Topic: NASCAR!!!
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Fri 11/21/08 09:13 PM
THAT is gonna be one formidable team.

I know one thing, though. If Junior wants to be considered one of the very best, he's gonna have to step it up a bit and give the rest of HMS a run for their money.

I give him a pass for last season due to the fact that it was a new environment for him.

No free pass next season, though. He's gonna have to win more than one race and NOT do it on fuel mileage.

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Fri 11/21/08 09:37 PM
Edited by Unknow on Fri 11/21/08 09:38 PM

THAT is gonna be one formidable team.

I know one thing, though. If Junior wants to be considered one of the very best, he's gonna have to step it up a bit and give the rest of HMS a run for their money.

I give him a pass for last season due to the fact that it was a new environment for him.

No free pass next season, though. He's gonna have to win more than one race and NOT do it on fuel mileage.
I kinda don't agree, Kinda..Junior for his first year on a new team had good cars all year. Ran up front most races, and led the way for Hendrick this year all season. Even if he did only win one on fuel milage. Gorden was win less and clueless about this new car all year. I think Jrs talent will shine at Hendrick. I take my hat of to Johnson to pull of what he did!! It runs in cycles...Look at Mr dominate lil Shurb fell apart at the end. Makes Jonson's feat even more amazing!

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Fri 11/21/08 09:45 PM


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Sat 11/22/08 01:36 AM


THAT is gonna be one formidable team.

I know one thing, though. If Junior wants to be considered one of the very best, he's gonna have to step it up a bit and give the rest of HMS a run for their money.

I give him a pass for last season due to the fact that it was a new environment for him.

No free pass next season, though. He's gonna have to win more than one race and NOT do it on fuel mileage.
I kinda don't agree, Kinda..Junior for his first year on a new team had good cars all year. Ran up front most races, and led the way for Hendrick this year all season. Even if he did only win one on fuel milage. Gorden was win less and clueless about this new car all year. I think Jrs talent will shine at Hendrick. I take my hat of to Johnson to pull of what he did!! It runs in cycles...Look at Mr dominate lil Shurb fell apart at the end. Makes Jonson's feat even more amazing!

Oh I have no doubt that Junior's talent will come through.

BUT...has anyone stopped to think that, just because his last name is Earnhardt, he might NOT be as good as his dad??

I honestly kinda agree with the person ( can't think of his name off hand, he was on Wind Tunnel the a couple of weeks ago ) who said that Junior, at this point, is a very good driver, but he doesn't really have the focus necessary to be a GREAT driver.

Yes. Gordon was winless this season. I think he can be allowed a pass since that hasn't happened in 14 years.

Did you notice that his runs on the 1 1/2 mile tracks got steadily better toward the end of the season?

I don't think he'll be winless next year.

Johnson...well..what can you say. Only one other driver did what he did last season. Many racing experts are saying that Johnson's feat is actually more impressive than when Cale did it because of the amount of regulation and level of inspections that NASCAR does these days.

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Sat 11/22/08 06:12 AM
Edited by Unknow on Sat 11/22/08 06:18 AM



THAT is gonna be one formidable team.

I know one thing, though. If Junior wants to be considered one of the very best, he's gonna have to step it up a bit and give the rest of HMS a run for their money.

I give him a pass for last season due to the fact that it was a new environment for him.

No free pass next season, though. He's gonna have to win more than one race and NOT do it on fuel mileage.
I kinda don't agree, Kinda..Junior for his first year on a new team had good cars all year. Ran up front most races, and led the way for Hendrick this year all season. Even if he did only win one on fuel milage. Gorden was win less and clueless about this new car all year. I think Jrs talent will shine at Hendrick. I take my hat of to Johnson to pull of what he did!! It runs in cycles...Look at Mr dominate lil Shurb fell apart at the end. Makes Jonson's feat even more amazing!

Oh I have no doubt that Junior's talent will come through.

BUT...has anyone stopped to think that, just because his last name is Earnhardt, he might NOT be as good as his dad??

I honestly kinda agree with the person ( can't think of his name off hand, he was on Wind Tunnel the a couple of weeks ago ) who said that Junior, at this point, is a very good driver, but he doesn't really have the focus necessary to be a GREAT driver.

Yes. Gordon was winless this season. I think he can be allowed a pass since that hasn't happened in 14 years.

Did you notice that his runs on the 1 1/2 mile tracks got steadily better toward the end of the season?

I don't think he'll be winless next year.

Johnson...well..what can you say. Only one other driver did what he did last season. Many racing experts are saying that Johnson's feat is actually more impressive than when Cale did it because of the amount of regulation and level of inspections that NASCAR does these days.
I don't think anyone will get a chance for 7. If anyone its JJ. Jrs not his dad and has different driving styles. If he was more like his dad he would have more wins. I think we will see multiple championships out of him(more than one). I was at Dayton and seen his dads wreck and I was there when Jr won. What Johnson has accomplished is truly amazing in today's Nascar...drinker

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Sat 11/22/08 07:45 AM
Edited by Unknow on Sat 11/22/08 07:46 AM



THAT is gonna be one formidable team.

I know one thing, though. If Junior wants to be considered one of the very best, he's gonna have to step it up a bit and give the rest of HMS a run for their money.

I give him a pass for last season due to the fact that it was a new environment for him.

No free pass next season, though. He's gonna have to win more than one race and NOT do it on fuel mileage.
I kinda don't agree, Kinda..Junior for his first year on a new team had good cars all year. Ran up front most races, and led the way for Hendrick this year all season. Even if he did only win one on fuel milage. Gorden was win less and clueless about this new car all year. I think Jrs talent will shine at Hendrick. I take my hat of to Johnson to pull of what he did!! It runs in cycles...Look at Mr dominate lil Shurb fell apart at the end. Makes Jonson's feat even more amazing!

Oh I have no doubt that Junior's talent will come through.

BUT...has anyone stopped to think that, just because his last name is Earnhardt, he might NOT be as good as his dad??

I honestly kinda agree with the person ( can't think of his name off hand, he was on Wind Tunnel the a couple of weeks ago ) who said that Junior, at this point, is a very good driver, but he doesn't really have the focus necessary to be a GREAT driver.

Yes. Gordon was winless this season. I think he can be allowed a pass since that hasn't happened in 14 years.

Did you notice that his runs on the 1 1/2 mile tracks got steadily better toward the end of the season?

I don't think he'll be winless next year.

Johnson...well..what can you say. Only one other driver did what he did last season. Many racing experts are saying that Johnson's feat is actually more impressive than when Cale did it because of the amount of regulation and level of inspections that NASCAR does these days.
Im not bashing Gorden. Hes is already one the best. Cant take anything from him. He even has admitted his focus on the team wasnt there like it should be. Jr is always gonna have the spot light on him because of his dad. I think he handles it very well.

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Sat 11/22/08 09:54 AM



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Sat 11/22/08 10:48 AM




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Adj you messin with my head?laugh




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YES rofl


HEY NOW

i just gave you the thread you were looking for

and this is what i get

i see how it is

noway noway

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Sat 11/22/08 11:50 AM





insert hot air balloons here
Adj you messin with my head?laugh




would i do that (in best erkle voice)
YES rofl


HEY NOW

i just gave you the thread you were looking for

and this is what i get

i see how it is

noway noway

offtopic offtopic

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The Mingle cops are infiltrating all aspects of our lives..frustrated rofl

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Sat 11/22/08 11:56 AM
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Thu 02/12/09 10:37 PM


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Thu 02/12/09 11:50 PM
NASCAR, the perfect "sport" for those too stupid to understand wrestling.

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Fri 02/13/09 02:51 AM

NASCAR, the perfect "sport" for those too stupid to understand wrestling.


Wow. So all NASCAR fans are " stupid ", then???

So I suppose that means that all the drivers, and crew members, and crew chiefs and team owners are all " stupid " too??

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Fri 02/13/09 05:19 AM

NASCAR, the perfect "sport" for those too stupid to understand wrestling.


Dayum, I guess you don't know the story of Alan Kulwicki. In your own little world you might research his story and then keep in mind many NASCAR fans can walk in his shoes. And do.

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Fri 02/13/09 07:43 AM
Edited by stonekeeper on Fri 02/13/09 07:44 AM
my all time fav was dale sr. it was kind of ironic that i missed that running of daytona for the first time in many years....i quite watching after that until last year...i like mark martin...though hes not what he used to be...he is old school...dale jr...and carl edwards are amongst newer favorites...i think kyle bush is a nerveless driver...i think his career will be short and spectacular..and i absolutely despise jeff gordon...to me he pretty much represents the yuppy version of nascar...id really like to see tony stewart do well with his new team.

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Fri 02/13/09 07:54 AM
another name to watch who will be climbing the ranks will be kelly bires...hes workin his way through the bush series after dominating the midwest short tracks...hes a pretty constant middle of the pack runner in his rookie year...hes young but hes learning fast...he comes from a racing family in middle wisconsin where im originally from...i know him and a couple of his crew members...id like to see him do well with the changes he is making to his team this year.

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Fri 02/13/09 08:58 AM

NASCAR, the perfect "sport" for those too stupid to understand wrestling.


lol wrestling is a redneck soap opera ITS NOT REAL.

My favorite driver will always be Jimmie Johnson

He'll get the win again this year
you heard it here first lol

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Fri 02/13/09 10:02 AM
Drivers, mechanics, engineers...not stupid.

People who watch cars go around a track...

Oh, and listen to one of your own...

NASCAR...the fix is in...

"Tony Stewart accused NASCAR officials of 'Playing God' fabricating caution flags to tighten the racing pack near the end of the race at Phoenix Int'l Raceway.

Stewart and other prominent NASCAR figures like former driver / commentator Darrell Waltrip are wondering how 20 cautions for debris have been called in only right races"
http://www.helium.com/items/313292-cheating-and-corruption-in-nascar

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"Earnhardt said that NASCAR "has already passed the point of no return" with its schedule. Earnhardt: "No way we would ever trim the schedule back. There's no way we would change what we really already have here." Earnhardt added, "I think it's not a good idea to go making a bunch of changes, especially with the Chase." He indicated that more changes "could further alienate more fans, something NASCAR can ill afford in a time when so many seats at races are going unfilled." Earnhardt: "It is kind of foolish to want to make changes. This is kind of how we got in this spot in the first place. It's just going to snowball into more and more corruption and disagreement if we continue to change and change and change just because a guy has such a great year" (SPORTS.YAHOO.com, 10/31)"

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The next thing Nextel Cup crew chiefs and drivers will try in an attempt to get more speed out of those engines is sling monkey poop across the manifold.

They've tried everything else. Peeing moonshine on the carburetor, modifying rear springs, piddling with track bars, creating illicit aerodynamic advantages, adding screwy parts deep in the engine core, improperly attaching weight and, yes, monkey poop.

Fan outrage? Just the opposite: People keep packing the speedways. (Getty Images)
Fan outrage? Just the opposite: People keep packing the speedways. (Getty Images)
Now comes the latest news from the sport of cheats. A swath of top-tier Nextel Cup teams were fined points and their crew chiefs suspended for a variety of rules violations.

Thus a question: What do Barry Bonds, Shawne Merriman and a host of NASCAR drivers and crew chiefs have in common?

The answer: They have all cheated their asses off.

That is where the similarities end. Unlike football cheats and baseball rules breakers, NASCAR cheaters get off penalty free when it comes to the public.

In fact, the biggest, baddest cheaters in all of sports are not in baseball or the NFL. They are in NASCAR. And few fans seem to care.

NASCAR: National Association of Super Cheaters and Rascals.

The same way juicers changed the sport of baseball and dragged it through a slime pit of Congressional inquiries and needle-pinched rear ends, crew chiefs and drivers are finally being exposed for the cheating asses they have always been.

Instead of altering DNA and hat sizes, NASCAR cheaters are slathering incendiary gobbledygook on top of carburetors and creating cars so illegal they might as well have warp drives. It is not Matt Kenseth driving. It is Jean-Luc Picard.

The cars are so jacked up with cheating paraphernalia, they don't drive around a track. They break orbit.

These guys cheat and cheat and manipulate. Anything to git 'er faster.

You know what is most interesting about all of this?

Do you hear that? Do you hear that sound? It's crickets chirping.

Where is the fan outrage over an epidemic of cheating in NASCAR? Where are the special prosecutors and grand juries? Where are all the sweeping, grandiose declarations in the media that the entire sport is bursting with scoundrels and dirt bags, the way we have heard that for years about baseball and the NFL?

Where are the fans saying they will never watch another Nextel race out of frustration about all of the rule breaking, the way they did with baseball, once the cheaters were exposed as pumped-up frauds? Where are the fans ridiculing drivers the way they did the 'roid ragers in the NFL? Where are the fans of the sport demanding that titles be stripped away, the way some demanded after the scandalous accusations against Reggie Bush became public?

Despite The Carburetor Wars, despite the thick, odious stench of cheating permeating the sport, you fans have been awfully quiet in your criticism of NASCAR.

Crickets.

The argument that as a society we care more about baseball and the NFL and that is the reason why we overlook NASCAR's extensive record of cheating is mostly bogus. The sport's popularity might be stalled right now, but it is still greatly watched.

The other absolutely frustrating argument is that racing skullduggery is ingrained in the sport and that is why you fans look the other way. Nice, lovely euphemistic phrases and words for hanky-panky have popped up into the racing lexicon. Words like "creative engineering" and "micro-cheating." Micro-cheating? Was Jose Canseco "micro-'roiding?"

Many people cheat in all kinds of professions. When they are caught, there are often serious repercussions.

Not in NASCAR. In NASCAR, not only do teams cheat extensively, they are rarely busted, and when those teams do get spotted for cheating, they endure nothing more than a slap on the manifold. I have covered several Daytona 500s and a few other NASCAR races, and even I know the cheating is pervasive.

Only now is NASCAR getting slightly more punitive. But do not be fooled by NASCAR and media claims that the sport has suddenly grown intestines.

These penalties are still minutia. Daytona is called the Super Bowl of NASCAR. Crew chiefs and drivers are the football equivalent of head coaches and quarterbacks. Imagine the national outrage if it was discovered that before the Super Bowl a coach and quarterback conspired to rig pieces of equipment for better performance or have the quarterback snack on performance-enhancing drugs.

My co-worker Katie Couric -- she's my homey, we're pals -- would lead her evening broadcast with such news if it occurred.

Then imagine if after being caught only the coach was suspended and not the player.

NASCAR will only be getting tough on drivers when they start delivering lengthy suspensions for them -- the only thing that puts a real scare into any athlete is when you take significant playing time away -- if their crews are caught breaking the rules multiple times. Are we to believe that the drivers have no clue that the crew chiefs and engineers are cheating?

Did you believe Bonds when he made the ridiculous claim that instead of steroids, he thought his trainer was giving him flaxseed oil and rubbing balm?

You chuckled and gurgled when you heard that, right?

And yet with NASCAR's army of cheaters, nothing but crickets as crew chiefs claim duct-tape malfunction or swear that sticky substance on the engine is pancake syrup.

Or monkey poop.
http://www.cbssports.com/print/columns/story/9997137

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Fri 02/13/09 03:04 PM
Well Lyann, if you really think and feel that way about NASCAR and us fans then why post here. I thought this was for NASCAR fans. You have your opinion and your entitled to it but why call all of us stupid. WE haven't passed judgement on you so why pass judgement on us. If I am stupid for being a fan of NASCAR then maybe I should give my Bachelor degree back and drop out of this Masters program I am working on. I feel rather offended by you calling me stupid for watching NASCAR. I feel it was really uncalled for.

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Fri 02/13/09 06:15 PM

Drivers, mechanics, engineers...not stupid.

People who watch cars go around a track...

Oh, and listen to one of your own...

NASCAR...the fix is in...

"Tony Stewart accused NASCAR officials of 'Playing God' fabricating caution flags to tighten the racing pack near the end of the race at Phoenix Int'l Raceway.

Stewart and other prominent NASCAR figures like former driver / commentator Darrell Waltrip are wondering how 20 cautions for debris have been called in only right races"
http://www.helium.com/items/313292-cheating-and-corruption-in-nascar



In all of that long winded post, which she had no hand in writing, she fails to look any further than what works for her, and she also fails to take into account that drivers, when they are angry about things not going their way, say a whole lot of things that they then retract later in the week.

Lemme guess, Lynann. You didn't bother to look for those stories.

What a shock.