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Topic: Is confidence arrogance?
RKISIT's photo
Fri 02/06/09 04:32 PM

An arrogant person gives off the idea they're superior to others.
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krupa's photo
Fri 02/06/09 04:43 PM
I am completely arrogant about my confidence.

But Hell, I look down on 90% of the people around me (they just all happen to be short lil people)

and I have to dummy down my converations for 80% of the people who I talk to.

I am sure that the inferior ones think of me as arrogant.

My equals think of me as confident.

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Fri 02/06/09 05:10 PM



Isn't it like arrogance and ignorance related? Like..you gotta be ignorant to be arrogant.


Not necessarily. I know some very intelligent well informed people who are shamelessly arrogant.


Did they become intelligent because they were arrogant or did intelligence made them arrogant?
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I don't know. Its a mystery. laugh laugh

Krimsa's photo
Fri 02/06/09 05:21 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Fri 02/06/09 05:22 PM
krupa said:

and I have to dummy down my converations for 80% of the people who I talk to.


huh laugh Better learn to run that spell checker son, if you want to be a truly narcissistic ass.


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Fri 02/06/09 05:41 PM
Add to that the fact that a good number of ladies tend to mistake arrogance for confidence. It's a major reason why they end dating the "complete jerk".

krupa's photo
Fri 02/06/09 06:18 PM

krupa said:

and I have to dummy down my converations for 80% of the people who I talk to.


huh laugh Better learn to run that spell checker son, if you want to be a truly narcissistic ass.




hehehehe touche'...not my fault you were taught the rong whey too spehll it!

jasonpff's photo
Fri 02/06/09 06:21 PM
you can be confident and humble, not so much if your arrogent. i know im good, even very good at what i do, but i dont get defensive or mad if someone outdoes me.. you see

Krimsa's photo
Fri 02/06/09 06:28 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Fri 02/06/09 06:30 PM
It seems as though "confident" and "arrogant" are a couple of those words that get thrown around. If you like a person, you would be more inclined to describe them as "confident" or "assertive". If you don’t like them or you view them in terms of being your competitor than you are more likely to see them in terms of being "B!tchy" or "arrogant." It happens with women in the workplace all the time.

Atlantis75's photo
Fri 02/06/09 06:28 PM

Add to that the fact that a good number of ladies tend to mistake arrogance for confidence. It's a major reason why they end dating the "complete jerk".


Nah..there is the bad boy factor too. Yeah, many girls just pull for even the real big jerks, even if they know it, so is the saying 'nice guys finish last'. So why is that, I don't know, ask the women. I can be a complete jerk if I want to be and yeah, I dated very hot women while being a jerk, or at least i felt like a jerk and interestingly she was more attracted to me then when i was nice. Go figure.

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Fri 02/06/09 06:38 PM


Add to that the fact that a good number of ladies tend to mistake arrogance for confidence. It's a major reason why they end dating the "complete jerk".


Nah..there is the bad boy factor too. Yeah, many girls just pull for even the real big jerks, even if they know it, so is the saying 'nice guys finish last'. So why is that, I don't know, ask the women. I can be a complete jerk if I want to be and yeah, I dated very hot women while being a jerk, or at least i felt like a jerk and interestingly she was more attracted to me then when i was nice. Go figure.


Well... I'll tell you this- I haven't gotten anywhere doing the "nice guy" schtick. It's because they look upon "nice guys" as pushovers who aren't worth the trouble.

And I've seen a lot more ladies goin' out with jerks than nice guys. The only exceptions are the ones who wanna dress up their wimpy boyfriends to look like Ryan Seacrest or Clay Aiken, who are pretty questionable in their manhood in the first place.

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Fri 02/06/09 06:45 PM
Confidence and arrogance are sometimes the same thing.

Arrogance is the negative presentation of confidence.

Or arrogance is when you are confident you are right, but it turns out you are wrong.


Totage's photo
Fri 02/06/09 06:47 PM

I just read a couple of threads on the pros and cons of stuff... and in the pros there is confidence.... and in the cons, there is arrogance listed.

What's the difference?

How do you know which is confidence and which is arrogance?


Cause I am confident with who I am... and I type my responses in confidence that they are MY responses... and I get called arrogant all the time....

so which is which?????

huh


Confidence is being comfortable with yourself. Arrogance is holding yourself higher than others. There's a big difference in the two.

krupa's photo
Fri 02/06/09 06:49 PM
That's true man...but let's face it...some people are inferior.

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Fri 02/06/09 08:45 PM

Add to that the fact that a good number of ladies tend to mistake arrogance for confidence. It's a major reason why they end dating the "complete jerk".


That's probably true. Sometimes it starts out seeming like confidence, but turns into arrogance pretty quickly.

Citizen_Joe's photo
Fri 02/06/09 09:09 PM
Confidence suggests some humility exists. Arrogance kills humility, but on a lighter note, in the absense of humility, humiliation is sure to follow.

RWMountain's photo
Sat 02/07/09 12:46 AM
Edited by RWMountain on Sat 02/07/09 12:49 AM
This may have already been said. Seems this has been going on for a while.

Intelligent people are very often viewed as arrogant but generally not so by those as intelligent, successful or confident as themselves.

Often is it just a name calling type of thing to justify the short comings of others and attack those more successful and confident than the attackers are.

Instead of class warfare... it is kind of like intellect warfare.

Coinfidence does equal arrogance if your confidence is hollow and you can't back it up.

RW

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