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Topic: Encouraging sin? .
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Thu 05/07/09 05:20 PM
Edited by Suhnshine on Thu 05/07/09 05:28 PM

"Therefore to him/her that knoweth to do good,and doeth it not,to him it is sin". James 4:17

What is sin?

"Whoso ever committeth sin also transgresseth the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." 1 John

Transgression is Lawlessness.


We should never encourage someone to do wrong or cheer them on. Especially as believers of the Most High God. We should always candidly and lovingly tell them what God words says pertaining to their personal situation. Even if we know they will be unhappy with God's word.

There is a difference between judging someone and simply telling them their acts are unrighteous. It is our duty as believers to be faithful to God's word.

1John 5:17 " all unrghteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death"

There are some believers who mistakenly get this wrong. They feel if you tell a sister or brother what God says about their sin then you are judging him/her. But that's not what God's word say about this situation.James 4:17 "Therefore to him/her that knoweth to do good,and do it not,to him/her it is sin."

It is our duty as believers to share God's word with someone about their sin, especially if they willingly confesses it to you.flowerforyou


Dragoness's photo
Thu 05/07/09 05:23 PM
Considering there are no sins, just bad choices, there is no need to worry about telling folks about it.

We all make bad choices sometimes.

Totage's photo
Thu 05/07/09 05:43 PM
Sin is simply anything against God.

Dan99's photo
Thu 05/07/09 05:48 PM
God created us, apparantly, so anything we do wrong is all his fault anyway. If he wanted us to be sin free he should have created us properly in the first place.

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Thu 05/07/09 06:07 PM
Edited by Abracadabra on Thu 05/07/09 06:17 PM

We should always candidly and lovingly tell them what God words says pertaining to their personal situation. Even if we know they will be unhappy with God's word.


Who are you talking to when you say "We"?

This isn't the Christian Forums.

This is the General Religion forums.

Many, if not most of the readers and posters here don't even believe that the Bible "God's Word".

I certainly don't. As you well know.

Personally I think you're gravely insulting the creator of this universe by claiming that a bunch of male-chauvinist pigs who used God as an excuse to murder anyone who doesn't agree with their false dogma speak for God.

I don't believe that our creator would lust for, or be appeased by, blood sacrifices.

I don't believe that our creator would ask anyone to judge people and stone sinners to death when clearly that would have been God's job!

It's should be obivous from this that the men who wrote the Bible were not speaking for God, but were instead just trying to get their readers to do their murdering for them!

Why would God need to ask people do this when he could just flick his magick wand and give sinners a heart attack if he wants. Why ask humans to pass judgements on each other as being sinner and stone people to death. Especially after telling them Thou Shalt Not Kill!

Such a God would be a lame fruitcake. Clearly, the book was written by unscrupulous men who knew they wouldn't be there and had to convince their readers to do their mudering for them!

What does it take for people to see that the Bible could not possibly be the WORD of an all-powerful, all-knowing God? huh

Also, why would God need evangelists?

Can't he deal with his own creations directly?

Just more PROOF that the Bible is a lie.

You're in the wrong forum.

The Christian forum is THAT WAY --------------->

They created it just for people like you. bigsmile




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Fri 05/08/09 03:36 PM


We should always candidly and lovingly tell them what God words says pertaining to their personal situation. Even if we know they will be unhappy with God's word.


Who are you talking to when you say "We"?

This isn't the Christian Forums.

This is the General Religion forums.

Many, if not most of the readers and posters here don't even believe that the Bible "God's Word".

I certainly don't. As you well know.

Personally I think you're gravely insulting the creator of this universe by claiming that a bunch of male-chauvinist pigs who used God as an excuse to murder anyone who doesn't agree with their false dogma speak for God.

I don't believe that our creator would lust for, or be appeased by, blood sacrifices.

I don't believe that our creator would ask anyone to judge people and stone sinners to death when clearly that would have been God's job!

It's should be obivous from this that the men who wrote the Bible were not speaking for God, but were instead just trying to get their readers to do their murdering for them!

Why would God need to ask people do this when he could just flick his magick wand and give sinners a heart attack if he wants. Why ask humans to pass judgements on each other as being sinner and stone people to death. Especially after telling them Thou Shalt Not Kill!

Such a God would be a lame fruitcake. Clearly, the book was written by unscrupulous men who knew they wouldn't be there and had to convince their readers to do their mudering for them!

What does it take for people to see that the Bible could not possibly be the WORD of an all-powerful, all-knowing God? huh

Also, why would God need evangelists?

Can't he deal with his own creations directly?

Just more PROOF that the Bible is a lie.

You're in the wrong forum.

The Christian forum is THAT WAY --------------->

They created it just for people like you. bigsmile







you tell 'em brother!

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Fri 05/08/09 03:51 PM

you tell 'em brother!


laugh laugh laugh

I'm a holy terror.

I can't help it. I have like ZERO TOLERANCE for the automatic assumption that the Bible is the "Word of God".

If that's going to be the opening premise, then:

The Christian forums are THAT WAY ------>

Seriously.

Otherwise owl be glad to discuss the merit of this assumption. :wink:


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Fri 05/08/09 03:57 PM


We should always candidly and lovingly tell them what God words says pertaining to their personal situation. Even if we know they will be unhappy with God's word.




Personally I think you're gravely insulting the creator of this universe by claiming that a bunch of male-chauvinist pigs who used God as an excuse to murder anyone who doesn't agree with their false dogma speak for God.



Now, now, I resent the insult to pigs! Pigs are sensitive, sweet, and intelligent critters not out to do any harm, and certainly have very little male/female issues.

:-)

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Fri 05/08/09 04:08 PM
Edited by Abracadabra on Fri 05/08/09 04:08 PM

Now, now, I resent the insult to pigs! Pigs are sensitive, sweet, and intelligent critters not out to do any harm, and certainly have very little male/female issues.

:-)


I do so humbly apologize to the entire animal kingdom and especially the swine.

flowers

I confess that I'm guilty of sometimes getting emotionally carried away a saying things without thinking them through thoroughly.

I will seek repentance for my hasty blind judgements.

In the meantime, in my defense, I would like to point out that I did qualify that I was comparing the authors of the bible only with male chuavinist pigs, and never meant to imply that the entire species of boar fall under this classification. bigsmile

I feel horrible now. :cry:

~~~

Nice kid you got there, by the way. bigsmile


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Fri 05/08/09 04:21 PM


Now, now, I resent the insult to pigs! Pigs are sensitive, sweet, and intelligent critters not out to do any harm, and certainly have very little male/female issues.

:-)


I do so humbly apologize to the entire animal kingdom and especially the swine.

flowers

I confess that I'm guilty of sometimes getting emotionally carried away a saying things without thinking them through thoroughly.

I will seek repentance for my hasty blind judgements.

In the meantime, in my defense, I would like to point out that I did qualify that I was comparing the authors of the bible only with male chuavinist pigs, and never meant to imply that the entire species of boar fall under this classification. bigsmile

I feel horrible now. :cry:

~~~

Nice kid you got there, by the way. bigsmile




:wink: And I enjoy reading your stuff and just about agree with everything you say!

I'm finding that many phrases we use involving animals to describe humans are very far off. It's an insult to the animal species in general.

My favorite kind of kid. LOL! He now thinks he's a cat, and I'm his jungle gym to climb on.

happy

EquusDancer's photo
Fri 05/08/09 04:22 PM
I feel a Sin coming on...

And gonna go light the bonfire tomorrow night!

Bwahahah!

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 05/08/09 04:35 PM

I feel a Sin coming on...

And gonna go light the bonfire tomorrow night!

Bwahahah!


Sin, and a bonfire? scared

Don't be sacrificing that kid now! shocked

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Thu 05/21/09 03:47 AM
Abracadabra, it's probably people like you with such comments that we have been plagued by The Swine Flu. spock

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Thu 05/21/09 09:05 AM

Abracadabra, it's probably people like you with such comments that we have been plagued by The Swine Flu. spock


Well, if the Biblical God has something to do with plauging us with the Swine Flu then you're probably right.

According to the stories in the Bible the Biblical God is well-known for throwing temper tantums and plaguing entire socities of innocent people just becasue he's peeved at one person.

Look what he gave Satan permission do to Job's entire family just because he wanted to test Job to prove to Satan that some people actually love him in spite of how mean and untrustworthy he can be.

So yes, I wouldn't put it past such a God to throw a temper tantrum and inflict innocent people with a Swine Flu just because some people actually believe that he might be NICE.

How horrible it must be for God to know that I actually thought he might be nicer than the authors of the Bible claim. I imagine he's really throwing temper tantrums over that one.

How DARE me to think that God might actually be NICER than the Jews make him out to be in their godforsaken book!

Owl go to hell or that one for sure!

Don't anyone EVER suggest that God might actually be nicer than ancient male-chauvinisitic mythologies!

He'll plague us all to hell. devil

whoa




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Thu 05/21/09 10:52 AM
This web site is encouraging me to fornicate

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 05/21/09 10:59 AM

This web site is encouraging me to fornicate


You're supposed to skip over the ads and just read the threads.

bigsmile

TBRich's photo
Thu 05/21/09 11:01 AM


This web site is encouraging me to fornicate


You're supposed to skip over the ads and just read the threads.

bigsmile


The threads caused my ED

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Thu 05/21/09 12:18 PM
Edited by beautyfrompain on Thu 05/21/09 12:19 PM


"Therefore to him/her that knoweth to do good,and doeth it not,to him it is sin". James 4:17

What is sin?

"Whoso ever committeth sin also transgresseth the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." 1 John

Transgression is Lawlessness.


We should never encourage someone to do wrong or cheer them on. Especially as believers of the Most High God. We should always candidly and lovingly tell them what God words says pertaining to their personal situation. Even if we know they will be unhappy with God's word.

There is a difference between judging someone and simply telling them their acts are unrighteous. It is our duty as believers to be faithful to God's word.

1John 5:17 " all unrghteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death"

There are some believers who mistakenly get this wrong. They feel if you tell a sister or brother what God says about their sin then you are judging him/her. But that's not what God's word say about this situation.James 4:17 "Therefore to him/her that knoweth to do good,and do it not,to him/her it is sin."

It is our duty as believers to share God's word with someone about their sin, especially if they willingly confesses it to you.flowerforyou



Good post SunShine...

Those without the Spirit of God can not comphrehend the Word of God.Those who know Him not the mystery of God is hidden from them. They are spiritually blind and deaf.



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Thu 05/21/09 12:21 PM
Matthew 13

1The same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side.

2And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.

3And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;

4And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:

5Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:

6And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.

7And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:

8But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.

9Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

10And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

17For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

18Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.

19When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

20But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;

21Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

22He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

23But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

31Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:

32Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.

33Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

34All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

35That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

36Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

37He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

44Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.

45Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:

46Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.

47Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:

48Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.

49So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

50And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

51Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord.

52Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.

53And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these parables, he departed thence.

54And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works?

55Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

56And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?

57And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.

58And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.

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Thu 05/21/09 12:49 PM
Hey Beauty, ever have an original thought? Just curious...

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