Topic: The pagan community?
Earthchild's photo
Fri 01/30/09 10:10 AM
I consider my views to be closest to those of the pagan religions, more specifically druidism. I feel very connected to the natural world in a very spiritual way. However, I'm not really sure how to get into the pagan community. I feel this is a journey that I can not approach on my own. Is there anyone out there who can possible offer some advice? I've done a bit of reading on my own but I want to experience it. Belong to it.

Jill298's photo
Fri 01/30/09 10:13 AM
come join us flowerforyou
http://mingle2.com/topic/show/191492

TBRich's photo
Fri 01/30/09 10:13 AM
If recall Isaac Bonewits started a Druid Church in Minnesota, you might to google him. I don't know if he is still alive, but he was a good man and funny.

Jill298's photo
Fri 01/30/09 10:14 AM
I've studied some druidism... very interesting indeed.

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Fri 01/30/09 10:19 AM

I consider my views to be closest to those of the pagan religions, more specifically druidism. I feel very connected to the natural world in a very spiritual way. However, I'm not really sure how to get into the pagan community. I feel this is a journey that I can not approach on my own. Is there anyone out there who can possible offer some advice? I've done a bit of reading on my own but I want to experience it. Belong to it.



Welcome! Be Careful Who You Follow because Paganism as with all Religion has a lot of Kooks in it! flowerforyou

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Fri 01/30/09 10:29 AM


Welcome! Be Careful Who You Follow because Paganism as with all Religion has a lot of Kooks in it!

I've seen just as many kooks in Wal Mart this afternoon laugh

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Fri 01/30/09 10:34 AM

I consider my views to be closest to those of the pagan religions, more specifically druidism. I feel very connected to the natural world in a very spiritual way. However, I'm not really sure how to get into the pagan community. I feel this is a journey that I can not approach on my own. Is there anyone out there who can possible offer some advice? I've done a bit of reading on my own but I want to experience it. Belong to it.


What brings you to faith in pagan religions.

Nubby's photo
Fri 01/30/09 10:37 AM
Is it

1Logically consistent
2Empirically adequate
3Experiential relevant

Drago01's photo
Fri 01/30/09 10:52 AM
Wiccans are very naturalistic. They also include Meditation as part of their daily lives. Im sure the follower base is much larger than that of the Druidic faith. At least here in the US. You might give them an Internet Jingle if you are seaching around.

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Fri 01/30/09 11:00 AM



Welcome! Be Careful Who You Follow because Paganism as with all Religion has a lot of Kooks in it!

I've seen just as many kooks in Wal Mart this afternoon laugh



That Just goes without Saying, it's just a Givenlaugh

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Fri 01/30/09 04:05 PM
Since the Druids were actually part of the lost 10 tribes of Israel, why don't you just get into the bible?


Joshua and The Israelites
In Britain and Ireland


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" Every place that the sole of your foot will tread upon I have given you, as I said to Moses." Joshua 1:3

What do the names: Joshua , Jesus , Hesus , Hu Gadarn , Hu the Mighty, Yeshua, have in common? They are all the names given to the same biblical Joshua who took the Israelites into the Promised Land. The eradicating of the knowledge of Joshua and the Israelite colonization of the British Isles has led to the longest enduring Holocaust, throughout Europe, which has not been properly recorded in history. More Israelite blood has been shed over the identity issue than Jewish blood shed during the Second World War. The knowledge of who the druids were is a major key to solving a historic puzzle. The Druidic priesthood was established in Ireland and Britain, by Joshua of the Old Testament.



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Historical Record

Hu Gadarn, the Joshua of the Old Testament, came to Britain in the early to mid 1300's B.C.

"A fragmentary Welsh record, called the Welsh Triad, reads as follows: 'First was the race of the Cymry, who came with Hu Gadarn to Yns Prydain.' Hu came from the 'land of summer' -- a land located somewhere in what later constituted the realm of Constantinople (the capital of the eastern Roman Empire). ...

Who was Hu Gadarn? Gadarn is a Welsh word. It means 'the mighty.' Hu was a short form of the Old Celtic name Hesus... . Hesus is the Celtic -- and also the Spanish -- pronunciation of Jesus. ...

Jesus was merely the Greek form of the Hebrew name Joshua. Hu or Hesus the Mighty was Joshua the Mighty, the great general who led Israel into Palestine. And the Welsh Triad records that in his later years he also settled Israel peaceably in the British Isle. From there, for trading purposes, they spread to the coasts of the continent..." (Compendium of World History, by Herman L. Hoeh, Vol. II, page 49-50, 1969, printed in the U.S.A.)

"The educational system adopted by the Druids is traced to about 1800 B.C. [editors note: should be mid 1300's B.C.] when Hu Gadarn Hysicion (Isaacson), or Hu the Mighty, led the first colony of Cymri into Britain from Defrobane, where Constantinople now stands. In the justly celebrated Welsh Triads, Hu Gadarn is said to have mnemonically systematized the wisdom of the ancients of these people whom he led west from the Summerland.

He was regarded as the personification of intellectual culture and is commemorated in Welsh archaeology for having made poetry the vehicle of memory, and to have been the inventor of the Triads. To him is attributed the founding of Stonehenge, and introduction of several arts including glass-making and writing in Ogham characters. On Hu Gadarn's standard was depicted the Ox; in this possibly may be discovered the origin of the sobriquet, 'John Bull'.

Hu established, among other regulations, that a Gorsedd or Assembly of Druids and Bards must he held on an open, uncovered grass space, in a conspicuous place, in full view and hearing of all the people." (Celt, Druid and Culdee, by Isabel Hill Elder, page 53, The Covenant Publishing Company, London, 1973.)


Druidic History Edited by Rome

Hu Gadarn invented the writing method of Ogham script placed on sticks. Benedictine Monks made sticks with Ogham script and spread them throughout the lands they travelled, centuries later, trying to confuse future historians. The history of Europe was edited and the knowledge of Israelites coming to Britain and Ireland was modified and removed as seen fit by the Catholic monks. The identity of Irish and Scottish ethnic origins was lost to any but astute historians.

"Irish history is the only literature which specifically connects Israel with its past. ... And in Ireland the Catholic monks did their best to make it appear that Ireland was not settled by Hebrews at all, but by Magog! ...

...How Confusion Arose in Irish History

The Domestic Annals were artfully expanded to make it appear that Irish history commenced centuries earlier than it did in fact. The task of the monks was rendered easy by an unusual circumstance. ... Each of these factors made it easy for certain later monks, who followed the Septuagint, to alter and expand the official record." (Compendium of World History, by Herman L. Hoeh, Vol. I, pages 415-417, 1969, printed in the U.S.A.)


"...[they] suspect that these histories have, over the centuries, been doctored by the 'Romanophilic' monks, who copied them as a part of a general policy of putting the ancient Britons in a bad light." (The Holy Kingdom, by Adrian Gilbert, Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett, Corgi Books, 1999, page 213.)

"The fact is, Rome began early to covet Ireland. Once they got possession, it was necessary for them to destroy the influence of Jeremiah." (The Ten Lost Tribes, Rev. Joseph Wild, D.D., 1883, London: Robert Banks, Printer, Racquet Court, Fleet Street, E.C.)

"But if some day the secret archives of the Vatican are opened, new interpretations are conceivable and, above all, new facts may be brought to light." (Sails of Hope, Simon Wiesenthal, MacMillan Publishing Co., Inc, New York, 1973.)


The first church set up outside of Judea, was established by Joseph of Aramathea (Christ's uncle), in Glastonbury, England, about four years after the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ. Joseph of Aramathea was the wealthiest (Jewish) man in the Roman Empire, second only to Caesar. He was a friend of Caesar and owned tin mines in Britain. Joseph's influence took Christianity to Britain, in the first century A.D., long before Christianity flourished in Gentile Asia Minor, under the Apostle Paul.

The Apostles followed their Master's directive to go to the lost sheep of the House of Israel,first. Salvation is of the Jews, first. The tribes of Israel are next, and the Gentiles are sprinkled in, until the Millennial rule of Christ begins. Then, and only then, is the commission to "go ye unto all the world" really fulfilled. Christianity is for Israelites.

In the mind of the Vatican, the year 2000 is to begin the millennial rule of the Vicar of Christ, not Jesus Christ Himself. The year of repentance is to prepare the world for the institution of a new world order, under the influence of the Catholic Church. It is too bad if you are Protestant, even worse if you are Jewish or a Seventh Day Sabbath keeper.

The Significance of Joshua in Britain

What scripture says: " Every place that the sole of your foot will tread upon I have given you, as I said to Moses." Joshua 1:3 Never before has there been a historical link which so dramatically sets the British peoples apart from the rest of the world. The presence of Joshua in Ireland and England, makes the British inheritors of the title: 'a chosen people', of the Bible historical account.

The history of the British Isles can now be rewritten to re-establish the national inheritance of the Celtic and Anglo-Saxon peoples with that of the chosen people of the Bible.


Conclusion

The fact that Joshua was in Britain, is the missing link between the Identity Movement and the British peoples. Wherever Joshua placed his feet , became the soil of the Hebrews, known as Israel. The British Isles are the inherited lands of the Tribe of Ephraim, and a refuge for the Houses of Israel and Judah. Who can deny it? It comes from the mouth of the Almighty God of Israel.



Further reading and research :

Compendium of World History , by Herman L. Hoeh, 1969, Vol. I and II, printed in U.S.A.

The Ten Lost Tribes, Rev. Joseph Wild, D.D., 1883, London: Robert Banks, Printer, Racquet Court, Fleet Street, E.C.


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Thu 02/05/09 05:24 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Thu 02/05/09 05:25 AM
Hi earthchild and welcome! Blessed be. I found this about one very famous Celtic Queen which might be of interest. Also you should come check out our thread in the forum called "Other Religions". It is entitled "Witchcraft and Shamanism" but we discuss anything on your mind. Druids would be an interesting new topic.

Britain has produced many fierce, noble warriors down the ages who have fought to keep Britain free, but there was one formidable lady in history whose name will never be forgotten - Queen Boudica or Boadicea as she is more commonly called.

At the time of the Roman conquest of southern Britain Queen Boudica ruled the Iceni tribe of East Anglia alongside her husband King Prasutagus.

Boudica was a striking looking woman. - "She was very tall, the glance of her eye most fierce; her voice harsh. A great mass of the reddest hair fell down to her hips. Her appearance was terrifying." - Definitely a lady to be noticed!

The trouble started when Prasutagus, hoping to curry favour with the Romans, made the Roman Emperor Nero co-heir with his daughters to his considerable kingdom and wealth. He hoped by this ploy, to keep his kingdom and household free from attack.

But no! Unfortunately the Roman Governor of Britain at that time was Suetonius Paulinus who had other ideas on the subject of lands and property. After Prasutagus's death his lands and household were plundered by the Roman officers and their slaves.

Not content with taking all the property and lands, Suetonius had Prasutagus' widow Boudica publicly flogged and her daughters were raped by Roman slaves!

Other Iceni chiefs suffered in a like manner and their families were treated like slaves.

Not surprisingly these outrages provoked the Iceni, Trinobantes and other tribes to rebel against the Romans.

The Britons at first had great successes. They captured the hated Roman settlement of Camulodunum (Colchester) and the Roman division there was routed, the Imperial agent fleeing to Gaul.

Boudica and her allies gave no quarter in their victories and when Londinium (London) and Verulamium (St. Albans) were stormed, the defenders fled and the towns were sacked and burned! The revolting Britons even desecrated the Roman cemeteries, mutilating statues and breaking tombstones. Some of these mutilated statues can be seen today in Colchester Museum.

Finally Suetonius, who had made a tactical withdrawal (fled) with his troops into relative safety of the Roman military zone, decided to challenge Boudica. He assembled an army of 10,000 regulars and auxiliaries, the backbone of which was made up from the 14th Legion.

The Roman historian Tacitus in his 'Annals of Rome' gives a very vivid account of the final battle, which was fought in the Midlands of England, possibly at place called Mancetter near Nuneaton, in AD61.

Boudica and her daughters drove round in her chariot to all her tribes before the battle, exhorting them to be brave. She cried that she was descended from mighty men but she was fighting as an ordinary person for her lost freedom, her bruised body and outraged daughters. Perhaps as taunt to the men in her ranks, it is said that she asked them to consider: 'Win the battle or perish: that is what I, a woman will do; you men can live on in slavery if that's what you want.'

The Britons attacked crowding in on the Roman defensive line. The order was given and a volley of several thousand heavy Roman javelins was thrown into the advancing Britons, followed quickly by a second volley. The lightly armed Britons must have suffered massive casualties within the first minutes of the battle. The Romans moved in for the kill, attacking in tight formation, stabbing with their short swords.

The Britons now had little chance, with so many of them involved in the battle it is likely that their massed ranks worked against them by restricting their movements so they were unable to use their long swords effectively. To ensure success the Roman cavalry was released which promptly encircled the enemy and began their slaughter from the rear. Seemingly mad with blood lust, Tacitus records that 80,000 Britons; men, women and children, were killed. The Roman losses amounted to 400 dead with a slightly larger number wounded.

Boudica was not killed in the battle but took poison rather than be taken alive by the Romans.

Boudica has secured a special place of her own in British folk history remembered for her courage; The Warrior Queen who fought the might of Rome. And in a way she did get her revenge, as in 1902 a bronze statue of her riding high in her chariot, designed by Thomas Thorneycroft, was placed on the Thames embankment next to the Houses of Parliament in the old Roman capital of Britain, Londinium.