Topic: Distraught Father Kills Wife, 5 Kids, Self
plk1966's photo
Wed 01/28/09 04:48 AM


I have been in this families shoes before and the thought of killing myself or my family has never crossed my mind.

I agree that this man must have had much more deep seeded issues than losing his job.


As for it being fair to layoff both parents, well that is the chance you take when you work for the same company.

Why is it that this situation upset so many but when a factory in a smalltown can close putting the entire town out of business, no one seems to be all upset about thatfrustrated


I blame both parents since it seems they both made the decision. not just the father.


I do agree it is both parents fault but like I said there is more there than just losing their jobs

MahanMahan's photo
Wed 01/28/09 04:59 AM



I have been in this families shoes before and the thought of killing myself or my family has never crossed my mind.

I agree that this man must have had much more deep seeded issues than losing his job.


As for it being fair to layoff both parents, well that is the chance you take when you work for the same company.

Why is it that this situation upset so many but when a factory in a smalltown can close putting the entire town out of business, no one seems to be all upset about thatfrustrated


I blame both parents since it seems they both made the decision. not just the father.


I do agree it is both parents fault but like I said there is more there than just losing their jobs


I blame George Dubbya!

Seakolony's photo
Wed 01/28/09 05:02 AM




I have been in this families shoes before and the thought of killing myself or my family has never crossed my mind.

I agree that this man must have had much more deep seeded issues than losing his job.


As for it being fair to layoff both parents, well that is the chance you take when you work for the same company.

Why is it that this situation upset so many but when a factory in a smalltown can close putting the entire town out of business, no one seems to be all upset about thatfrustrated


I blame both parents since it seems they both made the decision. not just the father.


I do agree it is both parents fault but like I said there is more there than just losing their jobs


I blame George Dubbya!



offtopic mad explode rant this is not a political thread and I am sick of everyone laying everything at his door step, the fault lays with the US government as a whole!!
rant

FearandLoathing's photo
Wed 01/28/09 05:03 AM
Blame the dude that lost his knob and killed his family...no one forced him into that decision. Life is about decision, that is the beauty of this life is we have choices. He just made one hell of a lousy choice.

no photo
Wed 01/28/09 05:05 AM


offtopic mad explode rant this is not a political thread and I am sick of everyone laying everything at his door step, the fault lays with the US government as a whole!!
rant


It's not even our own government's fault entirely, it's the world economy as a whole. It still doesn't absolve him and his wife from making the decision they did. They had choices and the fault lies entirely on their shoulders.

MahanMahan's photo
Wed 01/28/09 05:07 AM





I have been in this families shoes before and the thought of killing myself or my family has never crossed my mind.

I agree that this man must have had much more deep seeded issues than losing his job.


As for it being fair to layoff both parents, well that is the chance you take when you work for the same company.

Why is it that this situation upset so many but when a factory in a smalltown can close putting the entire town out of business, no one seems to be all upset about thatfrustrated


I blame both parents since it seems they both made the decision. not just the father.


I do agree it is both parents fault but like I said there is more there than just losing their jobs


I blame George Dubbya!



offtopic mad explode rant this is not a political thread and I am sick of everyone laying everything at his door step, the fault lays with the US government as a whole!!
rant


IT WAS A JOKE, LADY! HAHAHAHA!
You're so easily irritated. I hope you don't have a shut gun handy.


Seakolony's photo
Wed 01/28/09 05:10 AM






I have been in this families shoes before and the thought of killing myself or my family has never crossed my mind.

I agree that this man must have had much more deep seeded issues than losing his job.


As for it being fair to layoff both parents, well that is the chance you take when you work for the same company.

Why is it that this situation upset so many but when a factory in a smalltown can close putting the entire town out of business, no one seems to be all upset about thatfrustrated


I blame both parents since it seems they both made the decision. not just the father.


I do agree it is both parents fault but like I said there is more there than just losing their jobs


I blame George Dubbya!



offtopic mad explode rant this is not a political thread and I am sick of everyone laying everything at his door step, the fault lays with the US government as a whole!!
rant


IT WAS A JOKE, LADY! HAHAHAHA!
You're so easily irritated. I hope you don't have a shut gun handy.




I dont get that irritated!! LOL :wink: :smile:

But yes I do verbally rise to the occasion and speak my mind!!

MahanMahan's photo
Wed 01/28/09 05:17 AM







I have been in this families shoes before and the thought of killing myself or my family has never crossed my mind.

I agree that this man must have had much more deep seeded issues than losing his job.


As for it being fair to layoff both parents, well that is the chance you take when you work for the same company.

Why is it that this situation upset so many but when a factory in a smalltown can close putting the entire town out of business, no one seems to be all upset about thatfrustrated


I blame both parents since it seems they both made the decision. not just the father.


I do agree it is both parents fault but like I said there is more there than just losing their jobs


I blame George Dubbya!



offtopic mad explode rant this is not a political thread and I am sick of everyone laying everything at his door step, the fault lays with the US government as a whole!!
rant


IT WAS A JOKE, LADY! HAHAHAHA!
You're so easily irritated. I hope you don't have a shut gun handy.




I dont get that irritated!! LOL :wink: :smile:

But yes I do verbally rise to the occasion and speak my mind!!


Anywho, my apologies for butting in to your serious thread with a lame joke!

On a serious note, have they done autopsies yet on the two adults? I have a feeling some substance abuse may have been involved (meth, crack cocaine, ...) Because I know a few people, (couples AND single parents) who've been laid off recently and not one of them has wanted to kill thmeselves or their children.

scoundrel's photo
Wed 01/28/09 05:24 AM
Edited by scoundrel on Wed 01/28/09 05:34 AM

Been there. Been there. Been there.

Got a new life now. bigsmile bigsmile

And it isn't thanks to any President or any bunch of democrats or republicans or television or all of that rolled up together.

They didn't make my problems, and they didn't fix my problems.

The change must be individual, and from within.
drinker drinker IMO

no photo
Wed 01/28/09 05:31 AM
i don't watch news because of bullsh1t like this. my husband told me about it and it absolutely infuriated me!

according to local stories in my area, the parents refused to let the welfare system take care of them and their children so they both agreed to end it all. well, unemployment ALONE on THEIR salaries was probably more than what my family makes WORKING!

i'm sorry but if you can't re-learn to live a different lifestyle with what is given to you (even after financial turmoil) then you've got issues. who the hell does he think he is playing God and ending his family like that!?!?

this brings new meaning to the term spoiled brat.

I was listening to Glenn Beck a few days ago and he had a perfectly good point. Back in the day people lived with a fraction of what people 'need' these days (not taking inflation into consideration). Now a days it's a crisis if you can't afford a CELL PHONE??????

Come on....
I'm pissed at this one.

Citizen_Joe's photo
Wed 01/28/09 06:05 AM

A little more info the mother and the father withdrew the children a week before stating they were moving to Kansas.... The letter also stated that he and his wife were in agreement and they didn't wish to leave their children for someone else to raise.


Falling Down - Michael Douglas X2. I guess even sewer water seeks its own level.

Seakolony's photo
Wed 01/28/09 06:25 AM

i don't watch news because of bullsh1t like this. my husband told me about it and it absolutely infuriated me!

according to local stories in my area, the parents refused to let the welfare system take care of them and their children so they both agreed to end it all. well, unemployment ALONE on THEIR salaries was probably more than what my family makes WORKING!

i'm sorry but if you can't re-learn to live a different lifestyle with what is given to you (even after financial turmoil) then you've got issues. who the hell does he think he is playing God and ending his family like that!?!?

this brings new meaning to the term spoiled brat.

I was listening to Glenn Beck a few days ago and he had a perfectly good point. Back in the day people lived with a fraction of what people 'need' these days (not taking inflation into consideration). Now a days it's a crisis if you can't afford a CELL PHONE??????

Come on....
I'm pissed at this one.


Most definitely agree, and I don't watch news either. This was what popped up when checking my email this morning.... drinker

Lynann's photo
Wed 01/28/09 08:37 AM
Is the father still alive?

Seakolony's photo
Wed 01/28/09 08:59 AM

Is the father still alive?

No

gothope's photo
Wed 01/28/09 09:10 AM

Why is it the company's fault? They didn't create the economy and in all probability, the people who made the decisions didn't know who they were laying off, much less that they were related.

Although it may not be the company's fault for these parents horrifying decision, it can be a companies fault in how they choose or why they choose to lay off employees. There are other options, such as cut back on hours or days you work. I was recently laid off after 7 years as well as 10 other long term employees because our employer chose to ax the higher paid employees. And they know who they choose to let go, and why. The rich will not allow this economy to affect them no matter what. They will not compromise or make any attempt to try to find a equitable solution for the employees they used to claim "were like family".

Lynann's photo
Wed 01/28/09 09:16 AM
Well then...it's a matter to be sorted out elsewhere.

I think there must have been alot more wrong than just the job situation too.

Perhaps the lesson to take from this is to know your neighbors, stay in touch with your friends and family and if you sense something is wrong be proactive.


gothope's photo
Wed 01/28/09 09:19 AM

Well then...it's a matter to be sorted out elsewhere.

I think there must have been alot more wrong than just the job situation too.

Perhaps the lesson to take from this is to know your neighbors, stay in touch with your friends and family and if you sense something is wrong be proactive.



gothope's photo
Wed 01/28/09 09:24 AM
Sorry...just figuring this out. Seriuosly though..you are correct. This situation is not a matter of the economy or layoffs, these parents BOTH had to be derranged. I'd live with family, take charity, work any menial job do whatever and the thought of hurting my kids would never enter my mind. I think they both used the unemployment as an excuse to do what they may have done at another time anyway. And to the individual here who mentioned "spoiled brats". Absolutley!

DTHRomeo's photo
Wed 01/28/09 09:36 AM
"The Irrationality Of Rationality"

Frank, the new CEO had to answer to the board.
The board was getting anxious, and the shareholders were
on a bed, legs in air, ass-cheeks open wide
They were about to get ****ed like it was their first time.
When one makes 20 million, ten thousand people lose.
What keeps that one from swallowing a shotgun?

Dan, the company man, felt loyalty to the corp.
After 16 years of service, and a family to support
He actually started to believe
the weaponry and chemicals were for national defense.
'Cause Danny had a mortgage, and a boss to answer to.
The guilty don't feel guilty, they learn not to.

Helen is living in her car, trying to feed her kids.
She got laid off at work, and her house was repossessed.
It's hard to think clearly when it's 38 degrees.
Desperate people have been known to render desperate deeds.
But when she shot that family and moved into their home,
The paper read she suffered from dementia.

no photo
Wed 01/28/09 03:14 PM
I guess it's too much trouble for a company to know who they hire and who might be husband and wife...

My neighbors are moving out of their first home as I type this post. He was let go. She keeps her job for now, but with out his income from the same company they must now loose their first home after only 3 years. She was also diagnosed with cancer yesterday. They are pretty much a poor working family.

I know Bush is not part of this topic, but I do think that anyone who feels that Bush and his administration didn't 'help' our country to get where it is today is uninformed. That said I would agree this man and his wife have other issues we don't know about.

And this isn't something just happening or to come, it's been happening for a few years now.