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I hated the war from the start...Should never have started the Iraq war..But pulling out too early would be a huge mistake, as Obama and every other politician Knows.. I was in favor of taking Saddam and his regime out, but then we should have gotten out. Actually it should have been the UN to have done it, but the UN is a worthless organization that is too caught up in politics to do much of anything, even in face of unquestionable genocide, they can't even muster enough support to send a dirty letter. I find it ironic that there was any question over whether Saddam had WMD's. We gave him his power and "of course we knew he had WMD's, we have the receipts." The fate of Iraq is in the hands of the Iraqis. The threat to Iraq is not from an outside force, it is from civil war. So what is our business there now? They should of been looking for Bin Laden instead of going to Iraq, IMO. i agree it wouldve been a better job for Cia agents in stead of blowing multiple countries to **** over a few mens actions. |
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Edited by
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The taliban is in Pakistan anyway. the Taliban is now pretty much broken , we destroyed them in the first few months of fighting. the problem now i believe are the Iraqis that see us as invaders of their homeland and are fighting back , in other words they are doing what people here would probably do if we were invaded by a foreign nation. we dont even have solid proof osama had pulled off 911 , he is wanted as a suspect sure but who can say that some one in the govt isnt helping a: hide b:helped him pull it off after all back in the 80's our govt funded Osama bin laden and gave him guns and ammo from what i have learned. |
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The taliban is in Pakistan anyway. the Taliban is now pretty much broken , we destroyed them in the first few months of fighting. the problem now i believe are the Iraqis that see us as invaders of their homeland and are fighting back , in other words they are doing what people here would probably do if we were invaded by a foreign nation. we dont even have solid proof osama had pulled off 911 , he is wanted as a suspect sure but who can say that some one in the govt isnt helping a: hide b:helped him pull it off after all back in the 80's our govt funded Osama bin laden and gave him guns and ammo from what i have learned. please tell me whats happening in pakistan,other than the us govt. making claims they are housing taliban, besides that unless the taliban is attacking us i dont see a reason to fight them ,this is not war with a country this is suppose to be war over what a few men did? if you watch any interviews maybe a year or two into the war all of the generals state that the Taliban has been broken we had sent them into chaos and disorganized them. do you have a response to any of my other statements or are you trying to answer me with a question instead of providing hard evidence of your question / statement. |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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And this is worthy of a post here why??? There are political forums at numerous places ummmm and this is one of them  No, he's got a problem me posting it on mingle, i guess. I'm gonna keep posting it, until I die. Taxpayers in the United States will pay $907.3 billion for total Iraq & Afghanistan war spending (approved & pending) since 2001. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided: 267,406,630 People with Health Care for One Year OR 939,289,301 Homes with Renewable Electricity for One Year OR 19,596,112 Public Safety Officers for One year OR 15,559,271 Music and Arts Teachers for One Year OR 140,275,201 Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR 169,588,785 Students receiving Pell Grants of $5350 OR 7,057,801 Affordable Housing Units OR 399,894,220 Children with Health Care for One Year OR 124,509,400 Head Start Places for Children for One Year OR 14,904,312 Elementary School Teachers for One Year OR 13,108,904 Port Container Inspectors for One year http://www.nationalpriorities.org/tradeoffs?location_type=1&state=888&program=577&submit_tradeoffs=from_costofwar&tradeoff_item_item=999 All that money Bush wasted on his illegal war in Iraq. You know the one he lied us into while he ignored the real war in Afghanistan. We could have ended this war by now, but unfortunately its just now getting the attention it should have from day 9/11. And just think about the money shuffled by excuse of the illegal war directly into the hands and pockets of Cheney and Haliburton! Then there's the 4000 plus American lives lost! Sad! Thank goodness we now have a President who will put our money, military force, and concentration to work on eliminating our real enemy! But then again, There are way too many here who would rather support and make excuses for an ex-president who saw it more important to trample the Constitution in an effort to cover his lies than support anothers effort to battle those who attacked us. |
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The taliban is in Pakistan anyway. the Taliban is now pretty much broken , we destroyed them in the first few months of fighting. the problem now i believe are the Iraqis that see us as invaders of their homeland and are fighting back , in other words they are doing what people here would probably do if we were invaded by a foreign nation. we dont even have solid proof osama had pulled off 911 , he is wanted as a suspect sure but who can say that some one in the govt isnt helping a: hide b:helped him pull it off after all back in the 80's our govt funded Osama bin laden and gave him guns and ammo from what i have learned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anv-cQUCTHU watch that my friend... i thin k you would be surprised to note that our govt. dosent want osama or else we would've had him. |
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And this is worthy of a post here why??? There are political forums at numerous places ummmm and this is one of them No, he's got a problem me posting it on mingle, i guess. I'm gonna keep posting it, until I die. Taxpayers in the United States will pay $907.3 billion for total Iraq & Afghanistan war spending (approved & pending) since 2001. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided: 267,406,630 People with Health Care for One Year OR 939,289,301 Homes with Renewable Electricity for One Year OR 19,596,112 Public Safety Officers for One year OR 15,559,271 Music and Arts Teachers for One Year OR 140,275,201 Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR 169,588,785 Students receiving Pell Grants of $5350 OR 7,057,801 Affordable Housing Units OR 399,894,220 Children with Health Care for One Year OR 124,509,400 Head Start Places for Children for One Year OR 14,904,312 Elementary School Teachers for One Year OR 13,108,904 Port Container Inspectors for One year http://www.nationalpriorities.org/tradeoffs?location_type=1&state=888&program=577&submit_tradeoffs=from_costofwar&tradeoff_item_item=999 All that money Bush wasted on his illegal war in Iraq. You know the one he lied us into while he ignored the real war in Afghanistan. We could have ended this war by now, but unfortunately its just now getting the attention it should have from day 9/11. And just think about the money shuffled by excuse of the illegal war directly into the hands and pockets of Cheney and Haliburton! Then there's the 4000 plus American lives lost! Sad! Thank goodness we now have a President who will put our money, military force, and concentration to work on eliminating our real enemy! But then again, There are way too many here who would rather support and make excuses for an ex-president who saw it more important to trample the Constitution in an effort to cover his lies. it it still goes on to this day, the CFR,Clinton,Biden,Obama,Bush are all the ones to blame for letting it go on. i think biden and hillary are the ones pulling most of start. |
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My nephew spent 18 months in Iraq. He came home last fall.
Now hes fixing to go to Afghanistan. At least if he gets killed in Afghanistan I'll know it was fighting those who attacked us instead of for Bush and Cheney's personal vendetta. It will make the difference between being pissed and angry, and pride with grief! |
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Edited by
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Mon 05/18/09 08:06 AM
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The taliban is in Pakistan anyway. the Taliban is now pretty much broken , we destroyed them in the first few months of fighting. the problem now i believe are the Iraqis that see us as invaders of their homeland and are fighting back , in other words they are doing what people here would probably do if we were invaded by a foreign nation. we dont even have solid proof osama had pulled off 911 , he is wanted as a suspect sure but who can say that some one in the govt isnt helping a: hide b:helped him pull it off after all back in the 80's our govt funded Osama bin laden and gave him guns and ammo from what i have learned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anv-cQUCTHU watch that my friend... i thin k you would be surprised to note that our govt. dosent want osama or else we would've had him. You might ask how Russia did with their war before you claim victory!!! |
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What the govt paid for war and or "peace keeping" could have be spent on your own country and its "now" poor. See why I am against the majority of taxes? Be nifty if people could keep their money and circulate it as they see fit... 
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My nephew spent 18 months in Iraq. He came home last fall. Now hes fixing to go to Afghanistan. At least if he gets killed in Afghanistan I'll know it was fighting those who attacked us instead of for Bush and Cheney's personal vendetta. It will make the difference between being pissed and angry, and pride with grief! I hear what you are saying. But i think i'd still be a bit pissed as we never fought in Afganistan to our capability. If the powers that be wanted an outcome for that war, we would have been done in a matter of months, not decades. Kinda like Vietnam in a way. It's the politicians that don't seem to want us to win. We had the capability, we had the technology, and we have the man-power. Like Vietnam, we win every battle, but seem to be losing the war regardless. Cheers to your nephew's service to this country.
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And this is worthy of a post here why??? There are political forums at numerous places Awwww, someone is just mad cause their candidate lied to them. |
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The taliban is in Pakistan anyway. the Taliban is now pretty much broken , we destroyed them in the first few months of fighting. the problem now i believe are the Iraqis that see us as invaders of their homeland and are fighting back , in other words they are doing what people here would probably do if we were invaded by a foreign nation. we dont even have solid proof osama had pulled off 911 , he is wanted as a suspect sure but who can say that some one in the govt isnt helping a: hide b:helped him pull it off after all back in the 80's our govt funded Osama bin laden and gave him guns and ammo from what i have learned. Not only are we not sure that Osama was responsible, we're pretty sure he WASN'T. The 'smoking gun' video that shows him talking about 9-11 is a proven fake. For goodness sake, in the video he is wearing a golden ring (strictly forbidden by his muslim beliefs). also, computer programs have shown that it's clearly not him by analyzing the distance from this bridge of his nose to his chin (and other elements of his face). The most interesting thing is; Osama Bin Laden HIMSELF claims that he had nothing to do with it. He was super happy about it, and was even more happy that we were going to send troops to fight on their home turf. But he didn't do it. Who did? Idk, but time will likely tell. |
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My nephew spent 18 months in Iraq. He came home last fall. Now hes fixing to go to Afghanistan. At least if he gets killed in Afghanistan I'll know it was fighting those who attacked us instead of for Bush and Cheney's personal vendetta. It will make the difference between being pissed and angry, and pride with grief! I hear what you are saying. But i think i'd still be a bit pissed as we never fought in Afganistan to our capability. If the powers that be wanted an outcome for that war, we would have been done in a matter of months, not decades. Kinda like Vietnam in a way. It's the politicians that don't seem to want us to win. We had the capability, we had the technology, and we have the man-power. Like Vietnam, we win every battle, but seem to be losing the war regardless. Cheers to your nephew's service to this country. 21,000 more on their way. I think this will bring US troop strength in Afghanistan up to 70,000. Pakistan is finally putting pressure on them from their side of the border too. We can win this fight. A little late but winnable still! I wonder where all the Patriotic are now! |
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My nephew spent 18 months in Iraq. He came home last fall. Now hes fixing to go to Afghanistan. At least if he gets killed in Afghanistan I'll know it was fighting those who attacked us instead of for Bush and Cheney's personal vendetta. It will make the difference between being pissed and angry, and pride with grief! I hear what you are saying. But i think i'd still be a bit pissed as we never fought in Afganistan to our capability. If the powers that be wanted an outcome for that war, we would have been done in a matter of months, not decades. Kinda like Vietnam in a way. It's the politicians that don't seem to want us to win. We had the capability, we had the technology, and we have the man-power. Like Vietnam, we win every battle, but seem to be losing the war regardless. Cheers to your nephew's service to this country. Cheers to you sir. For this comment, and your other in regards to taxes. Vietnam is such a great point. Every time we conquered a hill or a valley, we would retreat and let them take it over again. I believe there was one hill specifically the we captured over 50 times. Why do they let the wars go on and on? Listen to former President Dwight Eisenhower in his farewell address to the nation. I'll find ya a link people; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY Hear it in his own words. War is big $$$ for some |
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My nephew spent 18 months in Iraq. He came home last fall. Now hes fixing to go to Afghanistan. At least if he gets killed in Afghanistan I'll know it was fighting those who attacked us instead of for Bush and Cheney's personal vendetta. It will make the difference between being pissed and angry, and pride with grief! I hear what you are saying. But i think i'd still be a bit pissed as we never fought in Afganistan to our capability. If the powers that be wanted an outcome for that war, we would have been done in a matter of months, not decades. Kinda like Vietnam in a way. It's the politicians that don't seem to want us to win. We had the capability, we had the technology, and we have the man-power. Like Vietnam, we win every battle, but seem to be losing the war regardless. Cheers to your nephew's service to this country. 21,000 more on their way. I think this will bring US troop strength in Afghanistan up to 70,000. Pakistan is finally putting pressure on them from their side of the border too. We can win this fight. A little late but winnable still! I wonder where all the Patriotic are now! It's definitely winnable, even now. You have no arguments from me on that one Fanta. Our troops are well trained, and well equiped. If it were up to them the war would have been over YEARS ago. Do i believe that the people pulling the strings want us to win? Of course not. Why would anyone declare a "war on terror" in the first place? It's a war with no end... Hell i'm not even sure what the objective is anymore. I know there are a few families (Rockefellers for instance) making billions upon billions off this war. Hell, our military efforts account for a third of our total budget i believe. Therefore it's making the Federal Reserve rich as hell too. My point, is if they left it all up to the soldiers on the ground, we would never have a war lasting longer than a year. This includes Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afgan, etc. Washington will never lead us to victory... |
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My nephew spent 18 months in Iraq. He came home last fall. Now hes fixing to go to Afghanistan. At least if he gets killed in Afghanistan I'll know it was fighting those who attacked us instead of for Bush and Cheney's personal vendetta. It will make the difference between being pissed and angry, and pride with grief! I hear what you are saying. But i think i'd still be a bit pissed as we never fought in Afganistan to our capability. If the powers that be wanted an outcome for that war, we would have been done in a matter of months, not decades. Kinda like Vietnam in a way. It's the politicians that don't seem to want us to win. We had the capability, we had the technology, and we have the man-power. Like Vietnam, we win every battle, but seem to be losing the war regardless. Cheers to your nephew's service to this country. Cheers to you sir. For this comment, and your other in regards to taxes. Vietnam is such a great point. Every time we conquered a hill or a valley, we would retreat and let them take it over again. I believe there was one hill specifically the we captured over 50 times. Why do they let the wars go on and on? Listen to former President Dwight Eisenhower in his farewell address to the nation. I'll find ya a link people; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY Hear it in his own words. War is big $$$ for some Indeed friend... I have a second cousin, who was a Marine Force Recon. They took a hill (don't remember the number), and were told to retreat for the "peace talks". When the "talks" ended they were to take the hill again. He died in an Ambush during the 4th take-over of the same f%#*ing hill. Even when Washington tries to kill off our troops, they just can't do it. Soldiers keep winning the battles regardless...
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Mon 05/18/09 11:20 AM
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Im hoping it will be different now!
Obama seems to have a good plan. I just wished they would quit bombing targets based on intel from non-Americans. Put more grunts in there (80% of a total 500k) and support them. |
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Taxpayers in the United States will pay $907.3 billion for total Iraq & Afghanistan war spending (approved & pending) since 2001. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided: 267,406,630 People with Health Care for One Year OR 939,289,301 Homes with Renewable Electricity for One Year OR 19,596,112 Public Safety Officers for One year OR 15,559,271 Music and Arts Teachers for One Year OR 140,275,201 Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR 169,588,785 Students receiving Pell Grants of $5350 OR 7,057,801 Affordable Housing Units OR 399,894,220 Children with Health Care for One Year OR 124,509,400 Head Start Places for Children for One Year OR 14,904,312 Elementary School Teachers for One Year OR 13,108,904 Port Container Inspectors for One year How about simply returning the money stolen from taxpayer, back to taxpayer, instead of finding a creative ways to waste it? |
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/ Watch show or you could read the transcripts, but this video will shock you.
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The taliban is in Pakistan anyway. the Taliban is now pretty much broken , we destroyed them in the first few months of fighting. the problem now i believe are the Iraqis that see us as invaders of their homeland and are fighting back , in other words they are doing what people here would probably do if we were invaded by a foreign nation. we dont even have solid proof osama had pulled off 911 , he is wanted as a suspect sure but who can say that some one in the govt isnt helping a: hide b:helped him pull it off after all back in the 80's our govt funded Osama bin laden and gave him guns and ammo from what i have learned. Not only are we not sure that Osama was responsible, we're pretty sure he WASN'T. The 'smoking gun' video that shows him talking about 9-11 is a proven fake. For goodness sake, in the video he is wearing a golden ring (strictly forbidden by his muslim beliefs). also, computer programs have shown that it's clearly not him by analyzing the distance from this bridge of his nose to his chin (and other elements of his face). The most interesting thing is; Osama Bin Laden HIMSELF claims that he had nothing to do with it. He was super happy about it, and was even more happy that we were going to send troops to fight on their home turf. But he didn't do it. Who did? Idk, but time will likely tell. He confessed though. Whether his confession is accurate or just boosting to recieve credit, he confessed! The DA should have known better! |
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