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Edited by
Winx
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http://moveon.org/tomato/?id=15777-14218854-Gi6Owix&t=4
 Edit: The sign up form wasn't on there when I played it.  Sorry about that. |
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great....now you gave me a fun game
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Edited by
Winx
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Fri 03/20/09 02:31 PM
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The sign up thing wasn't on it when I played it.
Sorry about that. |
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Woo Hoo 
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Only Tomatoes?
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i wonder if we can put our own targets on there?
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Hey I like tomatoes. But I'll tell you what you can throw at them. Or maybe not.. will leave it to your imagination..
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Id rather chop off my hand, than click on a moveon.org link.
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Id rather chop off my hand, than click on a moveon.org link. Yikes, I felt that.. Nah, I'd rather click a link then lose my hand. Even a link I disliked. 
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Edited by
Winx
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Fri 03/20/09 05:25 PM
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Invictus,
Are you that against Obama? |
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Edited by
beeorganic
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Fri 03/20/09 06:52 PM
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Id rather chop off my hand, than click on a moveon.org link. I'll match that and raise three toes. Winx- I am sincerely curious and respectfully ask what you have against AIG? Did not the Obama adminstration (Geitner) and congress OK these funds? Yes. Did they not determine this company was "too big (or too important) to fail" (I would agree that it is). Yes. Was there not a financial contract between the government and AGI? Yes. I would suggest you and others that are irate look at this from the bigger picture and believe the anger is misdirected. An example/analogy: Caterpillar Tractor Company and union workers. Cat management (the "government" of the company) v.s. union employees (AIG). A contract is negotiated and agreed upon for work to be done in exchange for financial compensation, benefits, ect.. The work and duties are performed (as per the contract). One day management walks in and says "We think we paid you too much and we want most of the money back". The union response would most likely be "good luck in trying". Another analogy to toss out here. When one goes to a bank for a loan, don't the lenders usually as what the loan is for? For a business loan, ask for a business plan? Considering the bankers in this situation didn't even bother reading the legislation for the stimulus bill before approving it, let alone ask for a business plan... I would suggest that the old adage "A fool and his money are soon parted" has been proven again. When the government can come in and seize (double tax) individual citizens of funds LEGALLY obtained "ex post facto" (after the fact) especially after an established contract, that alone should raise a huge red flag. (Edited to add- a huge red flag with a sickle and hammer on it) |
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I am 100% against Obama's policies. His first 2 months in power have reminded me of romper room. He is in so far over his head, he could catch a ride on the space shuttle, and still not see the light of day.
If this AIG nonsense hasn't convinced you that they are no different than any other politicans, I suppose nothing except the total collapse of the country will.. In April of 1945, Hitler was in his Berlin bunker, with the sounds of Red Army artillery pounding the ground above him. He and many others still believed that an army that didn't exist was going to save them. When the word finally came that his beloved General Felix Steiner wasn't coming, he began to cry. "The war is lost, and its not my fault. It was those generals, they betrayed me". Think about it... |
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Id rather chop off my hand, than click on a moveon.org link. I'll match that and raise three toes. Winx- I am sincerely curious and respectfully ask what you have against AIG? Did not the Obama adminstration (Geitner) and congress OK these funds? Yes. Did they not determine this company was "too big (or too important) to fail" (I would agree that it is). Yes. Was there not a financial contract between the government and AGI? Yes. I would suggest you and others that are irate look at this from the bigger picture and believe the anger is misdirected. An example/analogy: Caterpillar Tractor Company and union workers. Cat management (the "government" of the company) v.s. union employees (AIG). A contract is negotiated and agreed upon for work to be done in exchange for financial compensation, benefits, ect.. The work and duties are performed (as per the contract). One day management walks in and says "We think we paid you too much and we want most of the money back". The union response would most likely be "good luck in trying". Another analogy to toss out here. When one goes to a bank for a loan, don't the lenders usually as what the loan is for? For a business loan, ask for a business plan? Considering the bankers in this situation didn't even bother reading the legislation for the stimulus bill before approving it, let alone ask for a business plan... I would suggest that the old adage "A fool and his money are soon parted" has been proven again. When the government can come in and seize (double tax) individual citizens of funds LEGALLY obtained "ex post facto" (after the fact) especially after an established contract, that alone should raise a huge red flag. (Edited to add- a huge red flag with a sickle and hammer on it) did AIG have to take the money???? NO. did AIG have to give big bonuses???? NO....they are equally at fault |
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The AIG bonuses were payed with Bush money! TARP!
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UPDATE: US Sens Propose Hefty Tax On Executive Bonuses At TARP Cos
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200903171946DOWJONESDJONLINE000723_FORTUNE5.htm |
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UPDATE: US Sens Propose Hefty Tax On Executive Bonuses At TARP Cos http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200903171946DOWJONESDJONLINE000723_FORTUNE5.htm 90% ha,ha,ha,hee,hee,ha,ha,,, You know REALLY,,its NOT so much the ones getting them bonuses as much as it is that AIG ripped so many people off. I mean they were just doing their jobs ,,but the LEADERS of AIG should ALL be brought to trial for their own knowledge of their bad practices. But THAT will never happen.. as long as they have the power to keep their business going,,,as to shut it down would be to much of a blow to the world,,,and US..  DAMN SYSTEM !!!!
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Id rather chop off my hand, than click on a moveon.org link. I'll match that and raise three toes. Winx- I am sincerely curious and respectfully ask what you have against AIG? Did not the Obama adminstration (Geitner) and congress OK these funds? Yes. Did they not determine this company was "too big (or too important) to fail" (I would agree that it is). Yes. Was there not a financial contract between the government and AGI? Yes. I would suggest you and others that are irate look at this from the bigger picture and believe the anger is misdirected. An example/analogy: Caterpillar Tractor Company and union workers. Cat management (the "government" of the company) v.s. union employees (AIG). A contract is negotiated and agreed upon for work to be done in exchange for financial compensation, benefits, ect.. The work and duties are performed (as per the contract). One day management walks in and says "We think we paid you too much and we want most of the money back". The union response would most likely be "good luck in trying". Another analogy to toss out here. When one goes to a bank for a loan, don't the lenders usually as what the loan is for? For a business loan, ask for a business plan? Considering the bankers in this situation didn't even bother reading the legislation for the stimulus bill before approving it, let alone ask for a business plan... I would suggest that the old adage "A fool and his money are soon parted" has been proven again. When the government can come in and seize (double tax) individual citizens of funds LEGALLY obtained "ex post facto" (after the fact) especially after an established contract, that alone should raise a huge red flag. (Edited to add- a huge red flag with a sickle and hammer on it) agreed. the bonuses were to be two-tiered. one tier was performance-based, which they did NOT receive, and the other was for length of service, which they were guaranteed for staying on a sinking ship. otherwise, AIG would have been in this situation even sooner. they stayed the required amount of time and should receive said bonuses. |
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I am 100% against Obama's policies. His first 2 months in power have reminded me of romper room. He is in so far over his head, he could catch a ride on the space shuttle, and still not see the light of day. If this AIG nonsense hasn't convinced you that they are no different than any other politicans, I suppose nothing except the total collapse of the country will.. In April of 1945, Hitler was in his Berlin bunker, with the sounds of Red Army artillery pounding the ground above him. He and many others still believed that an army that didn't exist was going to save them. When the word finally came that his beloved General Felix Steiner wasn't coming, he began to cry. "The war is lost, and its not my fault. It was those generals, they betrayed me". Think about it... Your analogy only applies to Bush not Obama...lol |
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The bigger picture I am trying to understand is why these idiots are getting a bonus to begin with.AIG has been bleeding red ink like a severed artery and would have imploded if the government hadn't had stepped in to save them.Instead of giving a bonus these exec's should be getting demotions and pay cuts for their bad descions.
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I also will never go to that Anti American,Communist,liberal,scum sucking website moveon.org.
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