Topic: Bisexual Christian
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Wed 05/06/09 04:41 PM



People claiming to be Christian and then acting like they are anything but one hurts the reputation of the good Christians who follow what the bible teaches.Is there any point in being a Christian if you are going to be living a life that goes against Gods word and the bible?The gay lifestyle does not fit into anything at all in the bible or the Christian religion.The bible was so clearly againt it that it was one of the fews acts that called it a obamination.Any Christians that are supporting the Christian gay movement are clearly rebelling against God and his word.

I know I am going to get a lot of flack over this post.All Christian sin but any Christian that loves God and his word will try his best to live his life as close as possible to the bible and Gods word.That does not include making a lifelong commitment to rebel against Gods word which is exactly what happends in gay marriage.


I seem to recall that some those same bible verses that are interpreted as calling homosexuality an abomination also call for killing them. Do you choose to follow those verse as well or do you just pick and choose?
Jesus said to obey mans law so I would say murder is not a option. Your talking old testament after the death of Christ we go by the new testament we are not Jews we are Christians.


2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." I guess this would be another example of how christains pick and choose which parts of a supposedly deity inspired work are important. If the whole thing is inspired by god why is only half of it usable?

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Wed 05/06/09 04:43 PM

I would like to say that I came to my conclusion and acceptance of myself being Bi just before I found God. I believe that God had a specific reason for calling me to him at that time. Now I'm sure there will be people on here who will say that he was trying to save my soul, well yeah he did. But I don't believe it was to renounce my sexuality. I believe it's because I finally accepted a part of myself that my heart was finally open to receive him.

For those who think that I'm not a Christian b/c of my sexuality, I’d like to say that the true walk as a Christian is never an easy path. We all have our independent obstacles that test our faith in the lord. The bible gives us plenty of examples that God asks some people to do things that are larger than ourselves, and sometimes almost unimaginable of doing. But they did them b/c of their faith. I know that a large majority think I'm hypocritical for being bisexual and claiming to be a Christian, but b/c of my faith, my heart cannot and will not deny that Jesus is my savior and that God is my creator. Though you may try to tell me to change, I already have, and I did chose the Lord. Every time I hear that I will go to hell b/c of my sexuality, the lord shields my heart from such evil, and it's not an easy decision to be barraged by opposition, but that decision wasn't mine, the will of God is above my own, and I choose to give myself to his will to the best of my ability. The easy way out would be to not continue my walk with the lord, and deny what he made me. But I am meant to face this opposition, which I believe will always be a never ending test of my devotion to the lord. If I was not truly a Christian, then why would I continue to face these afflictions? God put into us what he knew he could use of us, but it is Satan that manipulates what is actually good in us, to be used in sin. We may not realize that we are sinning though b/c it’s used through something that God put in us. So I’m bisexual b/c God made me that way. If that’s wrong then are you saying that god is wrong?

For those who say that if you were in my position, you wouldn't chose to be Christian b/c of the religious community, I am sorry b/c it has taken onto itself what I believe to be a false position of power to make judge-mental truths of God, which has turned you away, instead of bringing you to the Lords embrace. The lord rejoices more for one soul that is saved, for we all have one soul, so each of us is greatly desired by the lord. I also have no intention of looking for another religion that is more accepting, b/c I can’t chose a faith more appealing. Because then I’d be choosing to have a religion to fit my lifestyle, but I believe that this is the only God, no other exists. I need to live a Christian lifestyle, as well as a bisexual lifestyle together to make a mixed lifestyle. I truly believe that Jesus is my savior, and that God exists. I can only hope because of who I am, that the lord may use me to bring people to his love, and that those people he wants me to save are those which have had such oppressions make them shy away from him.

I felt that these thoughts should be shared and I hope it may help others to understand where I’m coming from.

~Estena~

Very well said :) Keep the faith :) There is a reason for all thing. And I think your right on how God will use you to bring others to him :)

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Wed 05/06/09 07:14 PM




People claiming to be Christian and then acting like they are anything but one hurts the reputation of the good Christians who follow what the bible teaches.Is there any point in being a Christian if you are going to be living a life that goes against Gods word and the bible?The gay lifestyle does not fit into anything at all in the bible or the Christian religion.The bible was so clearly againt it that it was one of the fews acts that called it a obamination.Any Christians that are supporting the Christian gay movement are clearly rebelling against God and his word.

I know I am going to get a lot of flack over this post.All Christian sin but any Christian that loves God and his word will try his best to live his life as close as possible to the bible and Gods word.That does not include making a lifelong commitment to rebel against Gods word which is exactly what happends in gay marriage.


I seem to recall that some those same bible verses that are interpreted as calling homosexuality an abomination also call for killing them. Do you choose to follow those verse as well or do you just pick and choose?
Jesus said to obey mans law so I would say murder is not a option. Your talking old testament after the death of Christ we go by the new testament we are not Jews we are Christians.


2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." I guess this would be another example of how christains pick and choose which parts of a supposedly deity inspired work are important. If the whole thing is inspired by god why is only half of it usable?
It shows why Christ had to die on the cross.

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Thu 05/07/09 04:27 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 05/07/09 04:56 AM
(((((((flowerforyou:heart:Estena:heart:flowerforyou))))))))

Estena ...you just Stay Encouraged Now, My Brother in Christ.

Forgive those who persecute you...love them anyway...and always keep your heart filled with God's Love towards all mankind.:heart:

Love you Estena.:heart:
So does God.:heart::heart::heart:


God Bless You ,Estena.

Remember..You have a Special Calling on your life, Young Man...

and God Will Lead You Every Step of the Way!!!

Stay Encouraged Now, Estena!!!flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

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Thu 05/07/09 08:01 AM

People claiming to be Christian and then acting like they are anything but one hurts the reputation of the good Christians who follow what the bible teaches.Is there any point in being a Christian if you are going to be living a life that goes against Gods word and the bible?The gay lifestyle does not fit into anything at all in the bible or the Christian religion.The bible was so clearly againt it that it was one of the fews acts that called it a obamination.Any Christians that are supporting the Christian gay movement are clearly rebelling against God and his word.

I know I am going to get a lot of flack over this post.All Christian sin but any Christian that loves God and his word will try his best to live his life as close as possible to the bible and Gods word.That does not include making a lifelong commitment to rebel against Gods word which is exactly what happends in gay marriage.


This kind of mentality just demonstrates how hateful this religion can incite people to be.

The Bible can be, and is often used, to spread bigotry and brotherly hatred in Jesus' name.

What a disgusting religion. ohwell

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Thu 05/07/09 08:11 AM


People claiming to be Christian and then acting like they are anything but one hurts the reputation of the good Christians who follow what the bible teaches.Is there any point in being a Christian if you are going to be living a life that goes against Gods word and the bible?The gay lifestyle does not fit into anything at all in the bible or the Christian religion.The bible was so clearly againt it that it was one of the fews acts that called it a obamination.Any Christians that are supporting the Christian gay movement are clearly rebelling against God and his word.

I know I am going to get a lot of flack over this post.All Christian sin but any Christian that loves God and his word will try his best to live his life as close as possible to the bible and Gods word.That does not include making a lifelong commitment to rebel against Gods word which is exactly what happends in gay marriage.


This kind of mentality just demonstrates how hateful this religion can incite people to be.

The Bible can be, and is often used, to spread bigotry and brotherly hatred in Jesus' name.

What a disgusting religion. ohwell
You know there is true chirstians and some that think they are if hatred is involved then you know they're not. Just pray they'll find a true example and find there way. Satan is very busy and of course he'd like to destroy christanity my using people and some say thing and have not even studied the bible out. Some have not even read it. So people point the figure at the hole religion as being wrong. My faith is in Christ and will always be.

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Thu 05/07/09 02:22 PM
Do not listen to these people who support homo activity. God does not like it. Im sorry if it hurts to hear it. Yes He does Love you but He hates what your doing. There is a difference. You can love someone to death but hate their bad choices. This is how the Almighty views what He teaches us to avoid. He tells us these things for a reason. Not to appease us but to save us. He cares for you and so do I. Otherwise I would grin and encourage your unrighteousness knowing that what your doing according to the bible is wrong.

Again these are not my ways but the way of the Creator God. I dont care what you do or who you do it with. I just have an obligation to let you know what The Almighty God says about it. Thats's all.
Do what you want. I personally dont care. I said what He wanted me to say, my job is done.:heart: Shalom:heart:

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Thu 05/07/09 02:39 PM
Sin is sin none is without sin. He who is cast the first stone. There is no one that doesn't have some kind of sin they struggle with be it homosexuality or glutonity jealously. That is your stuggle. If anyone has listened this man is a virgin. Which one of you can say you have done better with what ever sin you struggling with. Some have sins they can hide and act like they're better that isn't a christian love your brother, love enemy, love your neighbor. Don't go around judging. In the end your maker is your judge and that is the one I think about because I know he see and knows everything.

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Thu 05/07/09 02:59 PM

Do not listen to these people who support homo activity. God does not like it. Im sorry if it hurts to hear it. Yes He does Love you but He hates what your doing. There is a difference. You can love someone to death but hate their bad choices. This is how the Almighty views what He teaches us to avoid. He tells us these things for a reason. Not to appease us but to save us. He cares for you and so do I. Otherwise I would grin and encourage your unrighteousness knowing that what your doing according to the bible is wrong.

Again these are not my ways but the way of the Creator God. I dont care what you do or who you do it with. I just have an obligation to let you know what The Almighty God says about it. Thats's all.
Do what you want. I personally dont care. I said what He wanted me to say, my job is done.:heart: Shalom:heart:


God is against pre-marital sex. Have you ever had pre-marital sex?
Just saying.

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Thu 05/07/09 03:45 PM
Yeah I see what your saying :)

Winx's photo
Thu 05/07/09 03:47 PM

Yeah I see what your saying :)



Then it goes back to your post, "Sin is sin none is without sin. He who is cast the first stone."flowerforyou

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Thu 05/07/09 04:14 PM
Yeah it is sad to see people hating the Christian religion because of others who really just point fingers but just really haven't studied out the bible. But that is why also I believe so much in it look what satan goes for look how he mulnipulates. Even one against another. You never hear such hate in talking about other religions

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Thu 05/07/09 04:14 PM

Whoso readeth let him/her understand:

The point i makin here is simple. Yes we all sin. we can all admit to that. But the difference here is, I not encouraging sin. I not sayin, " go ahead and keep on sining, because we all do, it doesnt matter what you do because sin is sin"

No, No, NO. I simply saying that there are people on this thread who are actually encouraging the brother to keep sin. That is wrong. We should never encourage sin. Instead if a brother or sister reveals their sin to us , we are suppose to discourage it with God's word. That's all I doing. Unlike some other folks whose encouraging the brother what is contrary to what Almighty says about this act.

In all your getting, get understanding.

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Thu 05/07/09 04:20 PM

Yeah it is sad to see people hating the Christian religion because of others who really just point fingers but just really haven't studied out the bible. But that is why also I believe so much in it look what satan goes for look how he mulnipulates. Even one against another. You never hear such hate in talking about other religions
:tongue: One time I got called a snake and a devil in the christian forums and I was quoting scripture!laugh

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Thu 05/07/09 04:22 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 05/07/09 04:57 PM


Yeah I see what your saying :)



Then it goes back to your post, "Sin is sin none is without sin. He who is cast the first stone."flowerforyou


Do I condone any sin?

No.

Do I love all people ?

Yes.

So does God.:heart::heart::heart:

And if anything in any of our lives needs to be cleaned up,

GOD IS THE ONE , Who will reveal that to us All....

in due time....as we GROW in our walk with Him.

In time...as it it is a PROCESS for us all....and God is the

One who does the PERFECTING in all of our lives .....

as we become more and more like Him.

ONCE MORE.....As we grow in Him, GOD ALONE will do the perfecting in our lives.

But until that process is completed in all our lives, it is NOT

our busines to JUDGE ONE ANOTHER...

but to LOVE ONE ANOTHER.....and PRAY for one another!!!!!!!!

And like Carol wrote, "He who is without sin, let him cast

the first stone."

Well....The young man here is still a virgin..and is more without sin than any of us..yet he is judged!!!!!:cry:

Once again.....God ONLY is the One who cleans up any sin in any of our lives !!!!!

IF there is something that needs to be cleaned up(and yes,

there is probably something in ALL of our lives that need to

be cleaned up.....whether it be a judging tongue ot hatred or

unforgivness or whatever...and yes this all is sin to God) ......

then God Himself will convict

(btw , God does NOT condemn, but gently convicts)....

and deal with each one of our hearts.


BUT again.....it is NOT our place to judge each other's

shortcomings ..but to LOVE and PRAY for one another!!

But here's the thing:

When we have RELATIONSHIP with God, we can't help but LOVE !!!!

It is that simple.

But ,if there is just RELIGION in our lives, then we need to

check our hearts , and ask God to help us now to have

RELATIONSHIP with Him.

When we all have relationship..instead of just religion.....

we can't help but LOVE ALLLL PEOPLE...and will pray for all in a

spirit of LOVE..and NOT judge anymore.

" IF my people who are called by my Name , should humble themselves and PRAY........"

Notice it says PRAY.

NOT judge...but Pray!!!

And when we do?

Quess what ...God will heal our land and draw all people to Him.

But religion will just spread hatred and turn people away.


Let us LOVE One Another and PRAY for One Another Now!!!!!

With A heartful of LOVE for ALL people.:heart:

GOD IS LOVE.:heart::heart::heart:

Not Hate.

But LOVE.

Be Blessed Everyone Now.:heart::heart::heart:

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Thu 05/07/09 04:32 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 05/07/09 04:36 PM
God Says, "Come to Me as You Are."


THEN God will do the cleaning up in ALLLLL our lives....AFTERWARDS.

God first SAVES us..THEN He cleans us ALL up...AFTERWARDS...

sometimes instantaneously......but it is More often than not, a PROCESS.

(notice I said God cleans up ALL...cause there is sin in ALLLLL

our lives.....so ,who are we to JUDGE another???)


God did NOT say get cleaned up first, before you can come to Me.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou



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Thu 05/07/09 04:49 PM
MorningSong.flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Thu 05/07/09 04:52 PM
:heart:

God speaks to us in many ways. One of His tools are people. He uses our voice to speak His word. If what we are saying is not contrary to His word and that word is applicable to the situation, then we know it is Him who speaks not us. Who voulunteers to be the bearer of bad news? The truth hurts but can be done lovingly.:heart:

I sorry if your offended, but its the Most High whose using me. I give Him the glory because He is worthy.

This is showing love.......when you turn a sinner from his way and save his soul from judgement.:heart:


James 5:20
"Let him know,that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins."



Shalom

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Thu 05/07/09 04:53 PM



Yeap God is love read Jesus's teachings. Forgivness, love is found everywhere. Yeah we are suppose to strive and do the right thing it is our walk not others and to be and example of gods love. Which hate has not part in it. That is just the devil to stir things up he always around so forgive them what they do. And keep on your path. :)


God is love but he treats his mother like crap. Hmmm. Can't say as that's the kind of love I go for.
Think your a little mixed up there give me chapter and verus on that, we can talk about it.


Luke 8:19-21

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Thu 05/07/09 05:02 PM
Ahh, sin. Gotta love that catch-all.

I wasn't born in sin, and being female I am not more sinful or less then any man. I'm constantly amazed at people who are willing to think of themselves as pieces of crap and totally unworthy of anything, except what an "all powerful god" doles out, because it says it in a book written by a group of people (Jews) who were afraid that their way of life would be lost by a culture (Rome, and Alexandria in Egypt) who was open-minded to all faiths. Then you have some chap come along, with nothing original to say, who happens to have born (supposedly) the same way that previous myths (Egyptian - Horus, Greek - Dyoniusis, and Roman - Mithras) had their own deities born.

Sory, I'll stick with the original versions, not the newest thief to come along.