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Topic: Obama backtracks
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Sat 05/16/09 07:29 AM
on security pledges
President’s recent decisions have put him more in line with George W. Bush

NYT analysis: Decisions on detainee photos, tribunals put him more in line with Bush, despite campaign vows. Full story http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30776209//
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Mr. Obama’s opening gambits as president were bold declarations of new directions,.........

In authorizing continued covert action in Pakistan and agreeing to a slower pace of withdrawal from Iraq than he talked about during the campaign...........


“For many on the left who supported him, this is just this side of a betrayal..........

In a testy exchange with reporters, Mr. Obama’s press secretary, Robert Gibbs, argued .........

asked why the president insisted on being “so opposite of George Bush in all these questions,in all these questions, and on Friday I’m answering questionswhy are we so much like George Bush on all these questions.”.......

bottom line is that Mr. Obama’s course corrections have real-life consequences. ..........

“These issues are always more difficult in practice than they are in the environment of a campaign,” .........


doing so has proven to be more difficult than anyone anticipated.”......

Writing the rules for the next four years, or eight, requires lawyers, compromises and, inevitably, disappointments.........

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imagine that

one excuse after another

but don't worry the future will have its disappointments

honesty at its best

:wink: laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 05/16/09 07:35 AM
Hmmm he has not disappointed me yet.. he is living up to what I thought he would.. reason I didn't help put him where he should not be now....

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Sat 05/16/09 07:53 AM
"course corrections" ??? Flip Flops more like it - not only often but also back and forth.

Obama kept Bush's Secretary of Defense Gates. That has always spoke volumes to me......

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Sat 05/16/09 08:03 AM
Flipping on the financial stiuation, also.
Regardless of party, hd hopes for him, questions are rising.

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Sat 05/16/09 08:08 AM
where is all the obama supporters

hhhhhmmmmmmmmm

if memory serves correctly

g w bush had very high approval ratings for a couple years

wonder how long obama will keep his ?????????????


frustrated frustrated frustrated

i said he could be a great prez

but i also said he good be a bad one

or just another one

looks like he is heading for the just another one

will he slide into being a bad one

he has/had enough of congress to do almost anything he wanted and he does more of the same what a shame

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Sat 05/16/09 08:12 AM
seems like the more intelligence he gets, and the more he learns of the geo-political situations the more he falls in line with the old Bush policies hmmmmm...

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Sat 05/16/09 08:12 AM
I didn't vote for him or McCain. The whole system needs revamping in my opinion. And do I have a right to b1tch? I pay taxes, so yes.

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Sat 05/16/09 08:13 AM
How can one be disappointed when one expected this crapola in the first place? He's no better than any other president in being able to carry out his endeavors. It was naive of him to think he could make effects any more than those before him.

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Sat 05/16/09 08:15 AM
I still support Obama, I think he is showing great wisdom in his decisions. I like it that he has the ablilty to change some of his ideas after he has seen the whole picture and NOT just stick with his original plan, it shows he has great adaptibility to the situation at hand

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Sat 05/16/09 08:16 AM

I didn't vote for him or McCain. The whole system needs revamping in my opinion. And do I have a right to b1tch? I pay taxes, so yes.


if you want to revamp the system you should have voted but not for either major political party

until the parties see a negative affect int he polls they have no reason to change

when a third or forth party starts to make a major impact then maybe things will change

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Sat 05/16/09 08:16 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Sat 05/16/09 08:17 AM
I think Obama is turning out to be slightly left of center

and I TOLD ya'll weeks ago that the left was gonna howl that Obama betrayed them when he turned out to be moderate instead of extremist left like they were expecting

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Sat 05/16/09 08:17 AM

I still support Obama, I think he is showing great wisdom in his decisions. I like it that he has the ablilty to change some of his ideas after he has seen the whole picture and NOT just stick with his original plan, it shows he has great adaptibility to the situation at hand


and that maybe bush was correct as well

ggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr



:wink: laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 05/16/09 08:18 AM

I think Obama is turning out to be slightly left of center

and I TOLD ya'll weeks ago that the left was gonna howl that Obama betrayed them when he turned out to be moderate instead of extremist left like they were expecting



yep i think i remember seeing that you typed that

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Sat 05/16/09 09:25 AM
Edited by smiless on Sat 05/16/09 09:26 AM
Let us see

Is there more money in my paycheck? No

Is there more benefits then before? No

Is the national debt still rising? Yes

Are our education and health care system doing better? No

Has anything changed dramatically in this country? No

Do you feel taxes will increase? Yes

Will those taxes be distributed in the right programs? No


So then why are you voting for the two party system only?

Start researching other parties and what they have to say.

Maybe they have something that sounds more promising. Afterall they are more likely interested in the peoples opinion. They are fighting for every vote they can get!




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Sat 05/16/09 09:39 AM
Edited by Mikey117 on Sat 05/16/09 09:40 AM


I still support Obama, I think he is showing great wisdom in his decisions. I like it that he has the ablilty to change some of his ideas after he has seen the whole picture and NOT just stick with his original plan, it shows he has great adaptibility to the situation at hand


and that maybe bush was correct as well

ggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr



:wink: laugh laugh laugh
Bush was MAYBE right twice in his term, Everyone hits a long shot every now and then!!

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Sat 05/16/09 09:41 AM

Let us see

Is there more money in my paycheck? No

Is there more benefits then before? No

Is the national debt still rising? Yes

Are our education and health care system doing better? No

Has anything changed dramatically in this country? No

Do you feel taxes will increase? Yes

Will those taxes be distributed in the right programs? No


So then why are you voting for the two party system only?

Start researching other parties and what they have to say.

Maybe they have something that sounds more promising. Afterall they are more likely interested in the peoples opinion. They are fighting for every vote they can get!




Its is gonna take more than 100 days to undo the mess the Bushies and Chenies got us into!!

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Sat 05/16/09 09:46 AM

How can one be disappointed when one expected this crapola in the first place? He's no better than any other president in being able to carry out his endeavors. It was naive of him to think he could make effects any more than those before him.


Campaign promises are always for the purpose of getting elected. I am sure that he had advisers that knew perfectly well that doing what he "promised" would endanger Americans. He also had advisers to tell him what to promise in order to get elected. It would have been "naive" of him to think he could say what he actually thought and get elected. He had almost no experience.

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Sat 05/16/09 09:59 AM
everyone expects candiates to hedge a little but its not like the lies of WMD's that the previous administration made up to justify war!!

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Sat 05/16/09 10:06 AM
I won't argue about admin's. past or present.
Just proves, to me, that when you know the REAL truth's, there is not many choices for decisions.

Tough decisions, take guts to make.
I personally am glad to see "some" of the changes, "our president" is making.

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Sat 05/16/09 10:57 AM
sorry...but the flip flopping is getting ridiculous IMO. BHO is no better than anyone before him...and he has been in office for how long???

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