Do you think we are the only ones who worry about what happens to us when we die? We wonder if we go to a better place or just accept that nothing happens at all.

We have seen how other mammals worry about dying as they would defend or run for their lives if have to, yet I wonder do they worry about what will happen in their afterlife or wonder even if there is such a thing.

If you say no they don't worry about these things then how can you be so sure?

If you say they do worry then how do you know this?


I wonder sometimes why we humans deem to believe we are the only ones allowed to go to a better place after we pass away and not think that other lifeforms on Earth are not included.

I remember watching one of my favorite movies called "7 days in Tibet" of where a Austrian soldier was ordered to climb the Himalayas to search for some artifacts that Hitler was interested in and ended up in Tibet in the actual palace of where our present Dalai Lama had lived as a child. He then was invited to visit the Dalai Lama and educate him about the lifestyle and what discoveries the western world had discovered. Eventually the Dalai Lama wanted a movie theater and the Austrian soldier (Brad Pitt as the actor who played with a great accent that is as good as mine. lol) was to help build it. As the Austrian soldier was digging the dirt to create a solid ground to plant the theater the helpers stopped helping him because they were harming the worms in the ground.

Buddhists believe in reincarnation and that one can actually can reincarnate into a animal in the next life. So in the end they believe that the worm could have been a recent mother of someone and that one should not harm it or the balance of nature at the process. The Austrian Soldier now better known as a explorer laughed about this for he didn't know how to continue with the project, nevertheless respected the peoples wishes and made sure to not harm the worms while constructing the movie theater to where the Dalai Lama can see what Europe and its history looked like at the time.


Hindus are also believers in not harming animals either and worship many gods that each have animal characteristics in them.

I know for many Christians and its denominations this sounds absurd and unbelievable, but I personally believe that we don't actually know the truth, and should leave it as a option.

but back to the main question

Do you think Animals have a seventh sense or even a eight sense knowing what will happen in the afterlife that we don't know for we only use our five senses today?

Yes. I believe that all animals (and all life forms) have some kind of soul or afterlife. And I believe that they are aware. Some animals even go off to die to be alone. I believe it is some kind of spiritual preparation thing.





And I'm off to bed. Goodnight everybody!

I am.

I suppose if I believed in heaven, I would want there to be animals in heaven as well, though I suspect that might be wishful thinking. I have no clue if animals think of what will happen to them later. i think their instinct to stay alive makes them run for their lives, not the anticipation of dieing.

Of course who the heck knows, I certainly wouldn't know ultimately.

Could there be a slight 1% possiblity that animals know where they will go when they pass away for having a seventh or eighth sense that we as humans don't know about?

I mean maybe mammals know in particular what happens when they pass away, yet don't have the communication skills to tell us.

In otherwords they can sense or feel it, yet can't describe or explain it, yet know for certain what will happen to them in the afterlife.

I mean it doesn't even have to be mammals. It can be reptiles, amphibians, fish, insects, or what have you.

I've heard of some Indians doing that.

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Hmmm, I have had pets that have gone off to die, so they must have some instinct they are going to die. Hell maybe they do know something we don't. Maybe the dogwhisperer could tell us.. LOL

It would be interesting if it is possible one day that someone who studies this can actually find out somehow. Just imagine that we can actually tap the minds of animals to acquire the knowledge they see and perhaps even know for certain what actually happens to us when we pass away.

Sounds idiotic for most people, I know, but nevertheless, a interesting prospect to consider.

If not it would make one great Sci Fi Novel

I think that they fear harm, that is why they run...or else all animals would die without a fight...they have the flight or fight instinct, but no I don't think they think about an afterlife as we do...God made us to think of that only,,,animals I believe were put here by God for us, as entertainment and food...and I do not think they are in heaven per se..maybe there will be animals there for our folly like here on earth when we die...but not sure of this point...maybe if we are lucky we can meet up with our old companion...I guess God is capable of anything...right?

I mean I have mentioned it before about the unusual cat in the hospital who could sense if the patient is going to die a few hours later. If the cat lays down with the patient all of the nurses and doctors would know that the patient isn't going to live much longer.

It was a story that CNN once presented. How true is it, I cannot tell you. Perhaps there is no truth at all to it and perhaps it is very possible that this can happen.

That a cat has somehow the ability to sense a persons death.

So if a cat can sense the death then maybe it can also understand what happens to the afterlife, if there is one to have.

Here is a article on it. There are many actually, but here is one to look at if you like http://uk.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUKN2531239020070725

I have never worried about death, or about what might happen to me after I die.

So I see no reason why animals should worry about it either.

If when I die it's just lights out. Then what's to fear?

I won't be around after that to even KNOW that I've died so it certainly won't be a problem.

The only thing that I might need to 'worry' about is if there IS life after death. Then I might worry about what might happen to me.

But I see no problem there either.

IF we have a creator, why should the creator all of a sudden get peeved with me? I've done nothing wrong.

Of course the people who believe that the Mediterranen idiots were God think I've done plenty wrong because I denounce them as having been too stupid to have spoken for any God.

Yes, I supposed that if I actually believed that our creator is a stupid idiot I might have a reason to be afraid of death.

But why should I believe that God is an idiot? Just because some idiots claim that this is the case?

Sorry. That doesn't frighten me. God can possibly be dumber than me!

It would be impossible for God to be the egotistical pig that men have claimed for God to be.

I can only look within and ask, "What would I do if I were God?".

Well, my answers to that question are extremely compassionate. I am the most forgiving person I know. I've only heard tale of men who were more forgiving than me and they usually ended up getting crucified or some some other horrible thing.

I have absolulety no fear of any angry creator. On the contrary I'm absolutely certian that if there is a creator I will be accepted into Seventh Heaven with open arms.

There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever.

So I have nothing to fear in death.

I would imagine animals feeling the same way.

However, I do know no humans who have reason to fear retribution and punishment because they've done things in this life with purposeful malice and meaningful intent to harm others.

Maybe the only reason I'm not worried about it is because I know that I'm truly innocent. How could I be punished when I've done nothing that deserves punishment?

I mean, sure, there's always the possiblity that the creator of this universe is unjust, and cruel.

But I don't believe it. And therefore I don't worry about it. I am totally at peace with my existence.

I can only imagine that most animals feel the same way.

But that's just a guess on my part.

Instead of asking if animals worry about death, maybe you should ask if they feel guilt?

Are some animals as nasty as some humans? Do some animals knowing hurt other animals for motives other than pure survival? And is that an evil act, or just an innocent instinct?

I know that my cat is always killing mice, chipmunks, birds, and even a small rabit or squirrel on occassion. And he NEVER eats them. He doesn't need to kill for food, I keep that cat so over-fed it's a miracle that he can even catch wild animals as overweight as he is.


But is he evil?

Does he kill with a vengence?

Or does he just respond to instinct and not even realize that he's taking the life of other animals?

What constitutes 'evil'. Where is the line drawn where it becomes a knowingly wrongful act?

When is murder wrong? And when is it acceptable?

The men who wrote the Bible claim that it's not only cool to murder heathens, but God told them that it's their DUTY!

When is murder cool?

And when is it a horrific act of evil?

Am I a murderer by eating meat and I don't even realize it?

Jesus ate fish, so I guess I'm cleared with the Bible.

Christians eat meat all the time so they don't mind murdering animals.

I honestly don't know the answer to that question. I only know that I was brought up in a society that has a hamburger joint on every corner, and a meat market in every grocery store.

I've also been taught by the great minds of science and nature that the world has always been dog-eat-dog since life first began to evolve.

So I don't know where I stand on that to be perfectly honest about. I just toss my hands up in the air and plead innocence by poor mentoring.

What else can I say? If I had designed the universe I think I would have made a very sharp distinction between plants and animals and even made it impossible to disgest animals flesh. Then it would be an issue.

But then I'm easy.

If I were God the world would be a fruitcake, and everything would be edible. Except living things of course.

Kind of like one of those story book forests where the houses are made of gingerbread and the streets are paved with hard tack candy and trees sprout Peppermint Patties for leaves.

Damn, I'm getting hungry.

I love Hansel and Gretel and the wicked witch who wanted to fatten them up to eat

Always wanted to own a actual Gingerbread House that is a bakery in the marketplace of Vienna also, but it will remain as a dream though

I throw my hands up also. No clue why some things are the way they are. In the end I always believed in "Don't do that what you don't want done to you." Seems to stop people dead on their tracks each time to contemplate on this. It also makes one realize that what they once enjoyed isn't so much enjoyed if it would be done to them. Of course a cat doesn't give a rat's ass about that term

So yes my hands are thrown up in the air and I am off to have some Austrian Chocolate with marzipan filling in it. They are called Mozart Kugeln. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozartkugel

Abracadabra said:



Animals dont. We sort of began to touch this topic on another thread. The primary difference between a human brain and that of a primate has to do with the human capacity to think in terms of abstract thought and extrapolation into the future. Animals are incapable of that for the most part. Thats not to say that they dont remember. Anyone who owns cats knows that they will bother you to be feed them at certain times in the day because they have grown accustomed to being fed at that particular time of day. They know they are hungry and that point in the day has arrived. However animals for the most part are in the "here and now." They dont sit around worrying about death like humans will do and trying to come up with absurd explanations to offset that fear. For one thing, they do not possess the leisure time for such nonsense in their natural habitats or they would be eaten by predators while contemplating death and their purpose on earth.

My cats do the same thing where they will catch a small animal, a squirrel or what not and then play with it and torture for sport. They also will attempt to bring the prey to me as a "gift." Sometimes its not totally dead yet and it is quite awful. In this manner I feel strongly that it is based in instinct. They are trying to feed you as they would their kittens. This is also how they will instruct younger cats in hunting preparation. A mother cat will show her kittens how to hunt. Who knows though. Maybe cats are sadistic. I dont think they feel any guilt over it.



According to the bible. that would be when someone refuses to believe in the same invisible man as you.

Well the bible says they are in heaven with us...

I know there are many who hate the bible (or think it is BS or whatever)

but...that's what it says...
I believe they are in the afterfleshlife as well as this one.

There are more different kinds of animals in the afterlife than there are on planet Earth.

Every animal you can imagine, inlcluding unicorns, friendly or not so friendly dragons, pixies, faeries and leprechauns.

Even the dreaded Draconians.

But it's not just in the afterlife.

They exist in the beforelife as well.

And even the duringlife. They just living on different planets is all.

Ask Jeanniebeanie. I think she's setting up an astral travel agency.

I've been to the afterlife before this life and owl be in the beforelife after this one.

There is rainbow bridge.

"The Rainbow Bridge is a place often referred to by people whose pets have died. It is the theme of a work of poetic prose written some time between 1980 and 1992, which has gained wide popularity amongst animal lovers who have lost a pet."

Its animal heaven basically but when you die, you have to then claim your pets and take care of them.

worrying causes wrinkles.

Yes it does!








Laughter does too though!

Abra we had to be friends before...