What do you know about communism? Any experience or just newspapers and history?

Do you know the difference between communism and socialism?

What do you want to know?


As for the differences, here is the only difference there is: Communist has balls to come and take, what a socialist is only salivating about. Other than this, there is none. Both ideas are born by murderers, and carried by dumb followers who believe in something for nothing.

McCarthyism appears to be alive an well.

Can you make a difference between "different" versions of communism?

Socialism is where everyone would share the benefits of industrialization. Workers would do better than in the English system at the time because there were more workers than bosses and the majority would rule. As a purely economic system, socialism is a lousy way to run a large scale economy. Socialism is not a political system, it's a way of distributing goods and services. Socialism is liberal. As Marx says, "democracy is the road to Socialism"


Communism is conservative. Fewer and fewer people have any say in how the economy works.

A common mistake is to confuse Socialism, the economic system, with Communism, the political system. Communists are "socialist" in the same way that Republicans are "compassionate conservatives". That is, they give lip service to ideals they have no intention of practicing.

Communism, or "scientific socialism", has very little to do with Marx. Communism was originally envisioned by Marx and Engels as the last stages of their socialist revolution.


At their ideal implementation, socialism and laissez faire capitalism will be identical as everyone will produce exactly what's needed for exactly who needs it. In practice, both work sometimes in microeconomic conditions but fail miserably when applied to national and international economies. And they fail for the same reason: Human pervserity. Too many people don't like to play fair, and both systems only work when everyone follow the same rules.

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you might want to try knowing a thing or to about them. communism is a political system, while socialism is an economic read my post above

Don't discuss what you know nothing about.

i think you should eat your own words on that one.

if that were the case, these political threads would always be empty

You can do that all they long. Why? Because, they are all the same. All that differs between different versions, is how are they going to murder you.

It is the propaganda, that differs. The idea of communism and socialist is the same: to take forcefully what belongs to you.

Without this crucial element, none of the socialism or communism flavors would ever work. This is the crux, the central element. The removal of private property.

We can spend a day discussing already invented lies of how this central element being achieved is going to do good to people.

I'd rather not. Why? Because, it is like discussing shapes of clouds. There are more shapes possible than can be discussed in lifetime. But a cloud is a cloud is a cloud.

Any time anyone bull****s about communism or socialism, ask one question: what about private property?

They will either lie, meaning they say it will be allowed, but they will construct laws that in fact outlaw private property (such as the current united states).

Or they will tell you outright that the private property will not be tolerated, but then they will try to spice things up by lying how good the life will be without such.

Socialism and communism are the exact same thing, except for the fact that the latter is more honest than the former. Socialism tries to pull this feel-good, crackpot neo-liberal approach to economics but then goes behind the back of the people and works in accordance with the tenets of communism. Suffice to say, there IS no line, and the two are indistinguishable in application.

Also, nogames39 is right. The actual details of the two systems are irrelevant because they are both the political manifestation of murderous control-freaks and mentally ill pigs.

You're right. I lose tolerance in egregious cases, though.

How does it differ from fascism and national socialism?

It only differs in details. The overall goal is the same, and that is the expansion of cradle-to-grave government.

Fascism and national socialism are BRANDS of socialism, however, their emphasis differs from that of traditional communism. Again, the main difference here is that communism is much more honest than Nazism or fascism. In fascism (more accurately identified as corporatism, because it usually revolves around the collectivization of society around private entities), the state plays a role using the labor (or results of that labor) of the individual for the good of the state. The same goes for communism, except there is a difference: private property still allegedly exists in a fascist society, but it is under the direction of the state. In communism, there is no private property, and the state will openly say you own nothing and are not entitled to any results of your own labor.

Therefore, only the semantics are different and cannot be distinguished from one another, as National Socialism/Fascism/Marxist Socialism/Communism are all breeders of tyranny.

Hope this makes sense to those of you in the dark about a lot of this.

Good stuff there war elephant. I would want to add, that each of them ends as a dictatorship or oligarchy. One man or a small group of men control every aspect of the economy, domestic and foreign policy and law.

There isn't much difference between Stalin or Hitler. Both were dictators, one outlived the other, both equally killed millions of people.