Topic: highschool sweethearts
jeanc200358's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:29 PM
OH YES IT MOST CERTAINLY DOES! ACCORDING TO THE LAW!!!!

WHAT DO YOU THINK 'STATUTORY RAPE' MEANS????

daniel48706's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:30 PM
I am sorry jean but I will not let you take that cop out wiht me. yes
you were seventeen. You knew exactly what you were doing, and you knew
ecatly what you wanted to do. Did you tell him no? Did you do NAYTHING
to try and prevcent it or to suggest you did nt want it? NO. It was
consentual.

daniel48706's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:32 PM
the definition of statutory rape is the act of an adut or person old
enough to know the laws of consent haveing sexual acts (not neccesarily
penetration) with a child too young to understand what he or she is
doing and to make an adult choice. If you were twleve I would agree it
was statutory. But you were seventeen, so dont try and convince me that
you dod not know better.

jeanc200358's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:35 PM
Excuse me..no one said a thing about not knowing better. I was 16, not
seventeen, when we were seeing each other, but that's BESIDE the POINT.

He was an adult. The law stated the age of consent was 18, not 17, not
16.

I loved him...he abandoned me and his firstborn child so, in retrospect,
I wouldn't have given a **** if he was prosecuted for statutory rape, in
light of the fact he felt he should be absolved of his financial and
moral obligations to HIS child.

unsure's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:36 PM
I am not going to get into this long story but we are going through this
situation now. My son is 18 and he EX gf is 15..get the picture??
Luckily her parents did not press charges ONLY because she was not a
virgin.
My son has dated her for over 2 years before anything has happened...he
is truly in love with this girl. He is about to graduate and go to
college and so they have decided to break it off...now back to your
question.
NO I do not feel they should have to register as a sex offender. She was
not raped...the sad thing is, he is truly in love with her. I do
understand they do put an age restriction on here for a reason. My
question is this...where are her parents?? I know this girl's parents
begged my son to date her because he helped keep her off drugs, off
alcohol, and keep her in church.
I think this is a very good topic daniel...thanks for posting it
flowerforyou

daniel48706's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:38 PM
I am sorry jean but no. In this case, my opinion of the law is that it
needs to be looked at and adjusted. You cannot ruin a persons life
becsue they had consentual sex with their highschool sweetheart (meaning
someone within a coupleyears of being the same age).You CAN followthe
system and make him pay for support he has not given. And if that dont
work then work on getting that issue changed as well. but two wrongs do
not make a right, ever.

unsure's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:39 PM
My question is this jean...if he would have payed support, would you
consider him a rapist then???
You act like its all about money...I don't mean to be rude but I am just
trying to see where you are coming from!!

daniel48706's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:42 PM
my pleasure un, thank you for your testimonail on the subject. Anythign
you care to add will be welcome.

and to add onto what you said about her parents not pressing charges
simply because she was not a virgian, I have a question. So a 16 year
old (tothrow a number) is notmature enough to choose to have consentual
sex unless she ahs already had sex? That is one of the biggest
hipocratic thigs I have heard (and no hun you did nto tell me of it
first. There are some states that this is actualyt he law)

jeanc200358's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:43 PM
*I* didn't consider him a rapist then, nor do *I* consider him a rapist
now.

In the eyes of the LAW, however, he committed an act of statutory rape.
This was 1975, too, not 2007.

I am saying that, in retrospect, I don't give two hoots in hell WHAT
happened to the SOB, whether it be serving time in jail, or what,
considering he walked out on me and his firstborn child AND, on top of
that, proceeded to father five more of his own in the ensuing years, and
become a stepfather to three more.

TxsGal3333's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:44 PM
Well as far as having to register as a sex offender no I don't agree
with it in all the cases but..... at 18 the boy should have been taught
the laws and what happens if you break them. As far as registering that
has been on the books and the bill was passsed the problem is we as
adults do not get out there and Vote like we should whe these laws are
being put on the books. But then some will ask at what age should they
be responsable for there actions 20,25. We clarify at the ripe ole age
of 18 they are now adults. No one is beyond the law just because they do
not know it a judge will tell you real quick not knowing the Laws is no
excuse and will not be used as one. They are now adults and should know
by then the laws.

jp4023's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:46 PM
you do the crime you do the time, besides kids will be kids and do
whatever they want

unsure's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:46 PM
In our situation daniel, her parents told her that she was not going to
ruin my sons life. I am just thankful that her parents liked my son.
Now there are new laws that you only have to be 16 to have sex..my son
found those new laws and they are in effect now.

jeanc200358's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:46 PM
Daniel, he was not my high school sweetheart. He was six years older
than me and an adult.

As I understand it, the age of consent in most places now is 16. And
it's one thing to be an 18 year old kid and be considered a legal adult,
and be a 22 year old MAN and be involved with a 16-year old teenaged
girl.


If my daughter had gotten pregnant by a 22 year old man when she was 16?
He'd wish he'd have been jailed if I ever had gotten hold of him.

daniel48706's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:47 PM
I agree with you texas, but I am talking more alongthe lines of morally
than legally. As you said (I believe) you do not agree withit either;
neihter do I. however I also dont agree with abortions for any reason,
but does that change how I react to them and all? no cause i know that
the government has okeyed it even if I dont agree with it.

jeanc200358's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:47 PM
I'm trying my best to believe your comment about "you act like it's all
about money" was stated without first thinking about what it is you
wrote.

huh

unsure's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:48 PM
UMMM thats all you talked about...read what you wrote

jeanc200358's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:50 PM
I know EXACTLY what I wrote..I am just shaking my head in disbelief at
YOUR comment about it, however.

daniel48706's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:51 PM
talk about hypocracy and doubel standards jean. I am sorry, but I can
not agree with sentencing a PERSON to a life of registration, for a
youthful choice. and as far as him being 22(?) and you sixteen. Tat is
six years differance. I am 32 years old. I f I slept with petite
kitten who is 26 years old would that make me a rapist, even if she
consented?
My pointhere is, thatat 16 YOU knew exactly waht you were doing, and you
agreed to it. Now if it was a mistake then it was a mistake, but that
other person shuold not be charged with rape when you were old enough to
say no and chose not to. Period.

(sorry kitten for using you as an example here, flowerforyou)

daniel48706's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:53 PM
better yet jean, as most people here know,I am intereted in gettingto
know AutumnLee better. Lets say things worked out and we get together,
she is 21, elevenyears younger than me. Would that make me a rapist?
She's almost young enough to be my daughter, so would that make me a
rapist?

jeanc200358's photo
Thu 05/03/07 07:54 PM
And I'm sorry, Daniel, but your "justification" and "reasoning" is
simply just too absurd for me to even respond to.