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franshade's photo
Tue 02/10/09 11:44 AM

stock market nosediving with all this "good news" especially from the tax evader Treasury head...and now they want to control the census.

Stock market nose dived before he took office - wondering if there will be any resolution?? if so, how?

This is not a him vs. us type of scenario (in my opinion only)

Were we to work together and focus on a common goal - there will still be some that are not satisfied with results.

Can't please all of the people all of the time waving




deepheartwaiting's photo
Tue 02/10/09 11:51 AM


stock market nosediving with all this "good news" especially from the tax evader Treasury head...and now they want to control the census.

Stock market nose dived before he took office - wondering if there will be any resolution?? if so, how?

This is not a him vs. us type of scenario (in my opinion only)

Were we to work together and focus on a common goal - there will still be some that are not satisfied with results.

Can't please all of the people all of the time waving



The problem is the "I won so just deal with it" attitude that he is giving off. Nothing HAD to be done this week without careful deliberation and a bill orginally written by reps and Senators from both sides including some of the junior folks who have great ideas. 4 days of "debate" of $850 billion dollars is less than we would take in deciding which used car to buy.

I vote for the plan that give each taxpayer a credit card that we must spend (not pay down debt with or save) so that the money goes immediately into local businesses and they can hire. There are 3 major things that are wants instead of needs that I am holding off on because I have no idea what is coming with this economy.

franshade's photo
Tue 02/10/09 12:01 PM
The problem is the "I won so just deal with it" attitude that he is giving off. Nothing HAD to be done this week without careful deliberation and a bill orginally written by reps and Senators from both sides including some of the junior folks who have great ideas. 4 days of "debate" of $850 billion dollars is less than we would take in deciding which used car to buy.

I vote for the plan that give each taxpayer a credit card that we must spend (not pay down debt with or save) so that the money goes immediately into local businesses and they can hire. There are 3 major things that are wants instead of needs that I am holding off on because I have no idea what is coming with this economy.


I disagree (but respect your opinion), I don't think he has the attitude you mentioned.

I do believe 'something' has to be done and quickly. Our stock market continues to 'nosedive' and more and more people continue to be unemployed, etc.

To be issued credit cards for spending (not for paying down on debt) also don't agree with. The option on what to do with money(monies) given to us, should be at our discretion not mandated.

Understandably, it takes money to make money (the cycle of economics) but if I have to pay Joe for lending me, helping me, buying for me, something I lacked during these times, that would be my priority, not purchasing material possessions.

Personally I have purchased a vehicle in a couple of hours, didn't take me days to decide. waving


deepheartwaiting's photo
Tue 02/10/09 12:08 PM

The problem is the "I won so just deal with it" attitude that he is giving off. Nothing HAD to be done this week without careful deliberation and a bill orginally written by reps and Senators from both sides including some of the junior folks who have great ideas. 4 days of "debate" of $850 billion dollars is less than we would take in deciding which used car to buy.

I vote for the plan that give each taxpayer a credit card that we must spend (not pay down debt with or save) so that the money goes immediately into local businesses and they can hire. There are 3 major things that are wants instead of needs that I am holding off on because I have no idea what is coming with this economy.


I disagree (but respect your opinion), I don't think he has the attitude you mentioned.

I do believe 'something' has to be done and quickly. Our stock market continues to 'nosedive' and more and more people continue to be unemployed, etc.

To be issued credit cards for spending (not for paying down on debt) also don't agree with. The option on what to do with money(monies) given to us, should be at our discretion not mandated.

Understandably, it takes money to make money (the cycle of economics) but if I have to pay Joe for lending me, helping me, buying for me, something I lacked during these times, that would be my priority, not purchasing material possessions.

Personally I have purchased a vehicle in a couple of hours, didn't take me days to decide. waving



He has actually said "I won" many times in the last two weeks. But more than the president are entrenched politicians who wrote something without any true regard for middle class taxpayers other than a couple of token bits they say they are going to throw our way.

I mentioned the credit card because at least they would not control how it was spent. :o) I would prefer to get some lump that I could either put in savings or against a school loan.

We will see how this all plays out in the next few weeks. I just feel like the government no longer represents or listens to most of the hard-working taxpayers at all.

The good side is that people are stepping back on the living outside of a budget life styles, keeping up with the joneses lifestyles they have been living for the last few years. When I see what young coupld feel they MUST have at the beginning of their marriage compared to how my parents started out, I am astounded.

no photo
Tue 02/10/09 12:11 PM
I agree with everything you've said, Fran. Well said :smile:.

franshade's photo
Tue 02/10/09 12:17 PM
It's not meant personally when he says "he won" biggrin

He is proud that he did in fact win, as I am certain had anyone else won the Presidential race would be.

I guess I am just trying to remain optimistic, things really suck right now for a lot of people, there has to be a way to get out from under and I think were we to just do nothing, that would be exactly what we would get, nothing.


deepheartwaiting's photo
Tue 02/10/09 12:28 PM

It's not meant personally when he says "he won" biggrin

He is proud that he did in fact win, as I am certain had anyone else won the Presidential race would be.

I guess I am just trying to remain optimistic, things really suck right now for a lot of people, there has to be a way to get out from under and I think were we to just do nothing, that would be exactly what we would get, nothing.



I like that we are able to talk without being insulting. Not too many people can do that these days. You write well fran

franshade's photo
Tue 02/10/09 12:31 PM
thank you flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Tue 02/10/09 12:45 PM
Edited by Winx on Tue 02/10/09 12:48 PM



his Iran answer kind of reminded me of Sarah...his eyes kind of went..***blink***blink***blink*blink*...you could almost see the little birdie...circling above his noggin...


It's so nice to see a President think before he speaks.


he's not thinking - he is trying to remember the script that whoever he owes favors to has written for him


Puh-lease,

He's a lawyer and was a Constitutional Law teacher at a University. He knows how to think.



Winx's photo
Tue 02/10/09 12:47 PM
Edited by Winx on Tue 02/10/09 12:50 PM








He's got, and uh, with long silences,(spacing out), in between, down pretty pat. Kinda' like the way a crack-head communicates.


Nope, that's wrong. Crackheads talk fast and don't like to quit talking.

Last night I was listening to him in the car and he talked eloquently as usual. It was informative.

You are partly right.
To a point, they are hyper. Then they crash.
I saw him grasping for the next word, winding up using the same, tired old phrases.

No way, will I bow down before your Savior-in-Chief.


He's a pretty good speaker. Seems like you're grasping at straws when you start picking at his speaking abilities.


A very eloquent speaker indeed.


the first 10 minutes he was using a teleprompter...I can't recall a President ever using a telepromter at a press conference...and then...when the Q & A began...minus the teleprompter...blink...blink...blink...blink...followed by a series of um...um...um...um...laugh


It's called thinking. Do you remember what that was like?laugh


why is it that if we don't buy what he is selling we are considered non-thinkers...By the way in a week we are now talking 2 Trillion dollars in debt!! To be paid for by the Fed who is paid by the treasury who is printing money like it is going out of style so that massive inflation and then depression is on the way!


Excuse me, but I was talking to Gio and he knows that I was joking. See, I put this in there ---->laugh

It's not Obama's fault that we have 2 trillion dollars in debt.



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