No no no. I didn't say I didn't have a car, or job or money. You make it sound as if there isn't men out there looking for the same thing us, women are getting accused of looking for. Which some women do look for that but not ALL women.

Listen, sweetie....if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, chances are pretty good it's probably a duck.

I don't care how much money a guy makes, as long as he can live within his means.
I am not ashamed to admit I don't want to support someone who isn't willing to contribute. I don't believe cash is the only contribution either, but "unconditional love" dosn't get the laundry done or pay the bills. Everyone has to meet responsabilities.

I know the feelings of the OP. I live like that myself. My needs are met. My wants are few. I live by faith. I help others. I can't generalize on the gold digger platform but I have dated others who's wants exceed their needs. But knowing me better they realize I'm not that way. Hey, we would all like better in our lives. But right now we should be counting our blessings for what we have. Just my opinion. And I think we have all dated those who have made declarations of what they would like- nice person, communicative, honest. Just to find out they were the biggest walking contradiction we've ever experienced and that's really not what they wanted and that they had ulterior motives. Sad but true.

And so say all of us.

SO LETS HAVE JUST SEE WHAT TYPE IS THE MAJORITY, lOVE OF MONEY,MATERIAL AND SELF BENIFITING OR UNCONDITIONALLY LOVING.
{ALL WE WILL HAVE TO DO IS READ THE REPLYS TO THIS POST.}


Oh puh leze. Do you REALLY think that the vast majority of the women who are material oriented are actually going to ADMIT to it on a dating site???

You have got to be kidding.
No I am not kidding read them for yourself just how many ask for certain incomes or the travel ( those 2 are the biggest) or to be able to go out to dinner and movies every week should I continue Its in what they say they like and most times they sayb how ofteten they like to do things.. Its ridulus . After they get divorced they gave up their lives for a man to be his wife and raise their kids . Now the kids are grown and gone they want all they gave up.. Gee maybe they should of thought about that before having kids?
yes... its that way often.

Wow! I'm kinda dismayed at the view some of the guys have of us women and the true bitterness I can almost feel in the some of your words.

So we're either money-hungry, lookin for a sugar daddy to take care of us and/or kids, lookin to see how we benefit.... or we're liars?

What's the point then if you all already have your minds made up about us?

I'm sorry for the experiences that made you feel the way you do, but I guess at this point saying we're not all like that is a moot point.

Makes me wonder why I'm even here.

*shakes head...walks out*

It's often easier to blame someone else, than have to do the work on yourself.....

No offense intended, Robbi, but like I've said several times in the past....when it's all you've been repeatedly shown, you tend to see the pattern. Granted, I'll admit not all women may be this way, I'm just speaking from my own personal experience. As a result, it's really no wonder how a person can become rather jaded.

Or it could be geography, social setting, economy, status, etc. I've worked on myself and came pretty damn far from what I used to be, but I'm not going to be the only one pulling 100% for a relationship.

Not that I blamed anyone, but just noting the flaws in that shady theory that I get tired of bloody hearing all the time.

We've all had bad experiences....this thread just makes me wanna cry. It's just so sad.

That is soooo wrong. I numbered them to make my reply easier.

Me:
1) Could care less.
2) No.
3) Already have home.
4) No.
5) Doesn't matter.
6) Yes!!!

May I ask what was the common denominator in these past bad experiences? And repeatedly shown the same behaviours...what was the common denominator there?


you, perhaps?


just some food for thought... if one continues to see the world through distorted lenses..(jaded) how is it possible to get a different veiw, other than clear the filters/lenses?

Again...common denominator can be a number of things such as but not limited too, geography, social setting, economy, status...quit using such a vague patsy.

Bah hahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The base common denominator, after taking away ALL OUTSIDE contributors....is still you...

and Mr Music is not a vague patsy.... you may be... but only you know that!!!

Yep. You get what you think about. If you believe it and if you think about it, your subconscious mind will alert your attention to every single gold digger that comes within your view. That is because your subconscious mind thinks that is what you want and expect so it is on the look out for just that in order to give you what you want.

Law of attraction.

Leaving the materialism out of threads helps alot in this area, and is really only a secondary consideration.

It is a vague patsy, a common denominator is something that is common between each relationship...which can be, geography (this is location), economy (still hasn't changed), social setting (club, bar, nightclub, etc.), status (who's rich, who's poor)...I'm happy with myself and don't care to change myself for you or anyone else for that matter, I don't live my life to please others and have changed my life for the better already (something you won't know because your rather avid with assumption and won't bother to find out).

So your little common denominator theory is blown to the wind and the only way you can substantiate it is by saying "take all the bases away, it is still you"...if by bases you mean "supporting part" which can as well be you, me, or anyone else for that matter. It is a vague patsy.

You may call it what you wish, it makes no difference to me. I have no problem admitting that some of the blame may lie on me. By the same token, I'd rather be alone and wonder about what might've been, while still knowing whatwill be, because I know exactly what to expect of myself. Perhaps someday, some crafty lady will change that opinion for me, but I find that possibility highly unlikely, for I don't believe such a lady exists. For any that may be willing to try their luck, don't feel bad if it doesn't work. You're in plenty of company.

This is not to say that I think of myself as "all that and a bag o' chips", it's just that I know the qualities, traits, characteristics, etc. that I look for in a woman. My standards are high, but I won't apologize for that, nor will I compromise. I've done that before. If that makes me an asshole, then so be it, but I still come out on top, because I don't have to answer to anybody for it.

My views on marriage are more traditional, in a marriage should they chose to have children.. I believe the wife should stay at home with them, until they are in school, provided one income allows this
if it means that she becomes financially dependent then so be it, so long as she fulfills her role as wife and mother there shouldn't be a problem...now if she gets lazy or resentful about staying at home.. then something has to change...and once the child(ren) are school age I believe she should get a job

However this is marriage, not a relationship..relationships do not imply the same level of commitment...and each should be independent of their own, but this also implies that men would have to cook clean and do laundry, at the vary least their own because the households are seperate