So very very true.....and how many people go out in the midnight hour, look up into the heavens with their hands outstretched to God....And say thank you......I look at all that God has given, and I take care of it, and thank him for all that He does...And when something tragic happens never ever ever would I blame God, but I would lean on him more in the hours of trouble and pray pray pray.

"If I were a younger man, I would write a history of human stupidity; and I would climb to the top of Mount McCabe and lie down on my back with my history for a pillow; and I would take from the ground some of the blue-white poison that makes statues of men; and I would make a statue of myself, lying on my back, grinning horribly, and thumbing my nose at You Know Who."

Kurt Vonnegut
Cat's Cradle

The purpose of my post was to point out that you were intentionally 'OFF TOPIC', 'threadbashing' and 'proselytizing'. I further suggested that your post was a model of 'bad faith'. That you were pretending to be 'on topic', but barged in with proselytizing blend of 'single-dogmatic-religious-party-lines'.

Of course, you are welcomed to partake in this debate. It raises the opportunity to explore, compare, discuss, and debate 346 well researched and documented similarities between two giant religious-spiritual 'icons'. That is what THIS GENERAL RELIGION THEAD is about.

Again, with this latest reply of yours, you highjacked the general religion forum, as well as this thread, with yet more 'party-line' proselytizing.

Address the topic of the thread, or move on.

Your proselytizing is an insult to people's intelligence, including your own.

We understand what you believe.
We understand that you only believe in one guy.
And I trust most of us respect your right to believe exactly what you choose to believe.

Now, here is the point. If this belief of yours forbids you to explore the 346 similarities between 'J' and 'K', which is the legitimate invitation of this thread, then have the honesty to go on to threads where you have permission to address the questions raised.

These forums are civilized environment. It could easily be compared to a college, where a group of people have gathered in a lecture room, to discuss, at the invitiation of a host, the topic proposed above.

If someone were to 'bash-in' with 'proselytizing' BS of any denomination or nature, which obliterated the topic of the exchange, they would be kindly invited to leave the room.

That simple.

Respect the 'on topic' and 'non-proselytizing' rules of this site. Debate the 346 similarities proposed by the host or move on.

Yet more 'OFF TOPIC' - 'PROSELYTIZING' threadbashing.

Speak to the 346 similarities. That's what this htread is about.

Again, this is PREPOSTEROUSLY 'OFF TOPIC' and gross 'PROSELYTIZING'.

Get to topic, or save it!!!

the very FIRST essence of not judging, is to NOT judge "judging" as wrong???

all is common, all is sanity, all is reasoning, all is normal, all is solutions in progress, all is good that appear as good and bad for a spell, all is love, all is one mind and one accord, of all things as common unto all mankind as equals??

'OFF TOPIC' !!!

Go to the christian forum, and start a 'miracles-for-feral' thread.

Double posting. Sorry.

The orthodox Xian explaination is that the Devil knew of g-d's plan so he went about the world creating dying and resurecting g-ds to confuse everyone else.

Jesus said, YE ARE ALL GODS???

there is no way in heaven or earth, to make this singular???

hell on earth has always been created by man trying to do so???

the saying itself means every human ever born???

that means each was the same as himself, as jesus???

that means nothing is plagerism, just from the same source, the truth, of equal love of all, in the heart of each human, that spoke before christ came, and after christ came???

he made himself as nothing, which can be seen in many great leaders down thru time, besides jesus???

that means each live out a plight as mortal unwise man for a spell, gathering but experience, of percieved "good and bad", TWO points of reference needed in the BRAIN, for any KNOWING OF GOOD???

then later, EACH become as wise and immortal, as what is a god, as YE ARE ALL GODS, but no beginning and no ending, no bias, no unequality, which is indeed, then seeing each human as equal, and all having no beginning or no ending???

peace

This is my original post......so where is this off the original OP


Now someone came and asked something after me referring to my post...which I answered......so where exactly did you have a problem with it..

Read my original post....I don't believe any of it.....which is what I posted in my original answer.....don't like it.....oh well to bad....I don't post to please you.

Really where did Jesus say that?

Psalms 82:6, I have said, Ye are gods; and ALL of you are children of the most High.

John:33-34 "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.--John 15:6

HELL ON EARTH???

WEEPING, NASHING, OF TEETH, SEPERATED FROM GOD, WHICH GOD IS LOVE???

if each is a god, then all are equal and sovergin, THAT BELIEVE ALL ARE EQUAL???

so, then WHAT IS "ME" in the text above???

"ME" THE PREMISE OF THE "GODS" OR HIGHER REALMS???

ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL IN THE SIGHT OF GOD, of one blood???

for god so loved the "world", which seems to imply ALL???

SO PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVE FOUND "LOVE" WITHIN, OR "GOD" WITHIN, THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN BE WITHIN, LOVE THE WHOLE WORLD???

AND STAND AGAINST ONLY THOSE THAT DO NOT HONOR ALL AS EQUALS???

who is of love, of god on earth, but those that see all as equal???

notice the "men" gather them, and throw them into the fire, not god, WHEN MEN LEAVE EQUALITY, AS IN WAR, AND BURN PEOPLES???

hitler cast many into the fire???

It would appear that your bearings are off.

I didn't comment on your first post, nor did I comment on the rather lenghty and pontificating answer you gave to a question asked.

I pointed the 'OFF TOPIC' and 'HIGHJACK' run when you couldn't stop yourself from driving YOUR 'OFF TOPIC' agenda into oblivion. That's highjacking the topic of a thread.

If you wish to keep hammering an 'off topic' point with someone, simply invite them to do so through e-mail, or start a thread of your own in the christian café, and knock yourself out.

This thread compares 346 similarities between Jesus and Krishna life stories. Besides the fact that you don't believe in the similarities, which you stated a heck of a while back, do you wish to add anything else which pertains to anyone of the hundreds of similarities???

You can tear up any of the similarities you wish with contracticting FACTS, if you have any to submit. And while you might really 'itch' to throw bible quotes around, they simply are of no use for this topic. That 'book' of yours came after Krishna, which is a central aspect of the questions raised through this thread.

Just stay 'on topic'. Simple!

As a hint to help you stay focused and 'on-topic': ... just read the similarities listed in the OP, and give us your very own thoughts as to what could explain such fortuitous coincidences in Jesus' life account???

The thing that seems so obvious to me is that people who attempt to proselytize their version of Christianity never seem to even know what their doctrine even says.

In fact, this is one place where the Old and New testaments actually agree on something. We are Gods. This was stated in both the Old and New testaments.

This is one of the few things that the two testaments actually agree on.

So if we want to give Jesus' words any respect, let us know that we are Gods.

And that would include Krishna and Buddha and everyone.

So this Christian bigotry of denouncing all 'non-Christians' as 'non-believers' who are rejecting God is utter nonsense, and this is verified by both of their testaments.

The book just doesn't support what the religion has become.

Even the Bible has Jesus confessing that Krishna is God for he has said "Ye are all gods!".

Now can we cease the bigotry and accept the biblical teachings of Jesus that all men are Gods?

How did Christians ever turn that around in the first place?

The doctrine never seems to support what the religion has become.

You can't be serious.....listen again like I said if topic was about krisna alone then point taken...But it was not and you sir don't have the right nor are you appointed thread god to tell me how to post...How arrogant is that. I didn't hijack anything...if I don't believe that there is anyone but Christ like I said I am not going to addres the krisna part of this thread...why would I when I don't believe it.

I also have no control of what others put as you do not either...and if someone asks a question directly to me, I am going to answer it end of story...

And again obviously others are interested enough in my answers to ask question and if you don't like it...oh well again to bad. The only contradicting fact I have which I stated was that there is no other then Christ....God didn't say he had many god sons now did he and again I can only answer what I know to be truth...

I am staying on topic....as the first of the entire OP is Jesus...so I guess talking about Jesus is right on topic I would say.

I don't believe the similarities so I guess I will take it in the direction of satan now and false gods and prophets...

It doesn't matter what you believe, these other gods are documented in History,and all were documented prior to Jesus.

Also, (as I said earlier in the thread)
Heck, just watch Penn & Teller's "The Bible is B#llSh@t"

Found here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RV46fsmx6E

Jesus wasn't the only "messiah" during his time!

Lets first takes Psalms 82:6 Davidben

Psalm 82 is a petition beseeching God to judge the so-called gods for their failure to maintain justice and righteousness. It is clear from the context that the gods are the MEN not gods Davidben like you are looking at it. These MEN God appointed to rule and judge the people. Note that it is never in caps, which means that they are not even close to being on the same level as GOD....THE LORD OF ALL...They are mere, people.

The Psalmist provides support for viewing these gods as human beings since in v. 7 he says that they shall die like all other men. In fact, the following Psalm echoes the same theme of 82 and calls human judges gods:

"Do you indeed speak righteousness, O gods? Do you judge uprightly, O sons of men? No, in heart you work unrighteousness; On earth you weigh out the violence of your hands. The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth. They have venom like the venom of a serpent; Like a deaf cobra that stops up its ear, So that it does not hear the voice of charmers, Or a skillful caster of spells. O God, shatter their teeth in their mouth; Break out the fangs of the young lions, O LORD. Let them flow away like water that runs off; When he aims his arrows, let them be as headless shafts. Let them be as a snail which melts away as it goes along, Like the miscarriages of a woman which never see the sun. Before your pots can feel the fire of thorns He will sweep them away with a whirlwind, the green and the burning alike. The righteous will rejoice when he sees the vengeance; He will wash his feet in the blood of the wicked. And men will say, ‘Surely there is a reward for the righteous; Surely there is a God who judges on earth!’" Psalm 58:1-11 NASB

Now, in order to identify who exactly were these human rulers/judges we need to look at other passages of Scripture:

"At that time I said to you, ‘I am not able to bear you by myself. The LORD your God has multiplied you, and behold, you are today as numerous as the stars of heaven. May the LORD, the God of your fathers, make you a thousand times as many as you are and bless you, as he has promised you! How can I bear by myself the weight and burden of you and your strife? Choose for your tribes wise, understanding, and experienced men, and I will appoint them as your heads.’ And you answered me, ‘The thing that you have spoken is good for us to do.’ So I took the heads of your tribes, wise and experienced men, and set them as heads over you, commanders of thousands, commanders of hundreds, commanders of fifties, commanders of tens, and officers, throughout your tribes. And I charged your judges at that time, ‘Hear the cases between your brothers, and judge righteously between a man and his brother or the alien who is with him. You shall not be partial in judgment. You shall hear the small and the great alike. You shall not be intimidated by anyone, for the judgment is God's. And the case that is too hard for you, you shall bring to me, and I will hear it.’ And I commanded you at that time all the things that you should do." Deuteronomy 1:9-17

33He said this to indicate the kind of death he was to die. 34The crowd answered him, ‘We have heard from the law that the Messiah* remains for ever. How can you say that the Son of Man must be lifted up? Who is this Son of Man?’ 35Jesus said to them, ‘The light is with you for a little longer. Walk while you have the light, so that the darkness may not overtake you. If you walk in the darkness, you do not know where you are going. 36While you have the light, believe in the light, so that you may become children of light.

The Unbelief of the People

After Jesus had said this, he departed and hid from them. 37Although he had performed so many signs in their presence, they did not believe in him. 38This was to fulfil the word spoken by the prophet Isaiah: ‘Lord, who has believed our message,

AGAIN TOTAL MISUNDERSTANDING OF SCRIPTURE......Which also clearly states that you don't believe with all your heart, soul, and mind...it will always not make sense to you....which I have seen over and over and over again.

ooops double post