus. When I read Acts 10 & 11, I realized that I was a lot like Cornelius. Thank God for my friend who loved me enough and was patient enough to share the Truth and get me out of religion and into relationship!

I began making friends in Christian circles and I was surprised how similar our marital problems were. Some had been raised in loving Christian homes and my ex and I were x drinkers/daily pot smokers that came from very broken, messed up homes, yet, we still faced quite a few of the same problems.

I realized that there are no perfect marriages. Some have it easier due to their upbringing and the examples that they were shown, yet, they will face trials, temptations, and denial of self that comes with any lasting relationship (be it marriage, children, or friendship).

Successful relationships take a lot of work and sacrifice. It doesn’t seem that way at first, but once the newness wears off (and eventually it will), both parties have to be willing to overlook the others weaknesses and work to build each other up or ‘edify’. It takes a commitment to do what is necessary to make it work and a forgiving heart.

It is when one moves past the infatuation love and moves on to the agape love, (which is a supernatural love that is selfless and prefers another above oneself), that lasting relationships or true love takes root.

The Bible likens the husband and wife to Christ and his bride (the church). In order to have a close, intimate relationship with God, one must do certain things such as reading the word to renew our minds to know Gods will, pray, fellowship with other believers, attend church and serve regularly, worship, praise, etc. to build a true relationship.

Jesus was our ultimate example in that he loved not his life unto death and laid down his life for his friends. While we were still sinners, he loved us and for the joy set before Him endured the cross knowing that he was giving His life as an atoning sacrifice for all that would accept Him.

He showed us the example on how to love and serve one another and said that He came not to be served but to serve. Now that is a crucifying of the flesh and Jesus tells us to take up our cross and follow Him. When we enter into a marriage covenant, we have to crucify our flesh from having our own way all the time.

We should aspire to learn about the other person and want to bring happiness into their life. We should be willing to lay down our own wants and desires for them. Otherwise, one or both may become selfish, mostly caring about what is best for them.

We need to study the word to find out what a Biblical marriage looks like and be yielded and willing to let the Lord correct us as needed.

There is even more crucifying when you add children into the mix...

You are right earthytaurus76, there are no perfect relationships. I think it is when we expect the other person to be ‘perfect’, that relationships are set up to fail. What is perfection? That is subjective and no person will ever be able to meet all of our wants, needs, or desires.

That is why it is so important to nurture our most important relationship, our relationship with God, so that we are not needy or expecting a person to be someone that they are not. I’m not perfect! No one is, but I don’t think that should keep us from marriage.


Questions…

Was our society more loving and family oriented when couples stayed together for the sake of their family, children, and friends or in our society now where people don’t commit? Was it perfect then? No! Is it better now?

Are people happier now than say around 50 years ago? Are communities stronger? Do neighbors watch out for each others families? Help one another? Do we even know all the families on our block? Do we care?

Who doesn’t long in their heart for a committed, loyal, monogamous relationship with the ending being you and your spouse best friends, seeing your children’s children, knowing each other so intimately that you know each others thoughts with only a glance, still holding hands after the fiftieth wedding anniversary, and experiencing and exploring all life on earth has to offer before finally going home?



Eph 5:21-33

[21Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.

24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,

27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.

28In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church—

30for we are members of his body. 31"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."

32This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

flowerforyou:heart:

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Sat 07/04/09 07:33 AM


Well I suppose then that people should be having less children? Because that divorce rate is pretty high, MAYBE they should stay together in an unhealthy relationship, and have kids..

yeah, kids will make it better...


weeee! idealisim.

Perfect relaionships, and marriages arent out there. How about children who are motherless, and fatherless? Both parents are soooo supposed to be there, well, if theyre not, we shouldnt remarry, and be with someone else?

So its important to have both parents, but then a sin when the one parent leaves, or you must divorce them, because theyre abusive of the relationship, or you, so you should still remain single?

Marriage doesnt guarantee spiritual joining in the name of the holy spirit.

Im having sex, and I do not ever want marriage. Marriage guarantees nothing, been there, its not magic. The day after the ceremony, and money spent, are two of the same people, nothing changes, except now, you are both legally tied.

Get married if you like, I have nothing against it.

Not for me.

Yes I think both of those types of people should parent.

And, if God gives us children as a blessing, then how could it be a sin to be pregnant maried or unmarried? I dont believe God allows a woman to be pregnant if he didnt want it to happen.



I think the whole point is to make a commitment to God and your spouse and keep your commitment even if it hurts. When people believe that divorce is not an option, they will work harder to keep their marriage healthy so they don’t have to live so miserably. The problem is, it takes two and each has a free will. In our society today, we think the answer is to move on in hopes of something better instead of doing the hard work it takes to succeed.

Psalm 15:4 (New Living Translation)
4b - and honor the faithful followers of the LORD,
and keep their promises even when it hurts.

NKJV - 4b He who swears to his own hurt and does not change;

NIV – 4b who keeps his oath even when it hurts,

CEV – 4b And they keep their promises, no matter what the cost.

I did not become ‘born again’ until I was 27. I identified with the church and believed in God, I prayed regularly and would receive answers; I called myself a Christian, yet had never read the Bible or given my life to Jesus. When I read Acts 10 & 11, I realized that I was a lot like Cornelius. Thank God for my friend who loved me enough and was patient enough to share the Truth and get me out of religion and into relationship!

I began making friends in Christian circles and I was surprised how similar our marital problems were. Some had been raised in loving Christian homes and my ex and I were x drinkers/daily pot smokers that came from very broken, messed up homes, yet, we still faced quite a few of the same problems.

I realized that there are no perfect marriages. Some have it easier due to their upbringing and the examples that they were shown, yet, they will face trials, temptations, and denial of self that comes with any lasting relationship (be it marriage, children, or friendship).

Successful relationships take a lot of work and sacrifice. It doesn’t seem that way at first, but once the newness wears off (and eventually it will), both parties have to be willing to overlook the others weaknesses and work to build each other up or ‘edify’. It takes a commitment to do what is necessary to make it work and a forgiving heart.

It is when one moves past the infatuation love and moves on to the agape love, (which is a supernatural love that is selfless and prefers another above oneself), that lasting relationships or true love takes root.

The Bible likens the husband and wife to Christ and his bride (the church). In order to have a close, intimate relationship with God, one must do certain things such as reading the word to renew our minds to know Gods will, pray, fellowship with other believers, attend church and serve regularly, worship, praise, etc. to build a true relationship.

Jesus was our ultimate example in that he loved not his life unto death and laid down his life for his friends. While we were still sinners, he loved us and for the joy set before Him endured the cross knowing that he was giving His life as an atoning sacrifice for all that would accept Him.

He showed us the example on how to love and serve one another and said that He came not to be served but to serve. Now that is a crucifying of the flesh and Jesus tells us to take up our cross and follow Him. When we enter into a marriage covenant, we have to crucify our flesh from having our own way all the time.

We should aspire to learn about the other person and want to bring happiness into their life. We should be willing to lay down our own wants and desires for them. Otherwise, one or both may become selfish, mostly caring about what is best for them.

We need to study the word to find out what a Biblical marriage looks like and be yielded and willing to let the Lord correct us as needed.

There is even more crucifying when you add children into the mix...

You are right earthytaurus76, there are no perfect relationships. I think it is when we expect the other person to be ‘perfect’, that relationships are set up to fail. What is perfection? That is subjective and no person will ever be able to meet all of our wants, needs, or desires.

That is why it is so important to nurture our most important relationship, our relationship with God, so that we are not needy or expecting a person to be someone that they are not. I’m not perfect! No one is, but I don’t think that should keep us from marriage.


Questions…

Was our society more loving and family oriented when couples stayed together for the sake of their family, children, and friends or in our society now where people don’t commit? Was it perfect then? No! Is it better now?

Are people happier now than say around 50 years ago? Are communities stronger? Do neighbors watch out for each others families? Help one another? Do we even know all the families on our block? Do we care?

Who doesn’t long in their heart for a committed, loyal, monogamous relationship with the ending being you and your spouse best friends, seeing your children’s children, knowing each other so intimately that you know each others thoughts with only a glance, still holding hands after the fiftieth wedding anniversary, and experiencing and exploring all life on earth has to offer before finally going home?



Eph 5:21-33

[21Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.

24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,

27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.

28In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church—

30for we are members of his body. 31"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."

32This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

flowerforyou:heart:




Your Questions are oh so real and so sad. It's a me me me generation that throws away anything they want.. A fast pace society to where morals have been outdated to them.... Blessings of Shalom...Miles

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Mon 07/06/09 07:29 PM
I have answer for your question first ask yourself would jesus our lord and savior want you to have sex with a woman if you werent married no he wouldnt so why questiom what the bible tells you about and FYI SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE IS CLASSIFIED AS FORNICATION

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Wed 07/08/09 10:02 AM

I have answer for your question first ask yourself would jesus our lord and savior want you to have sex with a woman if you werent married no he wouldnt so why questiom what the bible tells you about and FYI SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE IS CLASSIFIED AS FORNICATION


Fornication is before Marraige. It is not classified as Adultry.

Where does it say this?


I am not saying to do this what I am saying is thier is a difference.

Adultry is when one person at least is already married. This destroys families and Yahweh does not take it lightly. Adultry is also put on the person who committed it for future mates. They simply are not to marry again as the other is allowed.

But the Bible does not state when a marraige happens except it leads towards when a sexual encounter happens you are to marry. It is a VOW to each other and Yahweh.

No paper needed only in a divorce is a paper needed. Shalom...Miles

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Thu 07/09/09 02:10 AM
Edited by earthytaurus76 on Thu 07/09/09 02:27 AM
Thanks Miles. You are very wise.



Yeah, Im not changing my views.

Ive read proverbs woman.. I get the whole thing. I experience spiritual joining with another without the church, I dont believe in involving a priest, or legality.

I have had soulmates given to me by God, not because I just CHOOSE someone. The joining is God, and when it is gone, its Gods choice.

Nope I dont believe in staying together in an unhealthy relationship, and neither does the bible say so, just for the sake of marriage, but the opposite.


The being able to communicate in the spirit, and not just verbally, the known connection.

I dont believe there is just one person for every person, maybe not even only 2 or 3... could be 10.

If your dealing with joining in the holy spirit, I dont need anyone telling me I have their approval above my GOD.

Marriage is a spiritual joining, of God, your partner, and you with the holy spirit, and as I have before stated not always present whats considered marriage that comes with a ceremony, or law of the land.

Noones going to tell me what I know is right for me, and no church is going to dictate what I do legally with my loved ones PERIOD. I do it by God.


If I choose spiritual counsiling I will go for it, not because someone misinterprets written word, or forces a ceremony, and legal joining.

I dont mind church, but I dont believe in having to seek a priest, or pastor unless you want to. A priest or pastor is not God.

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Thu 07/09/09 01:03 PM
Hi,

With in the 10 commandments it states 'Thou shalt not commit adultery'. In the modern sense of the word adultery refers to having an affair. In the biblical sense of the word this relates to all sexual impurity.

God created man and woman so that they may be together but only within the confines of marriage.

God created these rules not to hinder us but to protect us. If we save ourselves for the person we marry we then avoid all the problems that come with having sex before marriage whether that be a child or STI's amongst other things.

God gave us free will and knows that we will always fall short in our desire to be like Jesus. This is the reason Jesus had to die on the cross to save us from our sin as God knows that even on our most righteous of days we are like dirty rags.

In 2 Timothy 2:22 it says "Run away from anything that stimulates youthful lusts. Instead, pursue righteous living, faithfulness, love and peace. Enjoy the companionship of those who call on the Lord with pure hearts.

It is impure to have have sex before marriage but it is also impure to even think of someone in a lustful way. So we will always fall short, by how much and what you do about it is your choice. Seek to avoid the situations and pray that the Lord will strengthen you to not have those thoughts.

In 1 Corinthians v1 and 2 it says "Yes it is good to live a celibate life. But because there is so much sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman should have her own husband."

Sex is for the confines of marriage and is a perfectly beautiful and Godly thing when done according to his word.

Hope that helps,

God bless

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Fri 07/10/09 01:46 AM

Hi,

With in the 10 commandments it states 'Thou shalt not commit adultery'. In the modern sense of the word adultery refers to having an affair. In the biblical sense of the word this relates to all sexual impurity.

God created man and woman so that they may be together but only within the confines of marriage.

God created these rules not to hinder us but to protect us. If we save ourselves for the person we marry we then avoid all the problems that come with having sex before marriage whether that be a child or STI's amongst other things.

God gave us free will and knows that we will always fall short in our desire to be like Jesus. This is the reason Jesus had to die on the cross to save us from our sin as God knows that even on our most righteous of days we are like dirty rags.

In 2 Timothy 2:22 it says "Run away from anything that stimulates youthful lusts. Instead, pursue righteous living, faithfulness, love and peace. Enjoy the companionship of those who call on the Lord with pure hearts.

It is impure to have have sex before marriage but it is also impure to even think of someone in a lustful way. So we will always fall short, by how much and what you do about it is your choice. Seek to avoid the situations and pray that the Lord will strengthen you to not have those thoughts.

In 1 Corinthians v1 and 2 it says "Yes it is good to live a celibate life. But because there is so much sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman should have her own husband."

Sex is for the confines of marriage and is a perfectly beautiful and Godly thing when done according to his word.

Hope that helps,

God bless



Then Fornication and adultry is the same thing?

Is that what u are saying?

Also was Adam and Eve Married?

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Fri 07/10/09 09:41 AM


Hi,

With in the 10 commandments it states 'Thou shalt not commit adultery'. In the modern sense of the word adultery refers to having an affair. In the biblical sense of the word this relates to all sexual impurity.

God created man and woman so that they may be together but only within the confines of marriage.

God created these rules not to hinder us but to protect us. If we save ourselves for the person we marry we then avoid all the problems that come with having sex before marriage whether that be a child or STI's amongst other things.

God gave us free will and knows that we will always fall short in our desire to be like Jesus. This is the reason Jesus had to die on the cross to save us from our sin as God knows that even on our most righteous of days we are like dirty rags.

In 2 Timothy 2:22 it says "Run away from anything that stimulates youthful lusts. Instead, pursue righteous living, faithfulness, love and peace. Enjoy the companionship of those who call on the Lord with pure hearts.

It is impure to have have sex before marriage but it is also impure to even think of someone in a lustful way. So we will always fall short, by how much and what you do about it is your choice. Seek to avoid the situations and pray that the Lord will strengthen you to not have those thoughts.

In 1 Corinthians v1 and 2 it says "Yes it is good to live a celibate life. But because there is so much sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman should have her own husband."

Sex is for the confines of marriage and is a perfectly beautiful and Godly thing when done according to his word.

Hope that helps,

God bless



Then Fornication and adultry is the same thing?

Is that what u are saying?

Also was Adam and Eve Married?


God gave Eve to Adam just like a father gives a daughter to her husband. Eve was created by God for Adam. She was his perfect other half. So yeah I would think they were married, does the bible say anything about that specifically? Would it have to?

God has made a man for every woman and a woman for every man that we are to marry cause after all he knows best. And we get married before God.. So if Eve was given to Adam then was god not marrying them himself?

That's the problem with marriage these days. Who allows god to pick there suitor anymore. What a blessing it would be to be with your other half. Of course to receive his blessings you would have to follow his laws. It's a step by step process. With no exceptions. The road to him is straight and narrow, which means to me no wiggle room.

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Fri 07/10/09 02:05 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Fri 07/10/09 02:08 PM



Hi,

With in the 10 commandments it states 'Thou shalt not commit adultery'. In the modern sense of the word adultery refers to having an affair. In the biblical sense of the word this relates to all sexual impurity.

God created man and woman so that they may be together but only within the confines of marriage.

God created these rules not to hinder us but to protect us. If we save ourselves for the person we marry we then avoid all the problems that come with having sex before marriage whether that be a child or STI's amongst other things.

God gave us free will and knows that we will always fall short in our desire to be like Jesus. This is the reason Jesus had to die on the cross to save us from our sin as God knows that even on our most righteous of days we are like dirty rags.

In 2 Timothy 2:22 it says "Run away from anything that stimulates youthful lusts. Instead, pursue righteous living, faithfulness, love and peace. Enjoy the companionship of those who call on the Lord with pure hearts.

It is impure to have have sex before marriage but it is also impure to even think of someone in a lustful way. So we will always fall short, by how much and what you do about it is your choice. Seek to avoid the situations and pray that the Lord will strengthen you to not have those thoughts.

In 1 Corinthians v1 and 2 it says "Yes it is good to live a celibate life. But because there is so much sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman should have her own husband."

Sex is for the confines of marriage and is a perfectly beautiful and Godly thing when done according to his word.

Hope that helps,

God bless



Then Fornication and adultry is the same thing?

Is that what u are saying?

Also was Adam and Eve Married?


God gave Eve to Adam just like a father gives a daughter to her husband. Eve was created by God for Adam. She was his perfect other half. So yeah I would think they were married, does the bible say anything about that specifically? Would it have to?

God has made a man for every woman and a woman for every man that we are to marry cause after all he knows best. And we get married before God.. So if Eve was given to Adam then was god not marrying them himself?

That's the problem with marriage these days. Who allows god to pick there suitor anymore. What a blessing it would be to be with your other half. Of course to receive his blessings you would have to follow his laws. It's a step by step process. With no exceptions. The road to him is straight and narrow, which means to me no wiggle room.



Joseph took Mary as his wife because she was pregnant.

Can you find me anywhere in the scriptures that the consulmation of marraige is not the sexual act?


If not then all marraiges in this form is fornication.

You are then one as when Eve was made the Paleo Hebbrew is Tesla.

This word means womb or chamber. This is how we got the word woman from even.

Yahweh did not take a rib from ADAM HE TOOK HIS WOMB AND THEN HE CLOSED HIM UP.. aS THE SCRIPTURES SAY AND AS yAHSHUA SAID we are not given in marraige in the kingdom we are like the angels as Adam was created.

Marraige is the sexual act period that is why Adultry is so forbidden. Two people would have more than 1 spouce they would be sharing him or her. This makes it a sin against your own body.

Because as Adam was made a Mystery evolved and confusion follows with adultry... Shalom...Miles

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Fri 07/10/09 05:01 PM
I suppose I see this a little different. I think that sex before marriage is okay, so long as you're with someone you truly care about. I think the original law was more because of the lack of protection and more about sexual immorality in general. Much like many of the original things for cleanliness were due to them not knowing about germs and such. Sex before marriage back in the day could lead to a string of fatherless children and rampant STDs.

Also this from Matthew 7:2.
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

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Sat 07/11/09 05:13 AM

I suppose I see this a little different. I think that sex before marriage is okay, so long as you're with someone you truly care about. I think the original law was more because of the lack of protection and more about sexual immorality in general. Much like many of the original things for cleanliness were due to them not knowing about germs and such. Sex before marriage back in the day could lead to a string of fatherless children and rampant STDs.

Also this from Matthew 7:2.
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.


And they don't lead to a string of fatherless children and rampant STD's today?

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Sat 07/11/09 11:56 AM


I suppose I see this a little different. I think that sex before marriage is okay, so long as you're with someone you truly care about. I think the original law was more because of the lack of protection and more about sexual immorality in general. Much like many of the original things for cleanliness were due to them not knowing about germs and such. Sex before marriage back in the day could lead to a string of fatherless children and rampant STDs.

Also this from Matthew 7:2.
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.


And they don't lead to a string of fatherless children and rampant STD's today?

As long as you're not a moron, no. The problem is that so many people are idiots.

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Sat 07/11/09 02:25 PM
Also, you have to exclude the people that are just out getting laid. I said only with people you truly care about. That skews the numbers a ton.

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Sun 07/12/09 04:54 AM
Edited by Conservitive_Hippie on Sun 07/12/09 04:54 AM

I don't think the times effect the point I was trying to make. Whether or not the ppl of the old days knew about STD's or not, God knew and thus the rules regarding sex. It's funny cause STD's are still being spread these days like wildfire. The only difference is that we actually know about them now, and yet we still think we know better then God and you have all the problems that come with the sin of sexual impurity today as you had back then. So yes collectively people now are idiots and sinners and the people back then were ignorant sinners. Either way Gods rules are there for a reason and he never gave any indication for them to be obsolete after any length of time.

And God designed sex to be an expression of love for the woman he designed for you. Let's not forget about that as well. Not many people these days allow God to work in their lives let alone choose who they marry.

To each his own I say but I'll wait till I'm married, I have plenty of other things to enjoy in life I don't feel I have to have sex.

There are a lot of problems we have these days that would go away if we just listened to God and practiced the wisdom taught in the bible.

But if you think you know better then by all means good luck to you. I do not know better then God so I will stick to the rules. Better safe then sorry.

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Sun 07/12/09 12:44 PM
It's not about knowing better. It's about interpreting different.