Topic: Update:She Lost
Lynann's photo
Sat 05/02/09 12:24 AM
And here is why...she is a friggin' train wreck. I bet some of those pro-family folks are rethinking their oh poor moral Christian girl sympathies.

haha

She is stupid!

Oh...you and I know she has been groomed and coached and this is the best she can do?

So...pi$$ on your moral outrage...here she is in all her pro-family glory!

HA HA...it's a win...

Last night, Miss California, Carrie Prejean, called into Greta Van Susteren's show on Fox and proved that she may not be the best spokesperson against gay marriage, as she knows almost nothing about the issue.

In the clip at left, Prejean stumbles through an interview with Van Susteren, who seems to have made it her mission to profile (and defend) controversial right-wing female beauty queens. Earlier in the day, Prejean gave a press conference on behalf of the National Organization for Marriage and unveiled her new ad for NOW, which will be airing in several states. Currently, the only way to watch online is to head to the organization's website, as gossip blogger Perez Hilton has forced the ad to be removed from YouTube.

Prejean said she was calling in to promote traditional marriage, but when Van Susteren asked her about civil unions she said, as transcribed by U.S. News and World Report:

You know what, Greta? I don't have the answers to everything. I'm not running for political office. I don't have the answers to everything, you know, in the world out there.

But I think that there should be rights for people, you know, especially in California. I think that people that are homosexual should have some rights, you know, hospital rights, and things like that.

Rights for hospitals and things like that - generous! Then, when Van Susteren proceeded to ask Prejean about gay adoption, the beauty queen seemed to think the anchor was trying trick her and scolded:

Greta, I am focusing on marriage right now, not adoption, not civil unions, just traditional marriage, and I'm going to do whatever it takes to promote that.

At the press conference earlier in the day (clip below, via Pandagon) Prejean didn't fare much better. She explained that she is passionate about her cause because "marriage is good" and "unless we bring men and women together children will not have mothers and fathers." Then, during the question and answer segment of her press conference, following a reporter's question as to whether Prejean will be going into politics she laughed and said, "I think that is a silly question." AT this point, we're just relieved that Prejean finds the idea of her starting a political career is as silly as we do.

Video at:http://jezebel.com/5236008/miss-california-opens-mouth-exhales-inanity


AndrewAV's photo
Sat 05/02/09 12:36 AM
i personally felt she had a less than stellar intelligence level as she answered the question at the pageant. I can respect someone standing up for their beliefs, but at least educate yourself. Truthfully, you cannot stand up against something on your own beliefs unless you at least moderately understand what it is you are standing up against.

JasmineInglewood's photo
Sat 05/02/09 12:37 AM
maybe i'm missing something here...

i haven't been following this story much... but from what little i've heard, it hasn't been one of the finest moments in american media when someone is vilified and punished for holding an opinion, even if it is an unpopular opinion, when asked for it.

all she is doing is voicing an opinion and holding a stance. even if we disagree with it, even if she is ill-informed, it is still her right to have an opinion that differs from the majority.


Lynann's photo
Sat 05/02/09 12:53 AM
Here is a sporting metaphor...she was handed the ball in the forth quarter and fumbled.

She didn't lose because of her opinion she lost because she was poorly prepared.

There wasn't a "right" (pc answer) to this as much as thre was a right way to answer this question.

For those who decry pc'ness I would suggest that your mother and grandmother might have a passing acquaintance with being polite, diplomatic and inclusive.

She could have expressed her personal values and praised the country she is representing easily.

"While I believe, for myself, that marriage should be defined as a union of a man and a woman I am proud to live in a country where all points of view are recognized"

Easy right?

Oh and before you say I had time to think about it and she didn't...well that is wrong. The contestants knew what sort of questions they would be asked along with the identities and the reputations of those asking the questions. Additionally the questions were selected at random.

But...fear not...someone will scoop up the poor confused conservative girl who has breasts bought by the CA pageant committee. I look forward to future gaffs by the latest poster girl for family values.

AndrewAV's photo
Sat 05/02/09 01:43 AM

Here is a sporting metaphor...she was handed the ball in the forth quarter and fumbled.

She didn't lose because of her opinion she lost because she was poorly prepared.

There wasn't a "right" (pc answer) to this as much as thre was a right way to answer this question.

For those who decry pc'ness I would suggest that your mother and grandmother might have a passing acquaintance with being polite, diplomatic and inclusive.

She could have expressed her personal values and praised the country she is representing easily.

"While I believe, for myself, that marriage should be defined as a union of a man and a woman I am proud to live in a country where all points of view are recognized"

Easy right?

Oh and before you say I had time to think about it and she didn't...well that is wrong. The contestants knew what sort of questions they would be asked along with the identities and the reputations of those asking the questions. Additionally the questions were selected at random.

But...fear not...someone will scoop up the poor confused conservative girl who has breasts bought by the CA pageant committee. I look forward to future gaffs by the latest poster girl for family values.


the strange part about this is the fact her handlers knew there was an openly (flamboyantly open) gay judge in the pageant. They had to know that this question was a very great possibility...

Lynann's photo
Sat 05/02/09 03:06 AM
Can you say exploitation?

Funny too...'cause the "moral outrage" was predictable.

So, how about rethinking this conversation?

Maybe she wasn't a poor sweet moral girl captured in a "gotcha" moment (which we all know wasn't true) by a radical gay man and victimized by political correctness?

Perhaps instead she was set up to flounder but those who had their own political agenda?

You know...the far right? Those that still think beauty contest are great. (okay, so I still like looking at attractive men and women but I am not going to look to the body for political, intellectual or moral guidance.) Oh...a fair number of gay guys love pageants or so I have been recently told.

You know...those purveyors of the "American Way"...you know...Bibles and all! (Beware...please read scripture before signing on and compare it with the word of man)

Funny too that some of the same posters here who were indignant about her defeat were all about the mom who thought her child wearing a shirt untucked was indecent.

At any rate...back to the question.

What if her backers and handlers knowing she might be asked this sort of question (possible questions were submitted in advance so they weren't surprising) and either failed to ready her of badly preached a philosophy she did not fully understand?

Me? I don't buy either of the extremes.


Kevrides's photo
Sun 05/03/09 08:31 AM
She has been hounded by the liberal media(not to mention cheated out of her beauty pageant win) simply because she shares the opinion of the MAJORITY of voters in California. Odd.

Lynann's photo
Sun 05/03/09 08:58 AM
Looks like the poor dear is going to lose her Miss CA crown. Seems she has not honored her obligations to the CA pageant and has failed to make appearance that come with the crown and chosen instead to make appearances as a pro marriage representative. But fear not, when she looses the crown she will be able to add that to her "poor me victimized by the liberal media" resume.

Kevrides's photo
Sun 05/03/09 09:23 AM
I honestly couldn't care any less about her career choices,pageant obligations or which show she decides to go on much less what cause she has decided to champion. My point is that her opinion is the same as the MAJORITY of voters in CA and for stating her beliefs she has been vilified
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If the exact opposite had occurred with the contestant speaking in favor of gay marriage when asked by an openly conservative panel member (say Sean Hannity)do you think she would have been painted in such a poor light by the media?

no photo
Sun 05/03/09 09:39 AM

maybe i'm missing something here...

i haven't been following this story much... but from what little i've heard, it hasn't been one of the finest moments in american media when someone is vilified and punished for holding an opinion, even if it is an unpopular opinion, when asked for it.

all she is doing is voicing an opinion and holding a stance. even if we disagree with it, even if she is ill-informed, it is still her right to have an opinion that differs from the majority.




and THAT is the biggest problem I see with this country. The villification of anyone that doesnt believe exactly as you do. She shares the opinion of about half of this country. But the ones that dont share that opinion have to attack her as a person

and it goes back and forth with more and more viciouosness. so that there will never be a middle ground