Topic: Goodbye America...
Giocamo's photo
Sun 02/15/09 09:26 AM
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh...for the 50's...:cry:...I give you my friend...Ann Coulter...

It's bad enough when illiterate jurors issue damages awards in the billions of dollars because they don't grasp the difference between a million and a billion. Now it turns out the Democrats don't know the difference between a million and a trillion.
Why not make the "stimulus bill" a kazillion dollars?
All Americans who work for a living, or who plan to work for a living sometime in the next century, are about to be stuck with a trillion-dollar bill to fund yet more oppressive government bureaucracies. Or as I call it, a trillion dollars and change.
The stimulus bill isn't as bad as we had expected -- it's much worse. Instead of merely creating useless, make-work jobs digging ditches -- or "shovel-ready," in the Democrats' felicitous phrase -- the "stimulus" bill will create an endless army of government bureaucrats aggressively intervening in our lives. Instead of digging ditches, American taxpayers will be digging our own graves.
There are hundreds of examples in the 800-page "stimulus" bill, but here are just two.
First, the welfare bureaucrats are coming back.
For half a century, the welfare establishment had the bright idea to pay women to have children out of wedlock. Following the iron laws of economics -- subsidize something, you get more of it; tax it, you get less of it -- the number of children being born out of wedlock skyrocketed.
The 1996 Welfare Reform bill marked the first time any government entitlement had ever been rolled back. Despite liberal howling and foot-stomping, not subsidizing illegitimacy led, like night into day, to less illegitimacy.
Welfare recipients got jobs, as the hard-core unemployables were coaxed away from their TV sets and into the workforce. For the first time in decades, the ever-increasing illegitimacy rate stopped spiraling upward.
As proof that that welfare reform was a smashing success, a few years later, Bill Clinton started claiming full credit for the bill.
Well, that's over. The stimulus bill goes a long way toward repealing the work requirement of the 1996 Republican Welfare Reform bill and rewards states that increase their welfare caseloads by paying unwed mothers to sit home doing nothing.
Second, bureaucrats at Health and Human Services will electronically collect every citizen's complete medical records and determine appropriate medical care.
Judging by the care that the State Department took with private visa records last year, that the Ohio government took with Joe the Plumber's government records, that the Pentagon took with Linda Tripp's employment records in 1998, and that the FBI took with thousands of top secret "raw" background files in President Clinton's first term, the bright side is: We'll finally be able to find out if Bill Clinton has syphilis -- all thanks to the stimulus bill!
HHS bureaucrats will soon be empowered to overrule your doctor. Doctors who don't comply with the government's treatment protocols will be fined. That's right: Instead of your treatment being determined by your doctor, it will be settled on by some narcoleptic half-wit in Washington who couldn't get a job in the private sector.
And a brand-new set of bureaucrats in the newly created office of "National Coordinator of Health Information Technology" will be empowered to cut off treatments that merely prolong life. Sorry, Mom and Pop, Big Brother said it's time to go.
At every other workplace in the nation -- even Wal-Mart! -- workers are being laid off. But no one at any of the bloated government bureaucracies ever need fear receiving a pink slip. All 64,750 employees at the department of Health and Human Services are apparently absolutely crucial to the smooth functioning of the department.
With the stimulus bill, liberals plan to move unfirable government workers into every activity in America, where they will superintend all aspects of our lives.
Also, thanks to the stimulus bill, the private sector will gradually shrivel and die. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the cost of servicing the bill's nearly trillion-dollar debt will shrink the economy within a decade.
Robert Kennedy famously said: "There are those who look at things the way they are and ask, 'Why?' I dream of things that never were and ask, 'Why not?'"
The new liberal version is: There are those who look at things and ask, "Why on earth should the government be paying for that?" I dream of things that never were funded by the government and ask, "Why not?"



nogames39's photo
Sun 02/15/09 11:11 AM
Goodbye... (But this has been a case since 1913. Just because the disaster is more painful in it's final stage, doesn't make it born today).

KerryO's photo
Sun 02/15/09 04:18 PM
Where was Ann Coutler discontent when Saint Ronnie was practicing Keynesian economics? Under his watch, the national debt tripled in just 8 years, going from 900 billion to 2.7 trillion. Yet, you'll hear nary a peep out of neo-cons like Coulter who idolize Reagan.

Of course, Coulter makes a pretty good living being a Far Right polemicist, so what would you expect other than this kind of intellectual dishonesty and double-dealing trash talk?


-Kerry O.

RWMountain's photo
Sun 02/15/09 08:16 PM
This stimulus bill unfortunately does contain a lot of "pork."

That truly is unfortunate for all Americans.

The bill was supposed to be about creating jobs in infrastructure, green industries and shoring up some failing industries to protect the jobs there.

The idea was that creating jobs and saving jobs would help the economy.

It is a true shame that the Democrats added so much Pork to it and that Obama signed it with out line vetoes.

I am truly dissapointed in Obama.

On the other hand... Conservatives have no right to complain as they have spent trillions of dollars on War and Oil subsidies with detrimental effects to our nation.

How much has the Iraq Invasion Cost compared to this stimulus bill?

Even if this stimulus bill does not work out, as it wont, at least it is for OUR country and not to bomb others and offer no bid contracts for billions.

I am just going to continue to pay attention and try to weather the storm of humanity.

RW

Drivinmenutz's photo
Mon 02/16/09 10:15 AM

Goodbye... (But this has been a case since 1913. Just because the disaster is more painful in it's final stage, doesn't make it born today).


drinker drinker

Drivinmenutz's photo
Mon 02/16/09 10:18 AM

This stimulus bill unfortunately does contain a lot of "pork."

That truly is unfortunate for all Americans.

The bill was supposed to be about creating jobs in infrastructure, green industries and shoring up some failing industries to protect the jobs there.

The idea was that creating jobs and saving jobs would help the economy.

It is a true shame that the Democrats added so much Pork to it and that Obama signed it with out line vetoes.

I am truly dissapointed in Obama.

On the other hand... Conservatives have no right to complain as they have spent trillions of dollars on War and Oil subsidies with detrimental effects to our nation.

How much has the Iraq Invasion Cost compared to this stimulus bill?

Even if this stimulus bill does not work out, as it wont, at least it is for OUR country and not to bomb others and offer no bid contracts for billions.

I am just going to continue to pay attention and try to weather the storm of humanity.

RW


That is a very good point. I must say i've never thought about it quite that way before. I guess there is a silver lining.

BTW Conservatives have every right to complain as they never started this war. I truely believe there is a big difference between a conservative, and someone that calls themselves a conservative.

ThomasJB's photo
Mon 02/16/09 11:54 AM
The whole economic crisis came about from the idea that everyone should have everything they've ever wanted, your dream home, the giant suv you had to have to haul all 2 of children around in, that second car, the luxury vacation, big screen tv. Yes everyone should have all of it and by U.S. governments lead you will. All you have to go so deeply in debt that you'll need a third mortgage to make next months credit card payment.

Winx's photo
Mon 02/16/09 03:13 PM

This stimulus bill unfortunately does contain a lot of "pork."

That truly is unfortunate for all Americans.

The bill was supposed to be about creating jobs in infrastructure, green industries and shoring up some failing industries to protect the jobs there.

The idea was that creating jobs and saving jobs would help the economy.

It is a true shame that the Democrats added so much Pork to it and that Obama signed it with out line vetoes.

I am truly dissapointed in Obama.

On the other hand... Conservatives have no right to complain as they have spent trillions of dollars on War and Oil subsidies with detrimental effects to our nation.

How much has the Iraq Invasion Cost compared to this stimulus bill?

Even if this stimulus bill does not work out, as it wont, at least it is for OUR country and not to bomb others and offer no bid contracts for billions.

I am just going to continue to pay attention and try to weather the storm of humanity.

RW


Conservatives added the pork too, didn't they? They both worked on the stimulus package.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Mon 02/16/09 05:19 PM


This stimulus bill unfortunately does contain a lot of "pork."

That truly is unfortunate for all Americans.

The bill was supposed to be about creating jobs in infrastructure, green industries and shoring up some failing industries to protect the jobs there.

The idea was that creating jobs and saving jobs would help the economy.

It is a true shame that the Democrats added so much Pork to it and that Obama signed it with out line vetoes.

I am truly dissapointed in Obama.

On the other hand... Conservatives have no right to complain as they have spent trillions of dollars on War and Oil subsidies with detrimental effects to our nation.

How much has the Iraq Invasion Cost compared to this stimulus bill?

Even if this stimulus bill does not work out, as it wont, at least it is for OUR country and not to bomb others and offer no bid contracts for billions.

I am just going to continue to pay attention and try to weather the storm of humanity.

RW


Conservatives added the pork too, didn't they? They both worked on the stimulus package.


I'm sure they did. My message is the same. The majority of either side obviously doesn't want to do the right thing.


AndrewAV's photo
Mon 02/16/09 05:30 PM


This stimulus bill unfortunately does contain a lot of "pork."

That truly is unfortunate for all Americans.

The bill was supposed to be about creating jobs in infrastructure, green industries and shoring up some failing industries to protect the jobs there.

The idea was that creating jobs and saving jobs would help the economy.

It is a true shame that the Democrats added so much Pork to it and that Obama signed it with out line vetoes.

I am truly dissapointed in Obama.

On the other hand... Conservatives have no right to complain as they have spent trillions of dollars on War and Oil subsidies with detrimental effects to our nation.

How much has the Iraq Invasion Cost compared to this stimulus bill?

Even if this stimulus bill does not work out, as it wont, at least it is for OUR country and not to bomb others and offer no bid contracts for billions.

I am just going to continue to pay attention and try to weather the storm of humanity.

RW


Conservatives added the pork too, didn't they? They both worked on the stimulus package.


The pork came from buying the votes. being that 3 republicans voted for it in total, I don't think their contribution is all that much because I doubt the Democrats would allow pork to benefit those that did not vote for. But yeah, the dude from PA and the other two sold out big time.

nogames39's photo
Mon 02/16/09 05:54 PM
There are no conservatives. Besides, it is a stupid idea, to keep the status quo. There are going to be things that communists will win, and those things need to be reinstated back. What goos is a status quo, unless you win 100% of the time?