Topic: Studies show, martial arts are useless in the streets...
GirlsAreWhack's photo
Sun 02/22/09 06:28 AM
So before you decide to take it for "self defense", think again.

My qualifications for writing all this are: 8 year wrestler, former corporal in the marines, football (fullback) my whole life, martial arts for 3 years, 6 years of studying exercise science, and currently a personal trainer on a military base.

These sports are nothing but pure violence, and instructors try to brainwash you into thinking otherwise. Now I have nothing against cardio kickboxing, which I teach at the gym I work at. Instructors try to say its about scoring points, when its really not. These instructors will say anything to make it seem safe. They start you off wearing protection, going slow, then after awhile you take the gear off, hit harder, and feel like its no big deal because its about "scoring points". But you need to ask yourself, "whats the point of me kicking him in the head?" etc. I signed up to serve my country, to defend against people attacking my country. But what on earth did the guy/girl standing in front of u in the ring/cage/mat, do to you, to cause you to beat them up? Would u beat up a random person on the streets? Of course not, they did nothing to you! So why do it to them?

These instructors try to use words like focus, balance, concentration, coordination, discipline, self-control (stuff you can learn in ANY sport) to make it seem like a good sport. They say its not about fighting, even though....ummm, its called "fighting" lol. And the people who do it are called "fighters", and UFC stands for Ultimate FIGHTING Championship. If you want to learn balance, concentration, etc...you take yoga, gymnastics, fencing, etc.

In any other sport, if someone is injured, everyone kneels and prays together, like when Anquan Boldin got knocked out in the NFL game weeks ago. In MMA, someone is always on the ground injured after a fight, and the whole crowd is cheering. Wow, thats disgusting.

Have you ever looked up in a dictionary what "boxing", "martial arts" means? Boxing means "FIGHTING with the fists, and martial arts means "art of war". Hmmm, art of war? Why is "art of war" being taught to people who arent in war, or to 5 year olds???

Over and over again, people in these sports talk about how safe it is, how its MUCH safer than gymnastics, soccer, hockey, etc. Compare the amount of blood spilt in martial arts, to soccer. Compare the amount of people passed out in MMA, to gymnastics. NOW which is worse? If someone dies in soccer, its not as a result of SOCCER. There have been deaths in football, but because the guy got a heart attack or something. In fighting, the deaths theyve had, were a result of the FIGHT. In soccer if a guy ends up on a stretcher, its not because someone else purposely (intentionally) broke his foot...but in fighting, it IS because someone intentionally broke his foot. And, why on earth do they allow you to CHOKE people?

If soccer, football, hockey, etc has more injuries, perhaps its because soccer/football/hockey players compete on a WEEKLY basis for HOURS. Whereas in MMA and all those violent sports, they compete every month or every few months for 5-15 minutes.

So martial arts teach balance, focus, concentration, coordination, body conditioning? So does every other sport. So how come soccer players can play for 2 hours and not get worn out? But in MMA, Kimbo Slice gets knocked out in 14 seconds by a no-name guy with pink hair. Tim Sylvia gets choked out within a minute or two by Fedor. And some people get knocked out in a matter of seconds, or 10 minutes into a fight theyre worn out. Yeah, sounds to me like they have incredible body conditioning. How come Brock Lesnar went out for football and couldnt even make the practice squad for the Vikings? The best athletes in the world with the best body conditioning, are triathlon athletes and Tour De France guys. YOU try riding a bike for 8 hours non-stop up and down mountains going 40 mph like they do! If martial arts teaches such great focus, balance, concentration etc (which u NEED to play racquetball), then why on earth do i beat all my "martial art" friends in racquetball???? You'd think theyd be PROS at that.

Martial arts isnt about fighting? So why did Chuck Lidell say in an NBC interview, "we wouldnt be doing this stuff if we didnt have issues". If its about respect, self-control, discipline....then why are they fighting? Seriously, dont people ever take the time out of their lives to THINK? If it teaches self-control, discipline, respect...then.why.on.earth.are.you.fighting? Because you're instructor brainwashes you to think its NOT fighting...because sadly, people these days believe everything they hear, and instructors know that.

Ive seen a few shows, like Fight Science, Combat Sports on Comcast...and the whole show was basically showing every way to hurt a person, how to hit them hard enough it damages their body, or gives them a concussion.....wow, thats sickening.

Who watches UFC and all these pointless sports? MOST are young people, Rednecks, College kids, Drunks, party goers, "Bad asses", people in the military who love fighting, troublemakers. If MMA was such a safe, good sport...why is it banned in many states? Why isnt it mainstream? Why isnt MMA in the olympics? Boxing and tae kwon do are, but they are on the verge of being taken out of the olympics. EliteXC was on CBS twice, and now its done. Why is it banned in many countries?

Many times, martial art people try to say, "its about self defense. If someone came in your home and tried to attack your mother, would u just sit there?"....uhh, what on EARTH does some criminal intruding in my house and attacking my mother, have to do with me getting in a cage with some random guy who did NOTHING to me? If a guy attacks you, kick him in the nuts and run. Oh no but that’s being a ***** right? Yes because if a gun is pointed at u, u DON’T want to be a *****, right? Lmfao. You can easily take cardio kickboxing, tang soo do, tai chi…no sparring involved, just hit bags and dummies, and learn LOTS of self defense techniques.

Funny how the rate of people being attacked, assaulted, sexually assaulted, and raped is on the RISE, and in the same time, martial art people try to say their sport is fast-growing. So either these people are learning NOTHING about how to defend themselves in the real world, or they are taking their knowledge to the streets and beating people up for fun.

Why do people enjoy martial arts so much? Because they enjoy violent entertainment. They say more and more girls are taking it, yet the rate of women being abused/assaulted and raped, is on the rise. Some girls take it and kickboxing, etc because they once got attacked and want to learn defense now. Bull****. If someone shoots you, you probably want to BAN guns. If some gang attacks you, you probably make an effort to get rid of gangs. So if someone attacks you and beats you up, you should want to teach people NOT to fight. By opening your own gym to teach girls to defend themselves and sending them to competitions, or by joining mma/kickboxing/etc, ur putting more violence in this world.

How exactly does kicking someone in the head, punching someone, kneeing them in the liver, choking them out, a SAFE thing, and what is the POINT of it? How does that teach focus, balance, concentration, etc. Why is it that when a guy is knocked down and defenseless, the attacker STILL goes at him? Like when Lesnar kept pounding Couture, obviously Couture was done, and Lesnar kept going at him for 10-15 seconds...why? These fighters are hilarious, they choke someone or hurt someone, then go “omg are u okay?”. Gee, what do u think, ur the one who just whooped his ass! Then the whole crowd is cheering, and u leave the ring or cage while theyre there hurt. That’s disturbing. Seriously, u fighters need a psychiatrist.

Not to mention, almost every medical association alive, speaks AGAINST the sport. Almost every doctor, speaks AGAINST the sport. I wonder why.

Its okay for 2 people to step in a ring and beat the **** out of each other, but its not okay for 2 kids in a hallway to fight? And 2 kids in a hallway are fighting for a REASON. Plus, school fights arent as violent as MMA fights. In an MMA or boxing fight, you actually know where to strike your opponent so you knock them out.

What exactly is the benefit of martial arts? Do these guys have better SAT scores than everyone else? Do they have higher IQs? Do they live longer/healthier lives? (That, they dont). So tell me how this "discipline, mental toughness, coordination, balance"...is useful in your life? Please someone tell me, because whenever I ask, I dont get an answer...and actually a few times Ive been kicked out of gyms when I started asking. What, are they hiding something? Peple these days are not capable of being disciplined. BUT, studies have shown that video games can improve mentality, coordinaton, focus. So can fish oil! So can ANY other sport, lol.

Martial Arts is a foreign "sport". Specifically most from Asia, some from Brazil, perhaps some from even the middle east. Okay so heres another thing I dont get about these pro-combat sport idiots. The people who enjoy these sports the most, are usually....yes, country people, rednecks, southerners, people who live in the midwest, hicks. Now correct me if im wrong, but dont THOSE people in particular, despise foreigners??? Everytime i go to the middle of the country, or redneck towns with my bmw, i get looked at like im some sort of freak. These people HATE anything thats foreign, so why on EARTH would they like "martial arts" then, seeing as how its a foreign "sport"??? They hate soccer, hockey, etc. They like martial arts because its NOT about mental toughness, discipline, stamina, etc....they like it because they enjoy FIGHTS. They enjoy watching two morons beat each other senseless.

In the world we live in, shouldnt we be teaching people NOT to fight? 8 years ago this country got attacked, yet 8 years later WE are still beating each other up. Some people say they take it to give themselves control so they don’t bully people…and that’s sad. I have perfect control, and ive never been a bully. And I don’t take martial arts or kickboxing. I did, but ive had perfect control BEFORE that.

Ive read articles, ive spoken to trainers, instructors, and the consensus is…martial arts, boxing, kickboxing are WORTHLESS on the streets. YES, u heard that correctly. I can just see pro-combat sport people shaking now. So why teach this stuff if theyre WORTHLESS in the streets? Because folks, theyre all about pro-fighting, human cockfighting. See, if youre on the streets, youre “off guard”. You don’t know if someone is gonna attack you, so if you get attacked, youre “off guard”, and you lose. Studies have shown that these simple “self defense” classes that last an hour, and show basic techniques to defend yourself in the streets, are MUCH more useful than combat sports. Yes…..the truth hurts, doesn’t it? People really gotta try and get this crap banned. It is absolutely needless, mindless, pointless, senseless, heartless, ruthless, inhumane, unjustified, and pure violence.

Some instructors try to say that fighting is human nature, that even animals do it.....well wow, its surely not MY nature, lol. There are people I dont like, but I have no intention to beat them up. Ive been in this world for a looooong time, and never once needed to "fight". So I have no idea what nature they are talking about, lol. They compare it to the days of Jesus, or the Gladiators in Rome, where people killed each other...and thats sick. Do you REALLY think God approves of two people fighting for no reason whatsoever??? I will fight, if i ABSOLUTELY have to....like if i get attacked on the streets, etc. You can take all the training you want, but if you get attacked by a group of people, you're done. If you're a girl who gets attacked by a guy three times your size, you're done.

Defending yourself, in all seriousness, is common sense. You dont need to take classes to know how to do it. You especially dont need to go to competitions and fight someone who did nothing to you at all. Seriously, WHAT IS the point of that?? Theres a ton of other sports you can do to get fit, balanced, focus, coordination...WITHOUT having to knock someone out, lol. But no, theyd rather do combat sports, cuz they can fight...legally. Because thats all it is folks, people who just want to fight legally. There is no difference between me choking someone out in the ring, and me choking someone out in the streets...but if i do it in the streets, im going to jail. Well actually there IS a difference...in the streets, the guy i knocked out did something to deserve it....but what did that guy in the ring with you do to you?? What, did he steal your girlfriend???

Makes no sense to me. These fighters and pro-combat sport enthusiasts and instructors, need a psychiatrist.

bgeorge's photo
Sun 02/22/09 06:32 AM
well chuck norris knoww what willis is talkin' bout...

awolf1010's photo
Sun 02/22/09 06:40 AM
you got your azz kicked huh......dont be bitter.
study harder....instead of being a whiney azzed know it all.
try paying attention in class.

mmmike's photo
Sun 02/22/09 06:54 AM
Unlucky in love and cant fight sounds like me but I dont wine.

SwimButterfly2009's photo
Sun 02/22/09 07:22 AM

Good writing and mature essay. Glad to see that there are other people in the world who are turned off by the cage-fighting spectacle. Sick entertainment for meaningless lives. I'd say that common sense and preventative actions are far more useful in the street than most martial arts programs. It's one thing to practice punching, kicking and forms; quite the other to react effectively in a situation where surprise generally works against you. Keep up the good message – you are a credit to the Corps!

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sun 02/22/09 09:23 AM
Wow. Another new profile. Another post spouting the same uninformed crap.

Happens about once a month.

It would appear that whoever this person is has a real hard on for martial arts.

Must have lacked the self discipline necessary to make the pursuit of the Martial Arts worthwhile.

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Sun 02/22/09 09:26 AM
I dunno

I didn't read it

too long and too much verbal diarhea

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sun 02/22/09 08:33 PM

I dunno

I didn't read it

too long and too much verbal diarhea


Ya got that right. The whole post really isn't worth a sh!t.

awolf1010's photo
Sun 02/22/09 09:19 PM
studies do show...that while your doing the 3rd or 4th pose.....your going to get knocked the f out!!!

but if you are able to apply this to a real world situation....you may be able to defend yourself...


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Sun 02/22/09 10:11 PM

I dunno

I didn't read it

too long and too much verbal diarhea


About as long as his profile too.

7z3r05's photo
Mon 02/23/09 04:25 AM
whoa i smell a nice guy. a longwinded one at that.

rickfw's photo
Mon 02/23/09 09:09 AM
i took martial arts when i was younger and i did take it just for self defense but after a while the instructor wanted us to start going to public competitions so i dropped out i just wanted to learn self defense not compete with pple