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Topic: She's a Mormon now!
Lynann's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:46 PM
This is something I have known about since about 1975 when my then future mother in law told me that her mother in law made her a Mormon without her knowledge or consent.

Did you know that can be done and is done folks? What is even more alarming is that the Mormons (not unlike the Monty Python song about the Catholics who want you before you are born) will baptize you after you die.

Part of this, my mother in law joked was about the fact that Mormon's need more women. Both living and dead...you think the Muslim 72 virgins is worthy of contempt? Well, here is this nifty tidbit, "after his death, another 335 women were sealed to him, many of whom he did not know."

Maybe the Mormons are attempting to increase returns in order to lure men if only in the afterlife? (One can only speculate)

So, while you are all pointing fingers and vilifying others...

My ex mother in law is a great woman and one who gave no quarter. She vigorously pursued having her name removed...oh...but not before she was apparently "married" to at least one Mormon man.

If she ends up in his house in the afterlife (assuming what might happen is a mixed bag of all religions) the Mormon man who took her to wife un-consented...well...good luck to him.

So, ladies and gentlemen...you might want to check. You or your forbears might be Mormons...without their or your knowledge or consent. You might want to check it out.

Oh, here's some good new if you want to know. The Mormons keep an extensive genealogy that is available to the general public. Have a peek!

What is funny is this "serious breach stuff" like it is surprising? The practice of baptizing dead people, even those with nearly no affiliation it the Mormons, is common. It has been common since my mother in law looked into it in the mid-70's. But...I am sure there is some deniability there...we all know multiple marriage doesn't happen either. /smirk

It's like that scene from Casablanca, "I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!"

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Mormon Church investigates baptism of Obama's mother

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is investigating the posthumous "baptism" of President Barack Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, as a "serious breach" of religious code, a spokeswoman said.

Church records published by a liberal blog, Americablog, show that Dunham, who died in 1995, was baptised last June 4 in Provo, Utah, and received endowment, another sacrament, a week later.

"The offering of baptism to our deceased ancestors is a sacred practice to us and it is counter to Church policy for a Church member to submit names for baptism for persons to whom they are not related," said spokeswoman Kim Farah in an emailed statement. "The Church is looking into the circumstances of how this happened and does not yet have all the facts. However, this is a serious matter and we are treating it as such."

Mormons believe that souls cannot enter heaven without undergoing baptism and other sacraments, and that those sacraments can be given by proxy after death. The practice of posthumous baptism by proxy has caused controversy in the past, as when Jewish groups raised objections to the baptism of victims of the Holocaust.

According to "doctrinal background" provided by an LDS spokesman, "well-meaning Church members sometimes bypass this instruction and submit the names of non-relatives for temple baptism. Others — perhaps pranksters or careless persons — have submitted the names of unrelated famous or infamous people, or even wholly fictitious names. These rare acts are contrary to Church policy and sometimes cause pain and embarrassment."

Thomas3474's photo
Tue 05/05/09 11:58 PM
Any time you post a topic I know there is at least a 50% chance it will have to do with some sort of Christian or Christian related story insulting or bashing Christians before I even read it.With that said no sense reading your posts anymore.

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 05/06/09 12:06 AM
Mormonsnoway they piss me when they come to my door so I tell them I'm Jehovas witness and that does the trick.laugh it's bad enough I get accosted by christian programming on t.v. but oh no, oh no, they have to come to my house:angry:

Lynann's photo
Wed 05/06/09 01:09 AM
Ah well Thomas3474, since you have taken the liberty of personally addressing me I will return the favor.

I find your reply somewhat interesting. It doesn't address the issue in the original post but given your inconsistency in past in addressing the OP I will let that pass. I to am guilty of going off on a tangent or two.

I have to ask....

Haven't you, when addressing me and others, asked that all Christians not be lumped together? Seems to me you are doing some lumping.

I am sure you are aware, there are issues and conflict between Christians? The Evangelicals in the country and the Mormons have beaten each other up a bit.

But I am not telling you something you don't already know...

(Ask Mitt Romney)

Surely Sir, you are aware that "Christians" are quite divided regrading the Mormon faith with some mainstream Christians calling Mormonism a cult?

So, close ranks to vilify me because you perceive me as anti-Christian. It only confirms my view that many embrace religion for reasons that have nothing to do with God.

I will confess I will be hurt if you no longer read or reply to my posts. Your input is always interesting to me and I value your presence.

Winx's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:24 AM

Any time you post a topic I know there is at least a 50% chance it will have to do with some sort of Christian or Christian related story insulting or bashing Christians before I even read it.With that said no sense reading your posts anymore.


She wasn't bashing Christians.

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Wed 05/06/09 07:25 AM


Any time you post a topic I know there is at least a 50% chance it will have to do with some sort of Christian or Christian related story insulting or bashing Christians before I even read it.With that said no sense reading your posts anymore.


She wasn't bashing Christians.


just Mormons

Winx's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:27 AM
Edited by Winx on Wed 05/06/09 07:29 AM



Any time you post a topic I know there is at least a 50% chance it will have to do with some sort of Christian or Christian related story insulting or bashing Christians before I even read it.With that said no sense reading your posts anymore.


She wasn't bashing Christians.


just Mormons


I thought it was more on the side of informing us about the Mormons and how somebody baptized Obama's dead mother, which is odd. I didn't see it as bashing.





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Wed 05/06/09 07:28 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Wed 05/06/09 07:29 AM
oh don't get me wrong, bashing Mormons is fun

they are kind weird

Winx's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:32 AM

oh dn't get me wrong, bashing Mormons is fun

they are kind weird


I've known some Mormons. I've had dinner at their homes. One family had a dining room with pictures on the walls of all their "saints". It was strange to be eating and looking at pics of men wearing suits. I've got some stories. lol

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:33 AM
could someone show where she bashed anyone

since when is reporting issues considered bashing

what because of the line (in the afterleife) it is bashing

noway noway


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Wed 05/06/09 07:37 AM
if you take a Mormon fishing be sure to take two to watch each other

Otherwise they'll drink all your beer

Winx's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:37 AM
Can you imagine - when you die and are a Christian, somebody can make you a Mormon when you are dead?

Winx's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:39 AM

if you take a Mormon fishing be sure to take two to watch each other

Otherwise they'll drink all your beer


Really? The Mormons that I have known are very anti-drinking. They don't even use novacaine when at the dentist.

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Wed 05/06/09 07:40 AM


if you take a Mormon fishing be sure to take two to watch each other

Otherwise they'll drink all your beer


Really? The Mormons that I have known are very anti-drinking. They don't even use novacaine when at the dentist.


that was the point. they are. until they are by themselves and no one is looking. Thats why you have to take two. so they can watch each other

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:41 AM

Can you imagine - when you die and are a Christian, somebody can make you a Mormon when you are dead?


only if you concede the point by saying they can before you die

otherwise do you think that god would automatically change you by the actions of another

what kind of god would that be and how secure should your belief be in such a god


Winx's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:43 AM


Can you imagine - when you die and are a Christian, somebody can make you a Mormon when you are dead?


only if you concede the point by saying they can before you die

otherwise do you think that god would automatically change you by the actions of another

what kind of god would that be and how secure should your belief be in such a god




Hmm...I thought that they didn't need one's permission.

Personally, I don't think God would pay attention to what religion somebody changed you to when you are dead.

Winx's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:43 AM



if you take a Mormon fishing be sure to take two to watch each other

Otherwise they'll drink all your beer


Really? The Mormons that I have known are very anti-drinking. They don't even use novacaine when at the dentist.


that was the point. they are. until they are by themselves and no one is looking. Thats why you have to take two. so they can watch each other


Got it.laugh

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Wed 05/06/09 07:52 AM
A Mormon Bishop got on an elevator on the 10th floor, (he was heading to the lobby) on the 8th floor a beautiful woman walked in. (they were alone) On the way to the lobby the gorgeous woman hit the stop button. She turned to the Bishop and said:

"Can you make me feel like a true woman?"

The Bishop said: "I sure can" and excitedly took off all his clothes, he then threw them in the corner of the elevator. He turned to the woman pointed to the clothes and said:

"Now fold them".

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Wed 05/06/09 07:56 AM
A man died and was spirited to Heaven, where he met St. Peter at the gate.

"Welcome to Heaven. I'll be showing you around." They walked a short way and came upon a group of people singing, shouting and raising their arms in the air..."This is where the pentacostal followers worship."

They walked a little further and saw some people taking holy communion "Over here are the Catholics".

They walked by several more groups of followers openly worshiping in their own ways. Then Peter said "shhh, be very quiet now" as they walked past a long, tall brick wall. On the other side they could hear shouting and singing - what sounded like a big party going on.

The man asked who was behind the wall. Peter said "Oh, those are the Mormons...they think they're the only ones here!"

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:31 AM



Can you imagine - when you die and are a Christian, somebody can make you a Mormon when you are dead?


only if you concede the point by saying they can before you die

otherwise do you think that god would automatically change you by the actions of another

what kind of god would that be and how secure should your belief be in such a god




Hmm...I thought that they didn't need one's permission.

Personally, I don't think God would pay attention to what religion somebody changed you to when you are dead.



"""Hmm...I thought that they didn't need one's permission."""

maybe they don't but for it to be effect ive i would think the person that is dead would have give credence to there ability to do so before hand by saying something like

-----when you die and are a Christian, somebody can make you a Mormon when you are dead-----

***note no question mark***

imo


""""Personally, I don't think God would pay attention to what religion somebody changed you to when you are dead.""""

that was my point and if god did do so why bother believing

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