This is not a nice guy thread. It's an anti-shallow thread for both sexes.

I'm sick of women complaining "He just wants sex"...and they only go for guys that look like complete pricks. I'm a guy, know a lot of guys, and I can immediately spot a good man from a prick. You can just tell. But women are physically drawn to the bad boy/a$$hole look...the guy with the mean looking face and/or big muscles.

Same with men. They're attracted to the "sexy" girls that have the body type that suits them and a hot, b*tchy face.

This is because both of these type of men and women represent a challenge. The regular, cute girl or guy is too easy to get, is widespread in society, and doesn't represent anything of power or status. Getting and taming the hot guy or girl means "Wow I'm special. I attracted this person."

I had a woman tell me that she only dates guys that have athletic bodies and work out. Her explanation "I can't help what I'm attracted to." Her explanation should have been "I can't help what I'm sexually drawn to." I can't help that I'm only attracted to white women who keep themselves in shape, but I can stop myself for going for girly girl bimbos with huge breasts. The general attraction rule applies, but saying "I only like muscles" is like a guy saying "I only like D cups."

My solution (and this will never happen because the a$$hole guy will never commit to anyone, even his female counterpart, the hot girl), the hot people date each other. They're both excessively concerned about appearance, high-maintenance. The guy gets all the hot sex he wants and the girl has the arm candy and validation she wants.

I hear what you are saying... But I'm only attracted to nice girls (and boys) no matter what their physical appearance is like.

Then again, all through my twenties, I was pretty shallow and paid a hefty price in heart aches and drama.

I suppose we get wiser as we get older.

I'm gonna be a genius by the time I'm laid out in my coffin.

Yeah, this is a nice guy thread. Instead of complaining about it why not do whatever it takes to attract women? Have you ever tried being a compleat jerk? It's fun! You just don't care what others (women) think of you. No woman is ever good enough for you. She can never please you no matter how hard she tries.

It's a Zen Koen. Women are like cats. If you can become the strang they will chase you.

That's why you're 47 and on a dating site.

We are so not like cats !

And you're 25 and on a dating site. AND you're an engineer. AND your post portays you as hopelessly superficial. Ok...

'Nuff said. Hopefully.

Think about the kind of woman you just described. Why the hell would you want to attract someone that thought like that? Seems kinda silly to be complaining about not having something that would make you miserable anyway. Think about it.

I'm on here for the forums (thus no pic) and to pass time at work. And "my type" is very doable...but unfortunately for you it isn't overweight middle aged women either.

The "challenge" argument seems valid, in many cases. I have spoken with a number of women who believe it is their role to find someone who needs fixing and then fix him. They see it as a "challenge," and have even used that word to describe it.

I see it as less a "challenge" than an attempt to impose arbitrarily-determined behaviors onto another person, but that's a problem of a different stripe entirely.

Applying this terminology to my own situation, I suppose that my "challenge" then becomes the attempt to find someone who can write in complete sentences, spell properly, and use punctuation correctly.

One wonders at what point a "challenge" becomes an "impossibility"....!

Why does it say that you are on here for dating then???? Hmmm.

Hmm. I assume you meant to insult me by calling me middle aged and overweight.

I'm 9 years older than you, and hardly overweight. So sad that's all you got.

Don't forget more mature and intelligent too

i'll knock em down you pick em up

ROFL!

If you are going fishing would you ask a fish for advice?

You can believe tt or not, but I date a lot! I get laid a lot. I used to be a "nice guy" but I changed myself into a jerk and now I get as much tail from young, attractive, smart women as I want. And I never pay for drinks, meals or dates. Why should I pay for a woman to spend time with me? Is she a hooker?

It's really simple. Just go out, have fun and women will come to you because they hate being left out of a great time. That's what it meas to be the string.

This doesn't work on all women. Only the attractive ones. The fat ugly ones will just give you sour grapes and say they'd never date a man like that. They are spoil sports! Who cares what the party poopers think? Go out, have fun, meet lots of fun women and have lots of sex!

And now the party poopers would like to say a few words about STDs. Go right ahead.

You and the OP compliment each other so well, Texas.

So true...

lil,you are one of the most beautiful and intelligent women on the site. we may not always agree, but your wisdom,class and beauty are to behold. be seeing you

Thank you.