Topic: Why do you bother?
Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:36 PM

just a question i'm asking out of curiousity....dan...why is it ok to tell christians they are wrong? that isn't any different than them telling you that you are wrong...is it?


They tell me so i tell them. Neither of us are right to do so.


yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:39 PM


just a question i'm asking out of curiousity....dan...why is it ok to tell christians they are wrong? that isn't any different than them telling you that you are wrong...is it?


They tell me so i tell them. Neither of us are right to do so.




you are right in that IMO. i posted my answer to your question about meeting in the middle 2 times but everyone replied to the posts that annoyed them. i have seen just as many non-christians go into a thread and tell people they are wrong as much as i have seen christians do that.

it really goes both ways and 2 wrongs don't make a right

tngxl65's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:42 PM


Have you investigated the resurrection?


Kind of a CSI Jerusalem? In this one the person was seen killed, but then shows up again 3 days later still alive, then disappears for a few thousand years.

Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:44 PM



just a question i'm asking out of curiousity....dan...why is it ok to tell christians they are wrong? that isn't any different than them telling you that you are wrong...is it?


They tell me so i tell them. Neither of us are right to do so.




you are right in that IMO. i posted my answer to your question about meeting in the middle 2 times but everyone replied to the posts that annoyed them. i have seen just as many non-christians go into a thread and tell people they are wrong as much as i have seen christians do that.

it really goes both ways and 2 wrongs don't make a right


I guess, its much more amusing to be debating with someone with an opposing viewpoint, than someone who agrees with you.

Maybe that is the answer. Just because its fun.

I dont often get too involved in religious threads, im hardly an expert(i dont even pass as a beginner). When i do maybe i just feel like bashing a christian a bit, im not sure. I certainly dont have a need to convince anyone of anything.

907daydreamer's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:46 PM
I think sometimes we argue because we want to see the side of the other person
but admitting that would mean admitting that we might be wrong

Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:46 PM



Have you investigated the resurrection?


Kind of a CSI Jerusalem? In this one the person was seen killed, but then shows up again 3 days later still alive, then disappears for a few thousand years.


Hahaha

I was hoping Colombo was on the case

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:47 PM




just a question i'm asking out of curiousity....dan...why is it ok to tell christians they are wrong? that isn't any different than them telling you that you are wrong...is it?


They tell me so i tell them. Neither of us are right to do so.




you are right in that IMO. i posted my answer to your question about meeting in the middle 2 times but everyone replied to the posts that annoyed them. i have seen just as many non-christians go into a thread and tell people they are wrong as much as i have seen christians do that.

it really goes both ways and 2 wrongs don't make a right


I guess, its much more amusing to be debating with someone with an opposing viewpoint, than someone who agrees with you.

Maybe that is the answer. Just because its fun.

I dont often get too involved in religious threads, im hardly an expert(i dont even pass as a beginner). When i do maybe i just feel like bashing a christian a bit, im not sure. I certainly dont have a need to convince anyone of anything.



you answered your own question then. for you any way.

but it does go both ways...maybe a christian gets tired of people questioning their beliefs and lashes out to others too.

it doesn't make it right. the post i mentioned wasn't in agreement or anything. it was an honest answer from me to your question....but did you notice that my post was over looked by everyone?

something to think about anyway

Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:56 PM


you answered your own question then. for you any way.

but it does go both ways...maybe a christian gets tired of people questioning their beliefs and lashes out to others too.

it doesn't make it right. the post i mentioned wasn't in agreement or anything. it was an honest answer from me to your question....but did you notice that my post was over looked by everyone?

something to think about anyway


Im not sure what post you mean now, i have reponded to you several times in this thread from the start. I responded to everything i felt necessary to.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:58 PM

i don't think it's about meeting in the middle. i think it's more of how you look at things. i try to look at differences as a learning experience. no one can change others either way. even though i may not agree...i can learn new things about others


lol...sorry dan...this one

i wasn't trying to say you were ignoring me...i thought it intersting that everyone missed it.

Jess642's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:59 PM
I'm still right.








laugh

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 09:04 PM

I think sometimes we argue because we want to see the side of the other person
but admitting that would mean admitting that we might be wrong


could be that also

Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 09:06 PM


i don't think it's about meeting in the middle. i think it's more of how you look at things. i try to look at differences as a learning experience. no one can change others either way. even though i may not agree...i can learn new things about others


lol...sorry dan...this one

i wasn't trying to say you were ignoring me...i thought it intersting that everyone missed it.


I read it, i didnt miss it, i guess i never felt a need to respond to that one. But yes, it is a learning experience getting in these discussions.

Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 09:07 PM

I'm still right.








laugh


Yeah but you arent as right as i am! lol

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 09:08 PM
like i said dan...i think you answered the question for yourself. others may have different reasons. attacks come from all sides. all sides tell the others they are wrong.

but you get the picture anyway flowerforyou

tngxl65's photo
Thu 03/12/09 09:11 PM
This type of discussion I enjoy. But then again this isn't really a religious discussion.

Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 09:13 PM
Edited by Dan99 on Thu 03/12/09 09:14 PM

like i said dan...i think you answered the question for yourself. others may have different reasons. attacks come from all sides. all sides tell the others they are wrong.

but you get the picture anyway flowerforyou


I think i was probably asking for the opinion of others rather than working out why it is that i do it. I dont often get involved with religion, so i am more interested in the reasons of people such as yourself, Abra, Krimsa, Morningsong, Feral, Tribo(where is he?!). i.e the people that argue(for want of a better word) day in day out about the same thing.


Jess642's photo
Thu 03/12/09 09:39 PM


I'm still right.








laugh


Yeah but you arent as right as i am! lol


With you in the north and me in the south, and my toilet water spinning one way, and yours the other...

your right would be my left...


....and put the seat down when you leave, please??

(makes as much sense as half of the posts in here......:wink: )


Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 10:19 PM



I'm still right.








laugh


Yeah but you arent as right as i am! lol


With you in the north and me in the south, and my toilet water spinning one way, and yours the other...

your right would be my left...


....and put the seat down when you leave, please??

(makes as much sense as half of the posts in here......:wink: )




I never bothered putting it up in the first place..

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/13/09 05:29 AM
laugh eeeewwwwwww on the toilet seat

i try not to argue....sometimes it gets the better of me. i prefer to learn new and different things

splendidlife's photo
Fri 03/13/09 07:57 AM
Edited by splendidlife on Fri 03/13/09 08:22 AM


like i said dan...i think you answered the question for yourself. others may have different reasons. attacks come from all sides. all sides tell the others they are wrong.

but you get the picture anyway flowerforyou


I think i was probably asking for the opinion of others rather than working out why it is that i do it. I dont often get involved with religion, so i am more interested in the reasons of people such as yourself, Abra, Krimsa, Morningsong, Feral, Tribo(where is he?!). i.e the people that argue(for want of a better word) day in day out about the same thing.




Tribo got tired of big brother's online involvement and moved to the Philippines.

I think people "argue" day in and day out because they desperately want to be heard and validated. To be heard and understood by another and to have them agree with one's own "reality" seems like the ultimate cure for loneliness. It's illusion.

We seem addicted to being "right", no matter what the belief and no matter the cost or isolation. When ever I can't see past having to be right, I feel isolated and dumb... Not because I haven't been able to prove I'm right... It's more because I haven't fully embraced the fact that I have my head shoved just as deeply up my ass as the next guy.

As I stumble about, wondering who the hell I am, I stop in here and look around for any words that might link to some possible universal connection between all things. It's not any religious dogma that has me feeling any more connected to the whole. It's in the words of each person (right or wrong). It's in the fight to be right and the break-down into understanding that we are all toddlers in this thing.