A. Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, destroy their ruggedness.

B. Get control of all means of publicity and thereby:

Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays and other trivialities.

Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.

Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy.

Always preach true democracy but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.

By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders, and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.

By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues:

honesty,

sobriety,

continence,

faith in the pledged word,

ruggedness.

C. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscating them and leaving the population helpless.

well said.

sounds like whats going on

Think2Deep,

Sorry dude... But I calls'em as I reads'em.

sorry, but your right wing cat calling doesn't fit into this man's life. i'm not rightwing, i'm not leftwing, i'm not religious, i can actually see outside of the box and see the strangeness in all of the above type people. i calls them as i sees them too, only i sees more than you do. i don't though because you could be a disinformationalist. and just don't want anyone else to see it.

the underlined is suppose to say "i don't know though

Disinformationalist... That's crisp!

I've been accused of worse in the past. So that's alright.

I do apologize for the name calling. I'm off my medication tonight.

I need more porno... to keep my mind off of politics!

Oh and by the way, your intimidation tactics worked! Since you see outside the box (and I don't) and you see more than me, I guess I shouldn't even bother attempting to have an exchange of ideas with you.

I am a fan of your work though, so I will continue to read your threads without any further commentary on my part!

Have a lovely Friday!

Oh yeah, and this is for you... Go on, see what's inside the box!

Where have you been t2d, since when was there a time when men were not interested in sexual things. You act as if you were born yesterday. It's no secret that the authorities in the church are often the worst offenders.

Divide people in hostile groups?, the church has already done that with guilt and fear and prejudices of all kinds, and frankly it works just the opposite, just makes people want to do exactly the opposite. My parents never learned that and I guess you haven't learned it.

We would be far better off with out religion causing division in the whole dang world. People don't see it as personal anymore, they have to force it on others to feel good about themselves. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders? And who would be those natural leaders? The church?

Actually I shouldn't say religion, as religion by itself is not the problem, it's the people that use religion and interpret religion to divide people. Though personally I could stand a few centuries with out religion at all.

You are dividing people yourself by deciding who is honest, sober, etc. Please t2d, you are sounding like the right wing nut-job yourself.

The world is not coming to an end. There are wonderful things going on in the world, there are more good people than not. There has always been evil in the world, but if one only focuses on that, you will end up seeing nothing but negativity.

Those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither and will lose both. -Benjamin Franklin

Your "communist" list isn't a sign of Obama being the antichrist and trying to take over our nation. You don't think outside of any "box" or "see" anything.

True the things you pointed out are devastating to a government.

True there are elected people whom I believe strive for the communist movement (Hillary Clinton).

But your not as clever as you think you are. The Founding Fathers foresaw these problems and created a Bill of Rights in an attempt to prevent these situations from happening.

These issues that you state claiming to be so "enlightened" above us regular dullards are, simply put, the course of human nature.

We have no one to blame but ourselves. If we study every culture and every government you see that the rise and fall of nations is simply human. Nothing is perfect. Nothing is immutable. Nothing is eternal. And as our government and our economy fluctuates so will our "status quo" as to what is normal and whats not.

Our society is no more marketed towards sex today than it was 50 years ago. And 100 years ago we might have found a more "repressed" society, but as per social norms then you would have 30+ year old men marrying 15 year old girls.

In conclusion while there is nothing wrong with pointing out the faults of human nature and our current society. You also brought nothing constructive to the table.

it can apply now, in the future and in the past.

I think they are making a huge mistake playing the class warfare game.

lol, i like that, i'm a sucker for looking in boxes.

O, with what freshness,
what solemnity and beauty,
is each new day born;
as if to say to insensate man,
'Behold!
thou hast one more chance!
Strive for immortal glory!'

Harriet Beecher Stowe

i welcome commentary from you, in the words of naom chomsky:

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
-- Noam Chomsky

that goes for everyone, even if we don't agree with someone, we should respect their right to say what they will. one of the things i believe is that, if we don't atleast take something that someone says and try to understand why they are saying it, then we have closed ourselves to possibilities that we may never get the opportunity to see again.