Topic: When will the US become Third- Worldly?
yellowrose10's photo
Sat 05/02/09 09:21 PM



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This is what scares me. With people in complete denial of the possiblity how can we hope to over come the obsticles.

Civilizations with more power than ours have collapsed. We are not immune or invulnerable.


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MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 09:24 PM
bigsmile We have free will.bigsmileThe future is what we make it.bigsmileHope springs eternalflowerforyou

DaveyB's photo
Sat 05/02/09 09:27 PM





I'm not that pessimistic. I don't see that at all.


I wish I could feel that way Boo. I do not think it's too late for us to get back on track but the time is rapidly approaching. I'm not one to subscribe to ancient predictions and such but I just can't help hoping all the predictions for 2012 aren't actually there and pointing to the colapse of the world economy. The possible timing isn't that far off.


Hi Davey

I guess I am just an optimistic person, but I really do not feel dooms day is coming. And I am pretty sensitive to things coming around, and feel it, but I just don't feel it. What predictions are you referring to out of curiosity?


There are numerous predictions from ancient sources, the maya's are a big one their date is pretty absolute and predicts a total change in the worlds makeup. But there are many other predictions from other cultures that point to the year 2012 as being very significant. I don't really believe in such stuff but it's hard to help thinking about it.


Well I do agree it's hard not to think about it, especially when people in this situation become paniced and or just plain fearful. I worry that people collectively make things worse by acting out when they don't really know what is going on.


I am fearful but I still try to take positive actions and work as though everything was going to work out. If it does I want to be on top :wink: if it doesn't want to be on top too though laugh

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Sat 05/02/09 09:27 PM



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This is what scares me. With people in complete denial of the possiblity how can we hope to over come the obsticles.

Civilizations with more power than ours have collapsed. We are not immune or invulnerable.


I don't think anyone is in complete denial, but I would prefer people focus on what is and what can be done even in small ways, rather than people spewing all sorts of things they can't prove or that really do nothing to help solve anything.

We can't always control the government but we damn well can control our immdiate surroundings, what we say, what we do about any giving circumstance. I live in a small town hit with a lot of factory closings, and it's amazing to see how people deal with that here. And they do deal with it much better than I see in the news or on Mingle it seems.

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Sat 05/02/09 09:29 PM

bigsmile We have free will.bigsmileThe future is what we make it.bigsmileHope springs eternalflowerforyou


Agreed however what happens if we do nothing or change nothing. That is what's happening. If things change we have all the hope in the world.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 09:31 PM
:smile: Is it the United States,Western civilization,or the entire world thats supposed to be coming to this "END"?:smile:

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 09:32 PM


bigsmile We have free will.bigsmileThe future is what we make it.bigsmileHope springs eternalflowerforyou


Agreed however what happens if we do nothing or change nothing. That is what's happening. If things change we have all the hope in the world.
flowerforyou I have decided to make a personal change and have hope for the future of mankind.flowerforyou

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Sat 05/02/09 09:32 PM

:smile: Is it the United States,Western civilization,or the entire world thats supposed to be coming to this "END"?:smile:


Well actually according to the mayans it's a Beginning rather than an ending but it suggests it will be a violent change. And it's the entire world not just western civilization.

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Sat 05/02/09 09:34 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 05/02/09 09:40 PM



flowerforyou The cycle of timebigsmile All of this has happened before and all of this will happen againbigsmile

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Sat 05/02/09 09:36 PM




laugh laugh laugh laugh good jokelaugh laugh laugh laugh
:laughing: Yeah:laughing:


This is what scares me. With people in complete denial of the possiblity how can we hope to over come the obsticles.

Civilizations with more power than ours have collapsed. We are not immune or invulnerable.


I don't think anyone is in complete denial, but I would prefer people focus on what is and what can be done even in small ways, rather than people spewing all sorts of things they can't prove or that really do nothing to help solve anything.

We can't always control the government but we damn well can control our immdiate surroundings, what we say, what we do about any giving circumstance. I live in a small town hit with a lot of factory closings, and it's amazing to see how people deal with that here. And they do deal with it much better than I see in the news or on Mingle it seems.


I am a firm believer that it is smaller towns and smaller businesses that will survive the best. I've just always wanted to do better than just survive. That possiblity may be taken from us by a government that is out of control.

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Sat 05/02/09 09:40 PM

bigsmile All of this has happened before and all of this will happen againbigsmile


The ancient Romans would agree completely.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 09:41 PM


bigsmile All of this has happened before and all of this will happen againbigsmile


The ancient Romans would agree completely.
flowerforyou So would the Egyptian and the Mayans.flowerforyou It is the cycle of time of which you speak.bigsmile

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Sat 05/02/09 09:41 PM


bigsmile We have free will.bigsmileThe future is what we make it.bigsmileHope springs eternalflowerforyou


Agreed however what happens if we do nothing or change nothing. That is what's happening. If things change we have all the hope in the world.


Personally I think we are going through some normal and spiritual growing pains. As for the economy we are learning as individuals that there are limits. I don't see that as a bad thing. In fact we should have been teaching the last generation about limits and spending habits. Some times we learn the hard way and we are learning the hard way, but it still is what we make it, no?

I refuse to be pessimistic, at least for myself, I accomplish nothing when I am in that state of mind. Kinda like when my house is cluttered, my mind is cluttered. If I want to change I make it happen and if I can't seem to I will get information to help me with it, I keep going, keep moving in a positive direction. I don't want to be part of the problem, see where I am going? Of am I not making any sense.. Could be, I'm tired.. LOL

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Sat 05/02/09 09:43 PM
shades What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: "This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more" ....... Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus?shadesOr have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: "You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine"--Nietzscheshades

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Sat 05/02/09 09:44 PM






I'm not that pessimistic. I don't see that at all.


I wish I could feel that way Boo. I do not think it's too late for us to get back on track but the time is rapidly approaching. I'm not one to subscribe to ancient predictions and such but I just can't help hoping all the predictions for 2012 aren't actually there and pointing to the colapse of the world economy. The possible timing isn't that far off.


Hi Davey

I guess I am just an optimistic person, but I really do not feel dooms day is coming. And I am pretty sensitive to things coming around, and feel it, but I just don't feel it. What predictions are you referring to out of curiosity?


There are numerous predictions from ancient sources, the maya's are a big one their date is pretty absolute and predicts a total change in the worlds makeup. But there are many other predictions from other cultures that point to the year 2012 as being very significant. I don't really believe in such stuff but it's hard to help thinking about it.


Well I do agree it's hard not to think about it, especially when people in this situation become paniced and or just plain fearful. I worry that people collectively make things worse by acting out when they don't really know what is going on.


I am fearful but I still try to take positive actions and work as though everything was going to work out. If it does I want to be on top :wink: if it doesn't want to be on top too though laugh


Well you started out great than lost it in the second part.. grin! Keep the first and ditch the second thought.. lol

Act as IF.. that does work.

catwoman96's photo
Sat 05/02/09 09:46 PM
ima guess.

as long as other countries are still buying our goods...then we will never be a third world country.

all of the worlds finances are together nowadys.glasses
we rely upon eachother.
to keep our dollar afloat.


i mean who in the states wants to eat corn from Indiana?

as long as people are consuming some american goods its all good.

maybe.
perhaps
lol

that being said, ima have some sweet corn soon

DaveyB's photo
Sat 05/02/09 09:48 PM







I'm not that pessimistic. I don't see that at all.


I wish I could feel that way Boo. I do not think it's too late for us to get back on track but the time is rapidly approaching. I'm not one to subscribe to ancient predictions and such but I just can't help hoping all the predictions for 2012 aren't actually there and pointing to the colapse of the world economy. The possible timing isn't that far off.


Hi Davey

I guess I am just an optimistic person, but I really do not feel dooms day is coming. And I am pretty sensitive to things coming around, and feel it, but I just don't feel it. What predictions are you referring to out of curiosity?


There are numerous predictions from ancient sources, the maya's are a big one their date is pretty absolute and predicts a total change in the worlds makeup. But there are many other predictions from other cultures that point to the year 2012 as being very significant. I don't really believe in such stuff but it's hard to help thinking about it.


Well I do agree it's hard not to think about it, especially when people in this situation become paniced and or just plain fearful. I worry that people collectively make things worse by acting out when they don't really know what is going on.


I am fearful but I still try to take positive actions and work as though everything was going to work out. If it does I want to be on top :wink: if it doesn't want to be on top too though laugh


Well you started out great than lost it in the second part.. grin! Keep the first and ditch the second thought.. lol

Act as IF.. that does work.


Actually for me in my current situation I can do pretty much the same thing and if successful end up on top... I'm such a guy laugh

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Sat 05/02/09 09:49 PM


bigsmile We have free will.bigsmileThe future is what we make it.bigsmileHope springs eternalflowerforyou


Agreed however what happens if we do nothing or change nothing. That is what's happening. If things change we have all the hope in the world.


Individuals have to change and that change can be catching. One person started a garden in my niegbhorhood, and now even those that weren't going to, are doing the same.

catwoman96's photo
Sat 05/02/09 09:51 PM
Do they have room for gardens in china??

and im talking about big ones.

what about cows??


DaveyB's photo
Sat 05/02/09 09:54 PM

Do they have room for gardens in china??

and im talking about big ones.

what about cows??



Cows don't generally plant gardens... but they can be good at helping them grow laugh