Topic: When will the US become Third- Worldly?
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Sat 05/02/09 09:55 PM
Ecclesiastes 1:9



New American Standard Bible

That which has been is that which will be, And that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun.

GOD'S WORD® Translation

Whatever has happened before will happen [again]. Whatever has been done before will be done [again]. There is nothing new under the sun.

King James Bible

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

American King James Version

The thing that has been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

American Standard Version

That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Bible in Basic English

That which has been, is that which is to be, and that which has been done, is that which will be done, and there is no new thing under the sun.

Douay-Rheims Bible

What is it that hath been? the same thing that shall be. What is it that hath been done? the same that shall be done.

Darby Bible Translation

That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which will be done: and there is nothing new under the sun.

English Revised Version

That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Webster's Bible Translation

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

World English Bible

That which has been is that which shall be; and that which has been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Young's Literal Translation

What is that which hath been? it is that which is, and what is that which hath been done? it is that which is done, and there is not an entirely new thing under the sun.




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Sat 05/02/09 09:55 PM



bigsmile All of this has happened before and all of this will happen againbigsmile


The ancient Romans would agree completely.
flowerforyou So would the Egyptian and the Mayans.flowerforyou It is the cycle of time of which you speak.bigsmile


Cycle of times like that usually ends up with many many deaths. I prefer not to be counted among those. Humans will survive this cycle I'm fairly certain of that. civilization I'm not so positive on :wink:

catwoman96's photo
Sat 05/02/09 09:55 PM
nooooooo

to EAT!

hamburger, Tbone steaks, ribeye

not to mention the all important milk.
and cheese.

gots to love them jersey cowsbigsmile

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Sat 05/02/09 09:56 PM





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:laughing: Yeah:laughing:


This is what scares me. With people in complete denial of the possiblity how can we hope to over come the obsticles.

Civilizations with more power than ours have collapsed. We are not immune or invulnerable.


I don't think anyone is in complete denial, but I would prefer people focus on what is and what can be done even in small ways, rather than people spewing all sorts of things they can't prove or that really do nothing to help solve anything.

We can't always control the government but we damn well can control our immdiate surroundings, what we say, what we do about any giving circumstance. I live in a small town hit with a lot of factory closings, and it's amazing to see how people deal with that here. And they do deal with it much better than I see in the news or on Mingle it seems.


I am a firm believer that it is smaller towns and smaller businesses that will survive the best. I've just always wanted to do better than just survive. That possiblity may be taken from us by a government that is out of control.


Well I can only speak for this small town where people have been through harder times than many of us have ever experienced and they survived, but they also did not spend beyond their means, so even now they are happy and not paniced. Yes they feel the anxiety in the air because so many are contributing to that anxiety rightly or wrongly.

If you have even been through really hard times, then surviving isn't all that bad, just depends I guess on the person and what matters to them.

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Sat 05/02/09 10:00 PM




bigsmile All of this has happened before and all of this will happen againbigsmile


The ancient Romans would agree completely.
flowerforyou So would the Egyptian and the Mayans.flowerforyou It is the cycle of time of which you speak.bigsmile


Cycle of times like that usually ends up with many many deaths. I prefer not to be counted among those. Humans will survive this cycle I'm fairly certain of that. civilization I'm not so positive on :wink:


I think it'll all work out in the end.flowerforyou

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Sat 05/02/09 10:01 PM





bigsmile All of this has happened before and all of this will happen againbigsmile


The ancient Romans would agree completely.
flowerforyou So would the Egyptian and the Mayans.flowerforyou It is the cycle of time of which you speak.bigsmile


Cycle of times like that usually ends up with many many deaths. I prefer not to be counted among those. Humans will survive this cycle I'm fairly certain of that. civilization I'm not so positive on :wink:


I think it'll all work out in the end.flowerforyou


I still have hope and I am working toward that end. But my hope is dwindling as I see the possibilities squandered away.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 10:02 PM
:smile: I don't see anything any different than its ever been.:smile:There is nothing new under the sun.flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Sat 05/02/09 10:03 PM






bigsmile All of this has happened before and all of this will happen againbigsmile


The ancient Romans would agree completely.
flowerforyou So would the Egyptian and the Mayans.flowerforyou It is the cycle of time of which you speak.bigsmile


Cycle of times like that usually ends up with many many deaths. I prefer not to be counted among those. Humans will survive this cycle I'm fairly certain of that. civilization I'm not so positive on :wink:


I think it'll all work out in the end.flowerforyou


I still have hope and I am working toward that end. But my hope is dwindling as I see the possibilities squandered away.


I see possibilities showing up in other areas. One door closes and another opens.

I learned a lot about the Depression from my Grandmother. We're not even close to that.

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Sat 05/02/09 10:03 PM








I'm not that pessimistic. I don't see that at all.


I wish I could feel that way Boo. I do not think it's too late for us to get back on track but the time is rapidly approaching. I'm not one to subscribe to ancient predictions and such but I just can't help hoping all the predictions for 2012 aren't actually there and pointing to the colapse of the world economy. The possible timing isn't that far off.


Hi Davey

I guess I am just an optimistic person, but I really do not feel dooms day is coming. And I am pretty sensitive to things coming around, and feel it, but I just don't feel it. What predictions are you referring to out of curiosity?


There are numerous predictions from ancient sources, the maya's are a big one their date is pretty absolute and predicts a total change in the worlds makeup. But there are many other predictions from other cultures that point to the year 2012 as being very significant. I don't really believe in such stuff but it's hard to help thinking about it.


Well I do agree it's hard not to think about it, especially when people in this situation become paniced and or just plain fearful. I worry that people collectively make things worse by acting out when they don't really know what is going on.


I am fearful but I still try to take positive actions and work as though everything was going to work out. If it does I want to be on top :wink: if it doesn't want to be on top too though laugh


Well you started out great than lost it in the second part.. grin! Keep the first and ditch the second thought.. lol

Act as IF.. that does work.


Actually for me in my current situation I can do pretty much the same thing and if successful end up on top... I'm such a guy laugh


Hey is all about attitude and you seem to have a pretty good attitude personally.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 10:05 PM
flowerforyou There is nothing new under the sunflowerforyou

catwoman96's photo
Sat 05/02/09 10:07 PM
now the sun...thats another story.

psht would go down if something happened to it

catwoman96's photo
Sat 05/02/09 10:07 PM
which i think thats what the mayans believed

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 10:12 PM

now the sun...thats another story.

psht would go down if something happened to it
flowerforyou Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.flowerforyou

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 10:13 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 05/02/09 10:14 PM

which i think thats what the mayans believed
huh Whut?laugh The Mayans didnt write the bibleslaphead

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

ThomasJB's photo
Sat 05/02/09 10:14 PM
The Mayans didn't predict the end of the world and the whole 2012 thing is a misinterpretation of the Mayan calendar.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 10:15 PM

The Mayans didn't predict the end of the world and the whole 2012 thing is a misinterpretation of the Mayan calendar.
bigsmile Thats right.happy They believed in the Long Count.bigsmile The cycle of time.drinker I was waiting for someone to point that outbigsmile

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Sat 05/02/09 10:16 PM

which i think thats what the mayans believed


Actually there is a plantetary alignment that takes place only once every... 3000? years that will happen in 2012. That's why the date is so specific and known. It is the date the mayan calendar ends. Mayans believed we were ruled by the stars so it's unclear if they believed the planetary alignment would bring physical change or change within humanity.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 10:18 PM


which i think thats what the mayans believed


Actually there is a plantetary alignment that takes place only once every... 3000? years that will happen in 2012. That's why the date is so specific and known. It is the date the mayan calendar ends. Mayans believed we were ruled by the stars so it's unclear if they believed the planetary alignment would bring physical change or change within humanity.
flowerforyou The begining of a new cycle.flowerforyouNot some "End Of The World".flowerforyou

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Sat 05/02/09 10:18 PM
wow...this thread got off track

DaveyB's photo
Sat 05/02/09 10:19 PM

wow...this thread got off track


Not entirely. If the world economy collapses it will be a major thing. Willing asked for predictions. I gave him mine... and the mayans bigsmile