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Topic: Investigating Ms Henrietta Hughes
willing2's photo
Thu 02/12/09 09:35 PM
Beings the Mainstream Media hasn't investigated her past, I have found that individuals, with the help of investigators are finding she may be a system player.
I searched, "Follow-up on Henrietta Hughes" and found some interesting articles.
How will you feel if she winds up being, the face the politicians needed to push their agenda?

Winx's photo
Thu 02/12/09 09:52 PM
I don't think about these sort of things until they have been proven to be facts by an unbiased source.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:07 PM

Beings the Mainstream Media hasn't investigated her past, I have found that individuals, with the help of investigators are finding she may be a system player.
I searched, "Follow-up on Henrietta Hughes" and found some interesting articles.
How will you feel if she winds up being, the face the politicians needed to push their agenda?


Obama does not need her face to push an agenda the agenda is already available with all the families of laid of adults, all the business going out of business, all the families tightening their belts out of necessity.

I already told you the only ones who want something like this to be true are the ones with a personal prejudice to prove to themselves.

Any one with eyes can see what is happening to people here in this country right now.

willing2's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:09 PM
Here is one tidbit I found.

Henrietta Hughes: Just a "plain old system worker"?

Via commenter RC, it's sure as hell starting to look like it:

... as WINK News digs deeper into Henrietta Hughes past, details show she may not be telling the truth when it comes to her being homeless.

Hughes told President Obama on Tuesday she's been living in a car and she can't get any help. But WINK News found an agency who says they offered Hughes an apartment not even three weeks ago.

"She lives out of a two seater truck because she desires to. That’s what she choose to do," said Tanya Johnson, Director of We Care Ministries in Fort Myers.

Tanya says she's offered Henrietta Hughes help several times in recent months.

"We have extended a lot of her services to her," said Johnson.

According to Johnson, since December the organization has offered Hughes and her son a place to live... twice. The last time was the weekend of January 20th.

Tanya says the organization also gave Henrietta groceries, clothes and money.

So, on Tuesday when Henrietta told President Obama there's no help for her and she has no place to go, Tanya Johnson got angry.

"It gives me a little sour stomach. Because we stretched our hands out to her," said Johnson. "We have people here in Lee County that just are plain old system workers and know how to work the system. And I feel that's where Henrietta is now in terms of working the system.

Here is the link for
[PDF]Lee county Pocket Guide To Emergency a...

We Care Outreach. 693-7911 – Contact Tanya Johnson. 4231 Desoto Avenue, Fort Myers 33905. 34. Florida Division of Blind Services .... Good Shepherd Ministries. Lions’ Park – next to Lee Memorial Hospital. Serve Hot Meal Friday night 6:00 – 8:30 p.m. .... Free dental care. 3920 Michigan Avenue – Fort Myers 33916 ...

www.leehomeless.org/Downloads/Pocket%20Guide.p..

MsCarmen's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:14 PM
Edited by MsCarmen on Thu 02/12/09 10:15 PM
You know it's funny. Everybody is b!itching and moaning about the state this country is in, and finally, when somebody steps up to the plate to do something about it, it's still not good enough!

For eight years we had to sit back and wait while Bush had his finger up is azz not doing a damn thing and only making this country worse.

I may not agree with everything our government is doing right now, but for God's sake, at least this President is doing something to move forward!


Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:18 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Thu 02/12/09 10:21 PM

Here is one tidbit I found.

Henrietta Hughes: Just a "plain old system worker"?

Via commenter RC, it's sure as hell starting to look like it:

... as WINK News digs deeper into Henrietta Hughes past, details show she may not be telling the truth when it comes to her being homeless.

Hughes told President Obama on Tuesday she's been living in a car and she can't get any help. But WINK News found an agency who says they offered Hughes an apartment not even three weeks ago.

"She lives out of a two seater truck because she desires to. That’s what she choose to do," said Tanya Johnson, Director of We Care Ministries in Fort Myers.

Tanya says she's offered Henrietta Hughes help several times in recent months.

"We have extended a lot of her services to her," said Johnson.

According to Johnson, since December the organization has offered Hughes and her son a place to live... twice. The last time was the weekend of January 20th.

Tanya says the organization also gave Henrietta groceries, clothes and money.

So, on Tuesday when Henrietta told President Obama there's no help for her and she has no place to go, Tanya Johnson got angry.

"It gives me a little sour stomach. Because we stretched our hands out to her," said Johnson. "We have people here in Lee County that just are plain old system workers and know how to work the system. And I feel that's where Henrietta is now in terms of working the system.

Here is the link for
[PDF]Lee county Pocket Guide To Emergency a...

We Care Outreach. 693-7911 – Contact Tanya Johnson. 4231 Desoto Avenue, Fort Myers 33905. 34. Florida Division of Blind Services .... Good Shepherd Ministries. Lions’ Park – next to Lee Memorial Hospital. Serve Hot Meal Friday night 6:00 – 8:30 p.m. .... Free dental care. 3920 Michigan Avenue – Fort Myers 33916 ...

www.leehomeless.org/Downloads/Pocket%20Guide.p..


Okay lets get past the legitimacy of this article which is in bad taste to begin with.

Bad taste is anyone who believes that someone in need is "working the system", those people should not even be doing the job if that is how they feel.

Bad taste is the citizens who constantly want to believe that the poor are poor because they want to be.

Bad taste is any person who looks for a way to dislike those that are different from themselves for unspeakably sick reasons like they are less than said person because of this or that.

Bad taste is what people who claim to be conservatives do and say to further the work of discriminatory groups leave in others mouths every time they start spewing their hatred.

Bad taste is almost everything the conservatives of the last eight years and most of today let come out of their mouths in the name of fiscal conservatism.

Ect....

This is my opinion of course.

What does this one woman have to do with anything anyway? She is one face of hundreds of thousands of Americans getting laid off and having to apply for government help to get by day to day. She is one face with a similar story to many.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:19 PM

You know it's funny. Everybody is b!itching and moaning about the state this country is in, and finally, when somebody steps up to the plate to do something about it, it's still not good enough!

For eight years we had to sit back and wait while Bush had his finger up is azz not doing a damn thing and only making this country worse.

I may not agree with everything our government is doing right now, but for God's sake, at least this President is doing something to move forward!




:thumbsup:

davidben1's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:25 PM
anything that hates scrutiny only hates to be scrutinized itself???

believing in utopian ideas as a guide of good and reality leads to hidden agendas and tyranny???




willing2's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:33 PM

anything that hates scrutiny only hates to be scrutinized itself???

believing in utopian ideas as a guide of good and reality leads to hidden agendas and tyranny???






I am a natural skeptic. I won't just accept it as truth or looking out for Americas best interest.

tngxl65's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:38 PM
I know nothing of this woman or her story. But I do know, having worked with the homeless before, many of them are homeless because they can't be or don't want to be helped. Many (most?) are mentally ill and couldn't hold a job. And frankly, after working with them for the two years that I did, I came to realize that the best that could be done for most of them is to provide them a place to come get a meal and give them some very basic health care and essentials.

The place where I worked also tried to address the mental health issues that are seen in so many of the homeless. But I don't know of a single success story on the mental health side. I'm sure there were some, but I didn't see any.

I still believe in the work that was being done. But the futility of it got to me. Yes, once in a while you came across someone that really was just down on their luck and needed a hand until they got back on their feet. Those people were the ones that kept you coming back. But there were so few of them.

All that being said.... it wouldn't surprise me if the woman in question had been offered help and had refused it... probably because there was some expectation attached to it. I've seen that play out hundreds of times.

davidben1's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:46 PM
any leader of the people must be willing to be poked, probed, and pricked with any question from the people???

not holding leaders to the highest standards is an injustice to any great leader???

to not question allows the gravest of tragedies to be inflicted upon one's one neighbors???

anything that demand blind allegiance is a fool that think itself good???


Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:54 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Thu 02/12/09 10:56 PM

I know nothing of this woman or her story. But I do know, having worked with the homeless before, many of them are homeless because they can't be or don't want to be helped. Many (most?) are mentally ill and couldn't hold a job. And frankly, after working with them for the two years that I did, I came to realize that the best that could be done for most of them is to provide them a place to come get a meal and give them some very basic health care and essentials.

The place where I worked also tried to address the mental health issues that are seen in so many of the homeless. But I don't know of a single success story on the mental health side. I'm sure there were some, but I didn't see any.

I still believe in the work that was being done. But the futility of it got to me. Yes, once in a while you came across someone that really was just down on their luck and needed a hand until they got back on their feet. Those people were the ones that kept you coming back. But there were so few of them.

All that being said.... it wouldn't surprise me if the woman in question had been offered help and had refused it... probably because there was some expectation attached to it. I've seen that play out hundreds of times.


Burn out in the helping fields is understandable but one cannot judge those they help. You are right concerning the mental illness and we must never forget the comfort zone of all humans. You would be amazed at what can become common place for us, everything from living in squalor, living on the streets, living with abuse, living with sexual abuse, etc... That is why no human services worker should ever feel that the people they help do not deserve the help they get even if they see no improvements. It is good that you got out of the field because you had become sour to it.

There are so many different areas that effect these people that we cannot judge them, just help and hope that it really does help. The help provided may not be enough, it may not be what is needed, it may not fit the situation, etc... So the well being is all we can try for and hope for the rest.

Moondark's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:55 PM
TNG is correct in that a lot of assistance comes with required expectations to be met and the people looking for assistance are either unable, or unwilling, to met those expectations.

At least that is an often heard complaint from the people offering assistance programs to people in jail.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/12/09 11:02 PM

TNG is correct in that a lot of assistance comes with required expectations to be met and the people looking for assistance are either unable, or unwilling, to met those expectations.

At least that is an often heard complaint from the people offering assistance programs to people in jail.


You can lead a horse to water........but you cannot make him drink. The fact the help is available is all that can be done. We cannot judge why they turn it down. Timing may not be right, situation may not be right, etc... We cannot know it because we cannot climb inside of them and feel, know, see, everything from where they are in life at that point.

Winx's photo
Thu 02/12/09 11:04 PM
I imagine that there is a different kind of homeless population happening now with all of the home foreclosures.
More families are becoming homeless.

If it happened to me, I would take my child and sleep in the car instead of sleeping at a shelter.

davidben1's photo
Thu 02/12/09 11:08 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Thu 02/12/09 11:10 PM


I know nothing of this woman or her story. But I do know, having worked with the homeless before, many of them are homeless because they can't be or don't want to be helped. Many (most?) are mentally ill and couldn't hold a job. And frankly, after working with them for the two years that I did, I came to realize that the best that could be done for most of them is to provide them a place to come get a meal and give them some very basic health care and essentials.

The place where I worked also tried to address the mental health issues that are seen in so many of the homeless. But I don't know of a single success story on the mental health side. I'm sure there were some, but I didn't see any.

I still believe in the work that was being done. But the futility of it got to me. Yes, once in a while you came across someone that really was just down on their luck and needed a hand until they got back on their feet. Those people were the ones that kept you coming back. But there were so few of them.

All that being said.... it wouldn't surprise me if the woman in question had been offered help and had refused it... probably because there was some expectation attached to it. I've seen that play out hundreds of times.


Burn out in the helping fields is understandable but one cannot judge those they help. You are right concerning the mental illness and we must never forget the comfort zone of all humans. You would be amazed at what can become common place for us, everything from living in squalor, living on the streets, living with abuse, living with sexual abuse, etc... That is why no human services worker should ever feel that the people they help do not deserve the help they get even if they see no improvements. It is good that you got out of the field because you had become sour to it.

There are so many different areas that effect these people that we cannot judge them, just help and hope that it really does help. The help provided may not be enough, it may not be what is needed, it may not fit the situation, etc... So the well being is all we can try for and hope for the rest.



nothing can see the whole of anything until is is able to judge???

where in the world are you coming up with "not to judge"???

one cannot operate in life without judging each thing all day long???

to judge is to make educated decisions based on proven facts???

how is judging one that need help anything more than finding out the true needs of a person!!!

these are like some uptopian demands of others that you make and make no logical sense???


willing2's photo
Thu 02/12/09 11:12 PM
It appears, Ms Hughes along with her son Corey already own property in Lee County.Public records and all taxes are current.

http://www.leeclerk.org/OR/showdetails.aspx?id=5715387&rn=0&pi=0&ref=search
Yes, it is the Lee County Clerks Office.
Document Type: (D) Deed
Modified Date: 8/17/2006 10:08:06 AM
Record Date : 8/9/2006 12:31:30 PM
Grantor: HUGHES HENRIETTA C
Grantee: HUGHES COREY L
Book Type: O
Book / Page: 0 / 0
# of Pages: 2
Consideration: 10.00
Legal:
Legal: L 18 BLK 35 U 9 LEHIGH ACRES

davidben1's photo
Thu 02/12/09 11:14 PM
one only need to rely on hope and faith when there is no judging of facts to determine appropriate actions???

unsanity preside over the court of logic when the preaching of do gooding become as wisdom???

Winx's photo
Thu 02/12/09 11:16 PM
Edited by Winx on Thu 02/12/09 11:16 PM

It appears, Ms Hughes along with her son Corey already own property in Lee County.Public records and all taxes are current.

http://www.leeclerk.org/OR/showdetails.aspx?id=5715387&rn=0&pi=0&ref=search
Yes, it is the Lee County Clerks Office.
Document Type: (D) Deed
Modified Date: 8/17/2006 10:08:06 AM
Record Date : 8/9/2006 12:31:30 PM
Grantor: HUGHES HENRIETTA C
Grantee: HUGHES COREY L
Book Type: O
Book / Page: 0 / 0
# of Pages: 2
Consideration: 10.00
Legal:
Legal: L 18 BLK 35 U 9 LEHIGH ACRES


If I'm reading that correctly, she paid 0 dollars for a piece of land in 2006.



damnitscloudy's photo
Thu 02/12/09 11:17 PM
WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT!? O_o I never heard of this person yet people are mad at her or defending her! rant

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