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Topic: Okay, How did he do it? (GOD)
Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 02/15/09 08:12 PM
Do you know what dirt is? It is worm sh*t. Therefore, God must be a worm. So Jeannie says, "God must be a worm". Jeannie.....In all your years of searching for Truth, is this all you can come up with? It was your idea. You said: "Dirt contains ALL THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS neccessary for LIFE.... " And it so happens that dirt comes from worms. It is worm waste.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Sun 02/15/09 08:16 PM
God is SPIRIT. Not Logic. Although we may try to LOGICALLY EXPLAIN GOD ... ( and God doesn't even mind us doing that ...cause that is usually how we all begin our journey of seeking after God ).... the ONLY SURE Way TO UNDERSTAND and KNOW GOD.... is thru spirit. Simply because... God IS Spirit.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Sun 02/15/09 08:28 PM
Do you know what dirt is? It is worm sh*t. Therefore, God must be a worm. So Jeannie says, "God must be a worm". Jeannie.....In all your years of searching for Truth, is this all you can come up with? It was your idea. You said: "Dirt contains ALL THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS neccessary for LIFE.... " And it so happens that dirt comes from worms. It is worm waste. No...it's the other way around ,Precious.... dirt does NOT come from worms.... worms come from dirt... as do ALL living things.

SharpShooter10 Joined Tue 11/20/07 Posts: 11271	Sun 02/15/09 08:45 PM
Okay, then lets assume you are right and God made mankind from the mud of the earth. Let's just say for a minute.. that this is a fact. How did God do that? Get down to the nitty gritty on a quantum level or even magick and tell me how you think God did that? No matter how miraculous anything is, there has to be a method or means by which the thing was done. What was the technology that accomplished that feat... LOGICALLY. Remember, it MUST BE LOGICAL in order to make sense. I'm serious about this question. You apparently require logic in order to make sense of information. Where is your logic in the story that God created mankind from the mud? What does that mean to you? How did God do that? I aint touchin' this one, I don't know anyway, I'm not privy to that information, just wanted to say Hey ((JB)) Just now getting my computer set up and running again since moving. So far, Maryland is great

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 02/15/09 08:49 PM
Do you know what dirt is? It is worm sht. Therefore, God must be a worm. So Jeannie says, "God must be a worm". Jeannie.....In all your years of searching for Truth, is this all you can come up with? It was your idea. You said: "Dirt contains ALL THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS neccessary for LIFE.... " And it so happens that dirt comes from worms. It is worm waste. No...it's the other way around ,Precious.... dirt does NOT come from worms.... worms come from dirt... as do ALL living things. This is just not true. I know, I have a bed of worms and I feed them junk and they eat it and they make nice soil when they go potty. Therefore, man is essentially made from worm sht.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Sun 02/15/09 09:00 PM Edited by MorningSong on Sun 02/15/09 09:04 PM
Do you know what dirt is? It is worm sht. Therefore, God must be a worm. So Jeannie says, "God must be a worm". Jeannie.....In all your years of searching for Truth, is this all you can come up with? It was your idea. You said: "Dirt contains ALL THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS neccessary for LIFE.... " And it so happens that dirt comes from worms. It is worm waste. No...it's the other way around ,Precious.... dirt does NOT come from worms.... worms come from dirt... as do ALL living things. This is just not true. I know, I have a bed of worms and I feed them junk and they eat it and they make nice soil when they go potty. Therefore, man is essentially made from worm sht. Jeannie......the worm waste is turning BACK into soil.....Not making or producing soil...... the same way a cow's potty turns back into soil ..... and also enriches the soil, btw( this is why cow patties, for instance , is used for fertilizer... because it FERTILIZES AND ENRICHES THE SOIL)

SharpShooter10 Joined Tue 11/20/07 Posts: 11271	Sun 02/15/09 09:01 PM
And it so happens that dirt comes from worms. It is worm waste. That's a lot of worm chit

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Sun 02/15/09 09:08 PM
And it so happens that dirt comes from worms. It is worm waste. That's a lot of worm chit OK Sharp... IF the dirt came from worms... then where did the WORM COME FROM?????

iamgeorgiagirl Joined Tue 12/04/07 Posts: 1288	Sun 02/15/09 09:28 PM
According to the Holy Scriptures, the angels, human beings, and all nature were created by God. With the words, "In the beginning God created Heaven and earth" (Gen. 1:1), we have the first indication that God created the spiritual world. Here, in contrast to earth, a substantial world, this world of spirits is called Heaven. The angels were already present during the creation of the starry skies, which is evidenced by the words of God spoken to Job, "When the stars were created, all My angels sang praises to Me" (Job 38:7). On the creation of the angels, Saint Gregory the Theologian expresses the following thoughts: "Since for the goodness of God it was not sufficient to be occupied only with the contemplation of Himself, but it was needful that good should extend further and further, so that the number of those who have received grace might be as many as possible (because this is characteristic of the highest Goodness) — therefore, God devised first of all the angelic heavenly powers; and the thought became deed, which was fulfilled by the Word, and perfected by the Spirit … And inasmuch as the first creatures were pleasing to Him, He devised another world, material and visible, the orderly composition of heaven and earth, and that which is between them." Angel in Greek means messenger. This word denotes mainly their relationship to man. They, as our elder brothers, reveal to us the will of God and assist us in reaching salvation. Man, from the beginning of his state in paradise, knew of the existence of the angels. This fact is reflected in many ancient religions. It is difficult for us to comprehend the life of the angels and the world in which they live because they are so different from us. It is known that the angels serve God, carry out His will, and glorify Him. Belonging to the spiritual world, they are usually invisible to us. "When angels, through the will of God, appear to those who are worthy, then they appear not as they are themselves, but in a transformed state, in one that is visible" — explains the blessed John Damascene. In the well-known book of Tobit (Old Testament), the angel who was accompanying Tobit and his son says of himself:"All these days I was visible to you, but I did not eat or drink, and only by your eyes was this imagined" (Tobit 12:19). "Actually," according to John Damascene, "angels are called spiritual and incorporeal only in comparison with us. For in comparison with God all proves to be gross and material. For only the Divinity is truly immaterial and incorporeal." Angels surpass man in all spiritual strength. However, even they, as created beings, bear in themselves the seal of limitation. Being fleshless, they are less dependent than men on space and time. However, only God is omnipotent and omniscient. The Holy Scriptures represent angels either descending from heaven to earth or ascending back to heaven. Angels are created immortal, as is witnessed by the Scriptures, teaching that they cannot die (Luke 20:36). Nevertheless, their immortality is not a property of their nature, nor is it unconditional, but, just as the immortality of our soul, it depends wholly upon God's will and mercy. Angels, as fleshless spirits, are capable of inward self-development to the highest degree. Their intellect is higher than that of man. By their might and power, as the Apostle Peter explains, they surpass all earthly authorities and governments (2 Peter 2:11). Nevertheless, even their exalted attributes have their limits. Scriptures indicate that they do not know the depth of the Essence of God, which is known only to the Spirit of God. (1 Corinthians 2:11 They do not know the future, which is also known only to God (Mark 13:32). Likewise, they do not wholly comprehend the mysteries of redemption into which they wish to penetrate (1 Peter 1:12). They even do not know all of man's thoughts (3 Kings 8:39 [Note: 3 Kings in the Slavonic Bible = 1 Kings KJV]). Finally, they cannot on their own perform miracles without the will of God. The world of the angels is represented in the Sacred Scriptures as being extraordinarily vast. When the prophet Daniel saw God the Father in the form of the "Ancient of Days," he also saw that "A thousand thousands ministered to Him; and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him" (Daniel 7:10). During the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem "a multitude of the heavenly host" extolled His coming to earth (Luke 2:13). Saint Cyril of Jerusalem says the following: "Imagine how numerous is the Roman population; imagine how numerous are other barbarian tribes existing today, and how many of them have died during one hundred years; imagine how many have been buried during a thousand years; imagine all the people, beginning with Adam, to the present day; there is a great multitude of them. But it is yet small in comparison with the angels, of which there are many more! They are the ninety and nine sheep of the parable, but mankind is only one sheep. For according to the extent of universal space, we must reckon the number of its inhabitants. The whole earth inhabited by us is like a point in the midst of heaven and yet contains so great a multitude; what a multitude must the heaven which encircles it contain! And must not the heaven of heavens contain unimaginable numbers? If it is written that `a thousand thousands ministered to Him; and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him,' it is only because the prophet could not express a greater number." In view of such a multitude of angels, it is natural to suppose that in the world of angels, just as in the material world, there are various degrees of perfection and, therefore, various stages or hierarchical degrees of the heavenly powers. Thus, the word of God calls some Angels and some Archangels (1 Thess. 4:16; Jude verse 9). The Orthodox Church, guided by the views of the ancient writers of the Church and Church Fathers, divides the world of the angels into nine choirs or ranks, and these nine into three hierarchies, each hierarchy having three ranks. The first hierarchy consists of those spirits who are closest to God, namely, the Thrones, Cherubim and Seraphim. Within the second, the middle hierarchy, are the Authorities, Dominions and Powers. In the third, which is closer to us, are the Angels, Archangels and Principalities. Thus, the existence of the Angels and Archangels is witnessed by almost every page in the Holy Scriptures. The books of the prophets mention the Cherubim and Seraphim. Cherubim means to be near; hence it means the near ones; Seraphim means fiery, or filled with fire. The names of the other angelic ranks are mentioned by the Apostle Paul in his epistle to the Ephesians, saying that Christ is in the heavens "far above any Principality, and Authority, and Power, and Dominion" (Ephesians 1:21). Besides these angelic ranks, Saint Paul teaches in his epistles to the Colossians that the Son of God created everything visible and invisible,"Thrones, Dominions, or Principalities, or Powers" (Colossians 1:16). Consequently, when we join the Thrones to those four about which the Apostle speaks to the Ephesians, that is, the Principalities, Authorities, Powers and Dominions, there are five ranks; and when to these we add Angels, Archangels, Cherubim and Seraphim, then there are nine angelic ranks. In addition, some Church Fathers expressed the opinion that dividing the angels into nine choirs touched only upon those names that are revealed by the word of God but in no way encompasses other names and choirs of angels that have not been as yet revealed to us. For example, the Apostle John the Theologian mentions in the book of Revelation mysterious creatures and the seven spirits by the throne of God: "Grace be to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is coming, and from the seven spirits who are before His throne" (Apocalypse 1:4). The Apostle Paul in his epistle to the Ephesians writes that Christ resides in heaven far above the enumerated angels and "every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come" (1:21). Thus he hints that in Heaven there are other spiritual creatures whose names are yet not revealed to mankind. In the Holy Scriptures, some angels are called by their own names. For example, the prophet Daniel, the Apostle Jude, and the book of Revelation mention the archangel Michael (Joshua 5:13; Daniel 10:13 and 12:1; Jude verse 9; Revelation 12:7-8). The name Michael in Hebrew means Who is like God? In the Scriptures he is mentioned as the army of God and is depicted as the main fighter against the devil and his servants. Usually he is painted with a flaming sword in hand. The name Gabriel means strength of God. Both the prophet Daniel and the evangelist Luke mention Gabriel (Daniel 8:16, 9:21; Luke 1:19-26). In the Scriptures he is represented as the messenger of God's mysteries. In icons he is painted with a lily in his hand. The Scriptures mention by name three more angels: Raphael — Assistance of God, Uriel — Flame of God, and Salathiel — Prayer book to God (Tobit 3:16 and 12:12-15; 3 Esdras 4:1 and 5:20; 3 Esdras 5:16 [Note: 3 Esdras in the Slavonic Bible = 2 Esdras KJV, or 4 Esdras in Vulgate Appendix]). What are the tasks of the beings of the spiritual world? Evidently they are designated by God to be the most perfect reflections of His greatness and glory, with inseparable participation in His blessedness. If of the visible heavens it is said, "the heavens proclaim the glory of God," then all the more is this the aim of the spiritual heavens. The prophet Isaiah was honored to see "the Lord sitting on the high extolled throne, the hems of His vestments filling the whole temple. Surrounding Him were the Seraphim, each having six wings; with two they covered His face, with two they covered His feet, and they flew with the other two. And they called to each other and said: Holy, Holy, Holy, the Lord Sabaoth! The whole world is filled with His Glory'" (Isaiah 6:1-4; Ezekiel ch. 10). The Fallen Angels Originally God created all angels as benevolent celestial beings. Nevertheless they, like humans, were endowed with a free will and could chose either to obey or oppose God, to opt between good and evil. Some of the angels, headed by Lucifer, one of the closest to God, misused that freedom and rebelled against God. They were expelled from heaven and established their own kingdom — hell. Lucifer, which means bearer of light, was later renamed Satan, which means antagonist. He is also called the devil (which means slanderer), the serpent, and the dragon. The words of the Savior, "I saw Satan, fallen from heaven as a bolt of lightning," refer to this prehistoric event, the rebellion by Lucifer and other angels against God. This is described in the book of Revelation with the following details: "There occurred a war in the heavens. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought against them. However they did not prevail, and there was no room for them in heaven. The great dragon was cast down, that ancient snake, known as devil and satan … and his angels were also cast down with him" (Revelation 12:7-9). From the initial words of chapter 12 of the book of Revelation, where it is said that the dragon drew after him one third of the stars in heaven (Revelation 12:4), some conclude that at that time Lucifer seduced one third of the angels. These fallen angels are called demons. Having become malevolent, the fallen angels try to push men to the path of sin and thus to their damnation. Oddly, the fallen angels themselves fear the kingdom they have created — hell or the abyss. Indeed, when the Savior, healing a person possessed by demons, wanted to send them back to their abyss, they begged Him to allow them instead to enter swine (Luke 8:31). The Savior calls the devil "murderer from the beginning and the father of lies," having in mind that moment in which, taking the form of a snake, he deceived our forbears Adam and Eve to break the commandment of God and by doing so deprived them of everlasting life (Genesis 3:1-6; John 8:44).From that moment on, having the opportunity to influence the thoughts, feelings and acts of man, the devil and his demons endeavor to pitch him deeper and deeper into the mire of sin, into which they themselves have sunk: "He who sins is from the devil, because the devil himself sinned first … Anyone who commits sin is a slave of sin" (1 John 3:8; John 8:34). The presence of evil spirits among us presents a constant danger. That is why the Apostle Peter extols us: "Be sober and watchful, for your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, goes about seeking someone to devour" (1 Peter 5:8). The Apostle Paul expresses the same thoughts on discretion, saying, "Put on the armor of God, so that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities and the powers, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness on high" (Ephesians 6:11-12). From these warnings of the Holy Scriptures, we should remind ourselves that our life is pervaded by a persistent battle for the salvation of our souls. Whether one wants it or not, every human being, from early childhood, is drawn into the battle of choosing between good and evil, between the will of God and the will of demons. The battle between good and evil began even before the creation of the world and will continue until the day of the final Judgment. Actually the battle in heaven is finished, with the complete defeat of evil. Now the site of the battle has been transferred into the world, more precisely into our minds and hearts. As we shall see, the good angels, and in particular our Guardian Angels, actively help us in our battle against evil.

iamgeorgiagirl Joined Tue 12/04/07 Posts: 1288	Sun 02/15/09 09:30 PM
Sorry for the long copy and paste but I thought Jeanniebean or someone might be interested...

Milesoftheusa Joined Fri 10/27/06 Posts: 5122	Sun 02/15/09 09:45 PM
Rev 12 refers to when the Angels and Satan our cast out for good and have a short time. job speaks of Satan going before the throne and accusing him. Jude says that Satan is the accusser of the brethern. Since Yahweh is not partial all the Angels who turn will be cast out with Satan in the Future. Thus Rev 12 says he was mad and went after the woman and could not get to her but went after the Remnant of her seed. Those who come to believe during the 2 witnesses time on earth who the world will hate and Satan is finally allowed to kill in Rev. 11. Then this act gets him thrown out when they rise to heaven.. Blessings...Miles

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Sun 02/15/09 11:04 PM Edited by MorningSong on Sun 02/15/09 11:32 PM
Iamgeorgiagirl.... you wrote: ....Angel in Greek means messenger. This word denotes mainly their relationship to man. They, as our ELDER BROTHERS, reveal..." Sorry, Iamgeorgiagirl..this is Incorrect. Angles are NOT our elder brothers. Mormonism might teach this, however..but this is not scriptural. The website that this info came from , http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/english/angels.htm has some truth ...mixed in with error....as do most websites today on the web, sad to say That's why we have to be careful what we read on the web.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Sun 02/15/09 11:20 PM Edited by MorningSong on Sun 02/15/09 11:35 PM
Not only SEEK God .... but also.... ASK God. not man.... But God. When we ASK God... God Will NEVER Lead Us Astray.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Mon 02/16/09 12:36 AM Edited by MorningSong on Mon 02/16/09 12:40 AM
We already existed in spirit form with God before we were born of flesh we just don't remember being in the spirit world before being born in the flesh (of woman) No one ever notices something that I think is so important...and they assume those days to be 24 hours long instead of probably 1000 years based on today's calendar now too. When the bible talks about the evening and the morning in Genesis here a day is not based on our day length at all. These are pointed out differently in the bible when they refer to when God changed our life expectancy later on. A day and night is 1000 years. This is on the 6th day of creation 6000 years of our years since the first day of creation. Read slowly... 26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Who do you think God was talking to? Us? possibly? Us? We are the ones he was talking to...we just don't remember this spirit life until going back to it... We chose to be born of waters (or woman) then... 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Then in Genesis Chapter 2 God creates flesh man (after all of mankind has already been created and he had rested....this is what a lot of people miss for some reason they are mislead...but flesh man is created after the heavens and the earth were completed after the 7th day not part of the 6th day creation... If you don't believe me read it again.... Genesis chapter 1 & 2 Iamgeorgiagirl....When God said "US" in Genesis chapter one , God was referring to the Godhead(God the Father, God the Word(Jesus), God the Holy Spirit). Also, Iamgeorgiagirl..... man was NOT created after the 7th day . The second chapter of Geneis you are reading , is NOT another creation story... added on to chapter one of Genesis!!! Chapter 2 is ONLY just referring back to chapter one...like a re- telling of the SAME account in Genesis one... all over again.. like a recap of the story told before(like going back and picking up where one left off) .... But again.....Genesis 2 , is NOT a whole other creation story... added on to chapter one!! Just like Matthew Mark, Luke, and John all are referring to the SAME account of Jesus .... same difference.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Mon 02/16/09 12:55 AM Edited by MorningSong on Mon 02/16/09 01:00 AM
When we are born again, we Now have the Holy Spirit to lead and guide us into ALL TRUTH. And IF any of us , have been formerly exposed to some erroneous teaching..... God will NOT leave us in that incorrect teaching.... He will Gently Lead US OUT.....IF we are truly Born of God!!! God Will Always ... show us and teach us and lead us and guide us.... INTO ALL TRUTH!! When man's spirit is BORN AGAIN , the born again spirit of man, WILL BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE TRUTH FROM ERROR.... AND WILL ALSO RECOGNIZE THE HOLY SPIRIT SPEAKING THRU A MINISTER... VERSUS MAN'S FLESH TALKING ONLY!!! One more thing..a born again christian KNOWS he/she is born again.... not just THINKS he is...but KNOWS. Without a shadow of doubt !!! That's why God's Word says, "My Sheep Hear My Voice... and the Voice of a stranger they Will NOT Follow." And IF per chance, some of God's sheep ARE being exposed and listening to erroneous and false teaching.... and being led astray.... quess what.... God WILL lead them out!!! God Will NOT allow his children to STAY in a place, where they are being LED ASTRAY.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Mon 02/16/09 01:31 AM Edited by MorningSong on Mon 02/16/09 02:16 AM
Iamgeorgiagirl....let's just for a minute here, go over the scriptures you shared earlier. You wrote : 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be FRUITFUL, and MULTIPLY, and REPLENISH the earth, and SUBDUE it: and have DOMINION over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and OVER EVERY LIVING THING that moveth upon the earth. Then in Genesis Chapter 2 God creates FLESH man (after ALL OF MANKIND has ALREADY BEEN CREATED and he had rested....this is what a lot of people miss for some reason they are mislead...but flesh man is created AFTER the heavens and the earth were completed after the 7th day not part of the 6th day creation... Ok, Iamgeorgiagirl.... HOW was man ... who according to your interpretation..... was "supposedly " created in Genesis chapter one , as ONLY a spirit man ..and NOT flesh yet.... HOW is it possible for just a spirit form of man.... to be able to be FRUITFUL, MULTIPLY, REPLENISH THE EARTH, and SUBDUE IT.... AND NOT ONLY DO ALL THAT.... BUT TO ALSO have DOMINION over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and OVER EVERY LIVING THING that moveth upon the earth???!!! AS SPIRIT MAN ONLY!! I mean....according to you, man was JUST SPIRIT in chapter one of Genesis....... and was NOT even made FLESH YET, until Genesis chapter 2!! Now....tell me......HOW would JUST a spirit man ...be ABLE to do all this???? Iamgeorgiagirl.... This is an example of scriptures being NOT rightly divided.... and its meaning being COMPLETELY "MISINTERPRETED" ..... and sadly....this kind of stuff gets taught by "teachers" out there.... who are NOT EVEN SPIRIT LED AT ALL.... and then as a result .... lead many astray with their "MISREPRESENTATION" of God's Word!!! (not talking about you here, Precious.... talking about whoever it was, who taught you this crap!!)

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Mon 02/16/09 02:03 AM Edited by MorningSong on Mon 02/16/09 02:28 AM
Actually, I am aware of this so called " teaching" going around, that twists scripture. It's called "Serpent Seed" teaching. Sadly, this teaching twists scripture ..... and is yet another attempt of the enemy, to DISTORT God's Word in these last days.... But IF we Believers spend QUALITY Time in God's Word...and Learn of God's Word.... we will not be so easily swayed , by every wind of docrine that comes along. And sadly .....there are many many false winds of doctrine blowing... and is one of the main tactics the enemy uses... to PREVENT the Glorious TRUTH of the Gospel from going forth and being heard. But even so..... the enemy is already a defeated foe anyway...... because of what Jesus already did on that cross for us all...over 2000 years ago. The Victory has Already been Won.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Mon 02/16/09 05:39 AM Edited by MorningSong on Mon 02/16/09 05:47 AM
O K....for any of you (and you know who you are...cause we have talked before about this on here....) caught up in this "Serpent seed" teaching going around... which is nothing more than an erroneous teaching.... Please Look at this scripture here: Genesis 4:1 which states "And Adam KNEW Eve his wife; and she CONCEIVED, and BORE Cain, and SAID, I HAVE GOTTEN A MAN FROM THE LORD". OK...Right there in scripture , it PLAINLY says that Eve SAID , CAIN is FROM THE LORD..NOT SATAN. BUT FROM THE LORD!! Also, the scripture above says Adam "KNEW" Eve........ the word "Knew" , does NOT have the same meaning as the word, TEMPT or beguile, as the word used , when satan tempted Eve in the garden !!!! And also note this: God MADE ALL THINGS ( man included ) to REPRODUCE AFTER... ITS.. OWN... KIND!!! NOW!! WHEN GOD SAID THIS.... HE MEANT THIS OBVIOUSLY FOR ADAM AND EVE TOO!!! Satan and Eve are NOT of the same Kind!!! So thererfore, Eve could NOT have had sex with satan, and produced Cain!!! CAUSE GOD DOES NOT AND CAN NOT AND WILL NOT EVER EVER EVER GO AGAINST HIS WORD!! Nuff said!!! And I pray any people involved in this erroneous teaching... will now get themselves FREE!!

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 02/16/09 08:26 AM Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 02/16/09 08:28 AM
Iamgeorgiagirl.... you wrote: ....Angel in Greek means messenger. This word denotes mainly their relationship to man. They, as our ELDER BROTHERS, reveal..." Sorry, Iamgeorgiagirl..this is Incorrect. Angles are NOT our elder brothers. Mormonism might teach this, however..but this is not scriptural. The website that this info came from , http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/english/angels.htm has some truth ...mixed in with error....as do most websites today on the web, sad to say That's why we have to be careful what we read on the web. Morningsong, Iamgeorgiagirl simply said that an Angel in Greek means messenger. If some people see them as "elder brothers' that is their right. Just because someone's idea or opinion differs from yours or is not according to your scripture, that does not mean they are "incorrect." What do you think this is, your personal Sunday school class room? It is really a place for people to express their own ideas and knowledge and opinions. You have a right to yours and they have a right to theirs. Unless you can Prove her to be "incorrect" you should not say that she is incorrect. Unless she is in your class room and you are grading her on how well she memorizes what you teach.

iamgeorgiagirl Joined Tue 12/04/07 Posts: 1288	Tue 02/17/09 08:57 PM
Morningsong, It was just a cut and paste to try and document some of what I was saying...I disagree that Genesis 2 is a recount of Genesis 1 but I will not say you are wrong. After all...what do I know?