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Topic: Basic Rights For everyone (homosexuals not included)
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Tue 05/26/09 11:11 PM
Edited by xxkonstantine125xx on Tue 05/26/09 11:16 PM
Today was the vote to see if we can overturn prop 8's passing, did we take a step forward and stop this hateful proposition from going forward? No we did not. I'm not angry but rather hurt that people can sit there and think that gay marriage is unholy and morally wrong.


Since ignorant people can sit there and say that gay marriage is repulsive and offensive I'm done biting my tongue.

Tonight I watched the news and there was a black preacher who sat there and said "we have many black families that are broken. Children growing up without fathers and this would be wrong, it would affect the black community even more."

For the first time ever I gave religion the middle finger. This preacher who is supposed to preach about love and God sat there and focused on the black community not basic human rights.

Blacks didn't have rights, and neither did women but for a minority to sit there and say this is such a leap backwards.

How would you feel if you couldn't marry because you're significant other were a different race? Had a mental disability? Or because they had blue eyes?

These are all based on genetics things we are born with and are engraved into us.

So for someone to sit there and take away basic rights from US Citizens is wrong, unethical and so hypocritical.

Double Standards suck and so do the people who apply them.

Since I'm focusing on hypocrites and all this nonsense might as well bring up Obama's victory ( OH YES I"M TAKING IT THERE) I voted for the guy, hell I even campaigned.

When he won I was thrilled because we needed change and I don't mean race wise. I was a Hillary supporter but Obama was the lesser of two evils. I didn't care that Obama was half black and I never saw his color of skin, so when black people sat there and said "This is a victory for us blacks, don't try to take it away" it outraged me because it wasn't a victory for blacks, it was a victory for people who wanted change, who saw eye to eye with Obama, it was a victory for people who believed in Obama.

His color of skin was never a factor or a plus for me. I listened to him speak I saw where he stood on topics and I respected him.

When we all stop focusing on color, that's when racism will end. This includes minorities implying that their color of skin is a benefit or on the contrary.

When we can live our lives and not judge, criticize, blame, or put others down that's when we will be able to live in real equality.

The bible was written by man, translated by man and who knows what it really said.
I believe religion is to keep people in control. You may disagree and you are entitled to your opinion.

I'm not religious, but I never knock down or mock religion because I understand we all need something to believe in.

To make this short all I'm trying to say is life your life and be happy, don't let society's ignorance and people who are angry bring you down.

Every civil movement has had obstacles that had to be broken down. Fight the good fight and don't let people's ignorance fill your heart with hate, instead show them the beauty that is in you.

Because if you have the capability to love someone regardless of what people think or say, chances are you have a beautiful soul and don't let anyone taint that.

THIS FIGHT IS NOT OVER MY FRIENDS WE WILL PREVAIL AND BE ABLE TO SAY "I DO", NEVER GIVE UP. MAY YOU BE BLESSED AND LIVE A HAPPY AND FULFILLING LIFE <3

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Tue 05/26/09 11:22 PM

Today was the vote to see if we can overturn prop 8's passing, did we take a step forward and stop this hateful proposition from going forward? No we did not. I'm not angry but rather hurt that people can sit there and think that gay marriage is unholy and morally wrong.


Since ignorant people can sit there and say that gay marriage is repulsive and offensive I'm done biting my tongue.

Tonight I watched the news and there was a black preacher who sat there and said "we have many black families that are broken. Children growing up without fathers and this would be wrong, it would affect the black community even more."

For the first time ever I gave religion the middle finger. This preacher who is supposed to preach about love and God sat there and focused on the black community not basic human rights.

Blacks didn't have rights, and neither did women but for a minority to sit there and say this is such a leap backwards.

How would you feel if you couldn't marry because you're significant other were a different race? Had a mental disability? Or because they had blue eyes?

These are all based on genetics things we are born with and are engraved into us.

So for someone to sit there and take away basic rights from US Citizens is wrong, unethical and so hypocritical.

Double Standards suck and so do the people who apply them.

Since I'm focusing on hypocrites and all this nonsense might as well bring up Obama's victory ( OH YES I"M TAKING IT THERE) I voted for the guy, hell I even campaigned.

When he won I was thrilled because we needed change and I don't mean race wise. I was a Hillary supporter but Obama was the lesser of two evils. I didn't care that Obama was half black and I never saw his color of skin, so when black people sat there and said "This is a victory for us blacks, don't try to take it away" it outraged me because it wasn't a victory for blacks, it was a victory for people who wanted change, who saw eye to eye with Obama, it was a victory for people who believed in Obama.

His color of skin was never a factor or a plus for me. I listened to him speak I saw where he stood on topics and I respected him.

When we all stop focusing on color, that's when racism will end. This includes minorities implying that their color of skin is a benefit or on the contrary.

When we can live our lives and not judge, criticize, blame, or put others down that's when we will be able to live in real equality.

The bible was written by man, translated by man and who knows what it really said.
I believe religion is to keep people in control. You may disagree and you are entitled to your opinion.

I'm not religious, but I never knock down or mock religion because I understand we all need something to believe in.

To make this short all I'm trying to say is life your life and be happy, don't let society's ignorance and people who are angry bring you down.

Every civil movement has had obstacles that had to be broken down. Fight the good fight and don't let people's ignorance fill your heart with hate, instead show them the beauty that is in you.

Because if you have the capability to love someone regardless of what people think or say, chances are you have a beautiful soul and don't let anyone taint that.

THIS FIGHT IS NOT OVER MY FRIENDS WE WILL PREVAIL AND BE ABLE TO SAY "I DO", NEVER GIVE UP. MAY YOU BE BLESSED AND LIVE A HAPPY AND FULFILLING LIFE <3


I was shaking my head as a I said, "Wow"....if I need to explain let me know

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Tue 05/26/09 11:23 PM



I was shaking my head as a I said, "Wow"....if I need to explain let me know


hmm do explain please.

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Tue 05/26/09 11:29 PM




I was shaking my head as a I said, "Wow"....if I need to explain let me know


hmm do explain please.



Its BS

Okay heres my take: (I made a post called "homosexuality" in a thread on here recently check it out)

Homosexuality is not "Wrong" nor should it even be up for discussion in court. Gays and Lesbians are amongst us as humans the same as everyone else. That comment I just made was almost ignorant itself because there should be no gay or lesbian "stereotype." But unfortunately there has to be because of peoples lack of acceptance of reality. People do what they do all of the time. Guess how much it effects me? Zero. None. UNLESS I ALLOW IT TO. People are just bored and they need to "meddle" if thats how you spell it, with things that dont concern them.

Its all just silly. I have lesbians and gays who are my friends...ya think I have to watch them have sex? Or watch them kiss each other because THEY MAKE ME?! Nope...they have sex behind their doors and they only kiss when it is appropriate.

JUST
LIKE
I
DO

It is all just annoying to me how people are so ignorant to the idea. Let it go...we got more things to worry about then gay/lesbians.....I have no problem with it myself.

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Tue 05/26/09 11:35 PM





I was shaking my head as a I said, "Wow"....if I need to explain let me know


hmm do explain please.



Its BS

Okay heres my take: (I made a post called "homosexuality" in a thread on here recently check it out)

Homosexuality is not "Wrong" nor should it even be up for discussion in court. Gays and Lesbians are amongst us as humans the same as everyone else. That comment I just made was almost ignorant itself because there should be no gay or lesbian "stereotype." But unfortunately there has to be because of peoples lack of acceptance of reality. People do what they do all of the time. Guess how much it effects me? Zero. None. UNLESS I ALLOW IT TO. People are just bored and they need to "meddle" if thats how you spell it, with things that dont concern them.

Its all just silly. I have lesbians and gays who are my friends...ya think I have to watch them have sex? Or watch them kiss each other because THEY MAKE ME?! Nope...they have sex behind their doors and they only kiss when it is appropriate.

JUST
LIKE
I
DO

It is all just annoying to me how people are so ignorant to the idea. Let it go...we got more things to worry about then gay/lesbians.....I have no problem with it myself.


Lol I thought you were being sarcastic that's why I asked you to explain. I do agree with you entirely.


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Tue 05/26/09 11:37 PM
Edited by BillySuvol on Tue 05/26/09 11:37 PM



Its BS

Okay heres my take: (I made a post called "homosexuality" in a thread on here recently check it out)

Homosexuality is not "Wrong" nor should it even be up for discussion in court. Gays and Lesbians are amongst us as humans the same as everyone else. That comment I just made was almost ignorant itself because there should be no gay or lesbian "stereotype." But unfortunately there has to be because of peoples lack of acceptance of reality. People do what they do all of the time. Guess how much it effects me? Zero. None. UNLESS I ALLOW IT TO. People are just bored and they need to "meddle" if thats how you spell it, with things that dont concern them.

Its all just silly. I have lesbians and gays who are my friends...ya think I have to watch them have sex? Or watch them kiss each other because THEY MAKE ME?! Nope...they have sex behind their doors and they only kiss when it is appropriate.

JUST
LIKE
I
DO

It is all just annoying to me how people are so ignorant to the idea. Let it go...we got more things to worry about then gay/lesbians.....I have no problem with it myself.


Lol I thought you were being sarcastic that's why I asked you to explain. I do agree with you entirely.




nah.. ;)

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Tue 05/26/09 11:39 PM




Its BS

Okay heres my take: (I made a post called "homosexuality" in a thread on here recently check it out)

Homosexuality is not "Wrong" nor should it even be up for discussion in court. Gays and Lesbians are amongst us as humans the same as everyone else. That comment I just made was almost ignorant itself because there should be no gay or lesbian "stereotype." But unfortunately there has to be because of peoples lack of acceptance of reality. People do what they do all of the time. Guess how much it effects me? Zero. None. UNLESS I ALLOW IT TO. People are just bored and they need to "meddle" if thats how you spell it, with things that dont concern them.

Its all just silly. I have lesbians and gays who are my friends...ya think I have to watch them have sex? Or watch them kiss each other because THEY MAKE ME?! Nope...they have sex behind their doors and they only kiss when it is appropriate.

JUST
LIKE
I
DO

It is all just annoying to me how people are so ignorant to the idea. Let it go...we got more things to worry about then gay/lesbians.....I have no problem with it myself.


Lol I thought you were being sarcastic that's why I asked you to explain. I do agree with you entirely.




nah.. ;)



Lol thank you for being real and understanding :]

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Tue 05/26/09 11:45 PM
i figured everybody else would be scared to comment


so i did


youre cool...im down with that totally....its bs....im with the..."do what you want and screw what people think as long as youre happy and dont hurt anybody else" philosophy

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Tue 05/26/09 11:46 PM

i figured everybody else would be scared to comment


so i did


youre cool...im down with that totally....its bs....im with the..."do what you want and screw what people think as long as youre happy and dont hurt anybody else" philosophy


That's how I live my friend. You're pretty cool yourself :)

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Tue 05/26/09 11:51 PM
bet you have one hell of a story too

i just realized that after all of the things that have happened in life that is what you have to do

people dont get it....but thats part of the concept

those who dont get it....yep...they dont stay around too long

and im happy.....


i love people...all kinds...old young gay straight black white....got no time to descriminate...i do what i think is right

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Tue 05/26/09 11:58 PM

bet you have one hell of a story too

i just realized that after all of the things that have happened in life that is what you have to do

people dont get it....but thats part of the concept

those who dont get it....yep...they dont stay around too long

and im happy.....


i love people...all kinds...old young gay straight black white....got no time to descriminate...i do what i think is right


Every writer has a hell of a story.
I've dealt with so much bashing from society, including my family but I refuse to let that break me.

people just gotta to them, as long as u aint hurting anyone in the process no one gotta worry about it

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Wed 05/27/09 12:00 AM
control

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Wed 05/27/09 12:01 AM

control

control what?

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Wed 05/27/09 12:02 AM
Edited by 7z3r05 on Wed 05/27/09 12:02 AM


control

control what?


its human nature to strive for control. this is just another way of controlling people.

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Wed 05/27/09 12:04 AM
Edited by BillySuvol on Wed 05/27/09 12:05 AM


its human nature to strive for control. this is just another way of controlling people.



gotcha...

right on man..

its stupid tho...but you are so friggin right....like my situation, nothin to do with gays or anything....

but me and my girlfriend broke up like 3 months ago and now were trying to be friends...........and there are those people who dont like it....why? because they want it to be their way, because if it isnt....they arent in control of things.....

nice key in man...i like that

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Wed 05/27/09 12:10 AM



its human nature to strive for control. this is just another way of controlling people.



gotcha...

right on man..

its stupid tho...but you are so friggin right....like my situation, nothin to do with gays or anything....

but me and my girlfriend broke up like 3 months ago and now were trying to be friends...........and there are those people who dont like it....why? because they want it to be their way, because if it isnt....they arent in control of things.....

nice key in man...i like that


Been there with the whole being friends with your ex, it's your choice and hers.

people need to kick rocks

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Wed 05/27/09 12:10 AM
plus a bf and a gf staying friends lacks closure. they may just be looking out for you. same thing happened with me and my ex. my family and friends made me stop talking to her.

but yeah... back to the subject. i have no idea why we waste so much damn time arguing over an issue that isnt going anywhere. its not like you will get into a debate with someone who is either pro gay or anti gay and have the opposition say 'hey, you know what? you are right! what was i thinking?'

just stop wasting time and put it to better use. there are SO many more things worth the frustration and energy.

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Wed 05/27/09 12:12 AM
right

i mean...who better to be your friend if you both can handle it?

who knows you better than the person you have spent most of your time with?

and as long as you both can deal with the other person not being around 24/7 and the fact they will find somebody else one of these days...who cares?

why does everyone else have to "tell you what they think"?

who cares???

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Wed 05/27/09 12:13 AM

plus a bf and a gf staying friends lacks closure. they may just be looking out for you. same thing happened with me and my ex. my family and friends made me stop talking to her.

but yeah... back to the subject. i have no idea why we waste so much damn time arguing over an issue that isnt going anywhere. its not like you will get into a debate with someone who is either pro gay or anti gay and have the opposition say 'hey, you know what? you are right! what was i thinking?'

just stop wasting time and put it to better use. there are SO many more things worth the frustration and energy.


ahh

so u disagree?

hmmm

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Wed 05/27/09 12:15 AM
i dont disagree in a sense of totality. i understand that all situations are different, and that nothing is ever black and white.

im just trying to relate. i couldnt try and be friends with my ex. it would drive me crazy watching some one else date her and kiss her. i needed the finality. but hey, everyones different.

we're all... snowflakes.

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